The 7670 isn't a SI GPU, sorry that doesn't stack up for me.
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The 7670 isn't a SI GPU, sorry that doesn't stack up for me.
In 2012, yes, that might be fine. Do you really think that by the middle of PS4's lifespan people won't be wishing they added more vram? Games will get better and require more resources, 1GB of vram will prove to be a bottleneck at some point (which is always the case with gaming, but the question is if it will come to soon).1gb VRAM is more than enough for 1080P and some nice AA on PC's, don't know why you think that's not enough for consoles.
If this is true, don't expect true 1080p games next-gen, either.
That's more than enough for consoles.
Very good step up from PS3 specs if true, especially on the GPU side.
Yeah yeah, I remember people saying the same thing about PS3's main memory, and then a couple years later everyone was wishing they at least put another 256-512MB in. That's all I'm saying; what seems more than practical now may prove to look like an oversight in just a couple short years.4GB is a logical choice right now for a machine that really has to run one intensive application at a time. What do you think they'd use to fill 8GB of RAM with? Would you want to wait 5 minutes for the game to load until that much RAM is filled up with data?
They're probably describing development hardware. There's no way that any console will have a literal desktop GPU in there anyway.The 7670 isn't a SI GPU, sorry that doesn't stack up for me.
Aaand my expectations for next generation consoles have plummeted.
Oh well, there will always be iPad 5 in 2014.
PS4 and Xbox Next specs are sounding pretty underwhelming. Looks like Wii U wont be that left behind as a lot of folks think it will be. This could be another PS2, Xbox and GCN generation. 3 major consoles with comparible specs.
They're probably describing development hardware. There's no way that any console will have a literal desktop GPU in there anyway.
PS4 and Xbox Next specs are sounding pretty underwhelming. Looks like Wii U wont be that left behind as a lot of folks think it will be. This could be another PS2, Xbox and GCN generation. 3 major consoles with comparible specs.
Can the APU GPU be used for non-graphics work ? If so, it would address one of my concerns, which is to handle natural input while doing heavy graphics work.
lol talk about ignorance. Do you even read gaming news? A couple of devs saying that WiiU is bellow PS360, some on par, some sligthyl better. In short WiiU is current gen console.
No matter what you think of nexbox and PS4 if rumors are true, they are still going to be next gen devices, unlike wiiU. Of course in therms of power.
Ignorance? Yea lets talk about ignorance. For every dev that says that Wii U specs are below ps360, i can find you a dev that says otherwise. Dont try and throw the ignorance crap at me when all you seem to be doing is selective reading.
What if they are both the same and the MicrosoftSony and SonyMicrosoft sites were for that.I thought 720 did
Well then I encourage them to make more PC exclusive games.Developers would disagree vigorously with you.
If they do fine with the shitty specs of the current consoles then they'll do fine with these specs.In 2012, yes, that might be fine. Do you really think that by the middle of PS4's lifespan people won't be wishing they added more vram? Games will get better and require more resources, 1GB of vram will prove to be a bottleneck at some point (which is always the case with gaming, but the question is if it will come to soon).
then I recommend you reread entire comment, not just first sentence.
Yeah, was it whole 2 times more powerful? It was so long ago it's hard to rememberAside from texel and pixel rate, a 6670 is pretty close to a 9800GT in terms of performance. That alone should give you an idea of how much more powerful that card is compared to current-gen consoles. A 6670/7670 also uses a lot less power than the 9800GT.
If this is true (speaking of relative performance of the next-gen consoles), then it might be closer than PS2/GCN/Xbox.
lol talk about ignorance. Do you even read gaming news? A couple of devs saying that WiiU is bellow PS360, some on par, some sligthyl better. In short WiiU is current gen console.
No matter what you think of nexbox and PS4 if rumors are true, they are still going to be next gen devices, unlike wiiU. Of course in therms of power.
So we have gone from Wii U being 2-4x as powerful as Xbox 360 to it being less powerful than Xbox 360 and PS3 to PS4 being more powerful than Xbox 720 to PS4 being much less powerful than Xbox 720 to PS4 being about as powerful as Xbox 720.
Got it.
So giving the PS4 8GB of main ram and 2-4GB of vram is going to make it $500? Really?It's this or it's a $500 console.
They're probably describing development hardware. There's no way that any console will have a literal desktop GPU in there anyway.
Actually, if this rumor is true and early Wii U rumors are true, Wii U and PS4 would be nearly indistinguishable in term of power.lol talk about ignorance. Do you even read gaming news? A couple of devs saying that WiiU is bellow PS360, some on par, some sligthyl better. In short WiiU is current gen console.
No matter what you think of nexbox and PS4 if rumors are true, they are still going to be next gen devices, unlike wiiU. Of course in therms of power.
Joke post?"Up to" 1GB of VRAM is disappointing (to say the least) for a product that's being developed in 2012...
If the VRAM is that low, what's the main memory going to be? 3GB? LOL. Come on Sony, RAM is cheap... if last gen taught MS and Sony anything it should be that you can never have enough memory, and unlike a leet CPU (which Orbis may not even have, thus making it all the more inexpensive), it really does not cost much to add more. Go into next gen with what seems like a reasonable amount (i.e. 8-16GB main, 2-4GB VRAM), because by the end of its lifespan, it won't be anything.
Going with 2 or 3GB of main memory, for example, would be about as bad as giving PS3, say, 96MB of main memory last gen... it's just not kosher.
Right on spot.So we have gone from Wii U being 2-4x as powerful as Xbox 360 to it being less powerful than Xbox 360 and PS3 to PS4 being more powerful than Xbox 720 to PS4 being much less powerful than Xbox 720 to PS4 being about as powerful as Xbox 720.
Got it.
LOL noWith the 7670, im sure it'll operate fast enough in crossfire to at least run something along the lines of Samaritan, or you can use the 6550HD to run PhysX or AI Scripts.
LOL noMy question is whether the APU will be enough to 'emulate' Cell.
And I STILL don't get the proposed benefit of asymetrical dual-gpus. Not really sure what the attraction would be for Sony or MS with this kind of set up.
What's the closes SI GPU to a 6670 in performance?If they are then the 7670 makes no sense either. It's a modern product yet based on an older architecture. A dev kit based on a 7670 would be a recently produced piece of hardware, if a change in development hardware happened so recently then why not switch to a SI GPU at that point?
Heck, the 7670 is just a rebadged 6670 for all intents and purposes, why would a rebadged card ever be used in a dev kit?
Sony Steamstation, basically confirmed.
Its just rumors why are yall taking so seriously like its concrete info lol.
So giving the PS4 8GB of main ram and 2-4GB of vram is going to make it $500? Really?
RAM is so cheap today it's ridiculous... might as well take advantage.
the APU alone would deliver a better experience than current-gen consoles. IIRC, the APU kicks the shit out of the 360+GPU.
With the 7670, im sure it'll operate fast enough in crossfire to at least run something along the lines of Samaritan, or you can use the 6550HD to run PhysX or AI Scripts.
My question is whether the APU will be enough to 'emulate' Cell.
There is no SI chip available that isn't way more powerful than the Turks chip yet. If this is the first of targets they have, they have to match the power somehow. The GPU could be replaced whenever smaller SI chips are available, just like that Xbox Next GPU.If the target was SI, though, why not...just put a SI in there? It's not something they have to try and emulate.
Why not? They're basically using the same kind of AMD APU you can find on newegg for $179 with slightly better graphics. Next gen consoles are basically looking like mini PC's at this point.Yes.
Console RAM is very different from PC RAM dude. Did you really think that they'd push 8gb of
B-brand $49 RAM sticks in the PS4 and go with it?
Better that than having them both enabled in crossfire, so they make the game run slower than the dedicated GPU alone (I'm still not sure if I'm reading Anad's charts correctly on this, because it's bewildering if true)Would it make sense if the lesser gpu were used to drive the display of a tablet controller?
*shudder
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