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IGN: "[Wii] runs a distant second to 360 in annual profits"
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mario ate my burger
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CTLance said:I suggest sexy lingerie.
Sorry, I know it was bad.
I lol'd
John Dunbar
correct about everything
i have a wii and xbox 360 and haven't turned either of them on since punch-out!! what do i win?
You know, I love Nintendo and hate them at times, but dear god here's hoping they will destroy everything during the holidays. Fun times with all the tearfull articles from journalists and analysts: "Bu-bu-but the games, the systems! The pricecuts and new models!!! It doesn't make any sense!!!"
Souldriver
Member
syllogism said:
Jason Marcus from the Wall Street Journal said:
I could go on to make it look like a WSJ article. No matter how you rewrite the article changing the companies while leaving the basic content the same, it's just retarded fanboyism (and factually wrong), and it would get called out on in every single serious magazine/news paper/website.
Also, I don't see anyone being mad in this thread. It's more a head shake in disbelief or a laugh.
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
I'm growing tired of the articles from butthurt fanboys stemming from the fact that Nintendo brought in the casual market. I think it's pathetic that some "hardcore" fans seem to be offended by that.
Edit: Just noticed in the article that the author gave his own game ratio :lol :lol :lol
Edit: Just noticed in the article that the author gave his own game ratio :lol :lol :lol
Souldriver
Member
It would get criticized no matter where it's from. In a way every editorial is made to create discussion. So why are you implying we are a bunch of crybabies who need to shut up?syllogism said:
(Edit: "called out" is indeed the wrong word. I'm not a native english speaker and always thought it just meant "being pointed out about lies", but it means the editor should respond to the criticisms.)
Souldriver said:
Excellent article change there, really puts it in to perspective. If this were any other industry people would be calling the guy a failure and he'd probably be fired, but places like IGN have no journalistic integrity anyway, so it doesn't really matter.
gkrykewy said:
It's hard to continue after you see a journalist write that he purposefully publishes things he thinks are untrue in order to get a reaction from readers. It's not as if these are The Things They Carried sorts of untruths that exist to convey a deeper emotional or intellectual truth, the guy says things to annoy fanboys.
Conrad Link
Member
I almost hope Nintendo stays pwning in first place forever just so the butthurtness can continue. :lol
Has anyone else detected a sudden attack on the Wii lately with this kinda stuff? Have zomg sales dipped or something (I don't follow sales really)? The common defense use to be just to pretend it didn't even exist, the blocked ears "lalala I can't hear you" method.
Has anyone else detected a sudden attack on the Wii lately with this kinda stuff? Have zomg sales dipped or something (I don't follow sales really)? The common defense use to be just to pretend it didn't even exist, the blocked ears "lalala I can't hear you" method.
RurouniZel
Asks questions so Ezalc doesn't have to
I honestly tried to make it through the entire article, I got to the point with his own game ratio and had to stop. Hyperbole at its finest.
VGChampion
Member
I sometimes feel I'm the only one who doesn't get the hype around Natal. I'm not looking forward to it at all. I would much rather have a controller ala the Wii Remote or Sony's wands. I played with Eye Toy and while it was fun for awhile, it didn't replace my gaming controllers.
Right....
I can't believe I kept forgetting to cancel my subscription to these bozo's. I hate hate hate reoccurring billing. I think I had them for something like 4 years before I remembered to cancel on time. I think I used the insider stuff only for about a month.
Right....
I can't believe I kept forgetting to cancel my subscription to these bozo's. I hate hate hate reoccurring billing. I think I had them for something like 4 years before I remembered to cancel on time. I think I used the insider stuff only for about a month.
Sho_Nuff82
Member
Wow at the reactions on the first page. Aside from the goof about the 360's profits, its actually a very positive article about the Wii if you read the whole thing.
And I agree with his point about NSMB.
And I agree with his point about NSMB.
SamBishop said:
Sam the article is rehashed, juvenile and poorly researched. It is that simple. You can come here all you like and attempt to discredit the posters in this thread but you are only sharing the same egg on your face as the author of this tripe.
Basically, if you want your site to have some respect then stop hiring console jockeys like Rus. Otherwise, carry on poking fun at teenagers on your message board but accept the criticism and scorn it deserves in good grace.
You reap what you sow.
Btw, did anyone else get the impression that Matt may not have been shaking his head for the reasons Rus thought? After reading both those articles of his and having him come up and ask me a loaded, silly question like he did, I'd most likely be shaking my head as well.
Souldriver said:
Honestly? Yeah, because he does. It's not a fanboy rant, it's someone who has, by their own admission (sorry, don't read IGN AU) admitted that they post stuff that riles the Nintendo faithful, yet concedes that they're in an an amazing and (sales-wise) uncontested position of selling games to two crowds. I really don't understand how people are missing the overall point of the article. It's meant to be praising of Nintendo, not a dig.
I think people in this thread, including the OP, have largely misread the article. The author isn't assessing the success of the Wii (as a whole) relative to other platforms; so he's not saying (as the thread title misleading indicates) that Microsoft have been more financially successful than Nintendo, or that the Microsoft's and Sony's strategies or platforms are superior.
It's not a Wii bashing article all! Rather it's a recognition of the need for a balance between hardcore and 'casual' games, on the basis that casual gamers buy relatively few titles so can be sated more easily, allowing Nintendo to drive greater volumes by properly catering to the harcore: the 'other side' of the user base. That's where the comparisons to the 360 come in as a measure of Nintendo's past failure to bank on its hardcore heritage (according to the author anyway).
However the point of the article is to acknowledge that things are changing, that Nintendo is finally in a position to redress the balance, having done what it needs to do in the 'casual' market to maintain its position. So he's being optimistic about the Wii's prospects, believing that we're about to see a new renaissance in hardcore Nintendo games, allowing the Wii to capitalise on both markets.
The thread title should have been: IGN: "Nintendo [is] already reinventing the Wii as a hardcore gaming platform. It's the smartest move it could possibly make. "
It's not a Wii bashing article all! Rather it's a recognition of the need for a balance between hardcore and 'casual' games, on the basis that casual gamers buy relatively few titles so can be sated more easily, allowing Nintendo to drive greater volumes by properly catering to the harcore: the 'other side' of the user base. That's where the comparisons to the 360 come in as a measure of Nintendo's past failure to bank on its hardcore heritage (according to the author anyway).
However the point of the article is to acknowledge that things are changing, that Nintendo is finally in a position to redress the balance, having done what it needs to do in the 'casual' market to maintain its position. So he's being optimistic about the Wii's prospects, believing that we're about to see a new renaissance in hardcore Nintendo games, allowing the Wii to capitalise on both markets.
The thread title should have been: IGN: "Nintendo [is] already reinventing the Wii as a hardcore gaming platform. It's the smartest move it could possibly make. "
TheRagnCajun
Member
...oh man. I should have scrolled down to see how long that was. If I had known I could have read the tl;dr and save myself time and brain cells.
Sho_Nuff82
Member
onipex said:
The author notes that, and he also notes that its sales are greater than a good number of "hardcore" Wii titles combined. Seriously guys, READ the fucking thing, then post.
Scrubking said:
Sorry. I think 4 Wii games and like 30+ 360 games. I'm not hating on Wii, I just wish my GF would play it more since I bought it mostly for her. As it turns out, she's getting real interested in PS3 now with the price drop because of the platformer type games (LBP, Ratchet Clank) so I think we're going to pick up a Slim for Christmas. Even if she doesn't play it much, at least I'll have a sweet bluray player
Yay for finally owning all 3 consoles =p.freddy said:
Dude, I'm not trying to discredit anyone -- that's kinda the whole point. People are so fixated on the idea that this is an anti-Wii article that they can't see it's a positive appraisal of where Nintendo is now. They have a unique position: an incredibly huge hardware base and an intensely loyal fanbase that has, in relation to previous systems, been ill-served. If they can appease both markets (and the article makes the point that the casuals can be happy with just a few games with some crossover), then Nintendo can capitalize on all those installed units and rake in more from those that want something that uses the hardware in unique ways.
It's not a negative editorial at all.
For what it's worth, I'm not defending anything. I'm just trying to present my own take on things that I feel people are glossing over en masse because of the title or ultra-sensitive reactions to particular phrasings or... something. I'm honestly perplexed because I don't see this as a bashing article. The thread title is a little sensationalistic, sure, but I would think reading comprehension isn't completely lost on the GAF audience.
hamchan said:
No, he's probably talking about me.
Biff
Member
jay said:
Can someone make a jpeg stamp with 'IGN Quality' text in front of an over-the-top happy yet unrelated background image? Like a unicorn jumping over a rainbow or a first-place gold ribbon or something... So friendly, nursery-approved that it makes you nauseous?
I think it would serve us well in the future.
Edit: Meh, tried my best. A turtle riding a unicorn works, I think?
ViperVisor
Member
At least it is better than that podcast I posted quotes from.
Bizzyb said:
Name an FPS on the Wii that has delivered the same level of multiplayer depth, story or, yes, visual/aural fidelity/immersion as the bigger titles on the HD systems. Now who's being ignorant? Jeezus, do you even know what that word means?
This thread is driving me nuts. Please read the article, then read my and the posters who are contesting the OP's posts and understand where the clear break in comprehension is happening. Or just keep posting hilarious .gifs. Sometimes I fucking hate this place.