IMO Sony is forced to release their games on PC because soon it will be all about the digital locker & being able to play your games anywhere

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onQ123

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If Sony didn't release games on PC they would be at a disadvantage in the digital locker age. in the digital locker age hardware will not matter you will just buy the software & play it wherever you like but it would be pointless for people to choose to by from Sony if their licence only worked for PS5.

This is where we are headed

onQ123 said:
Next mind bending prediction: You will be able to play PS5 games on your PS4 , Xbox One , Xbox Scarlet , PC , Mac , Android phone & iPhone even if you don't own a PS5.
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How big of a game changer would it be if Sony is using a large amount of ReRAM as the PS5 SSD?

Yep. I thought about it the second they announced SSDs. The problem would be: no PC support. The assets will be highly hardware specific, multiplatform games will not do it... That's a very good point. The PC and console versions of the game would have to operate differently. Perhaps this is...
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Maybe they will have a subscription psn store for PC.
I don't see how ps5 players will want to pay monthly fees if pc players gets by without it.
 
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All it is is an eventuality that they've pushed back on but have to inevitably concede to. It's just the direction things are going, and like MS there's nothing wrong with it.
 
You're talking about streaming, right? I mean, how else would you play PS5 games on PS4 or Xbox?

If that's the case, then why do a regular release on Steam and EGS like Sony is doing? Why spend all that time and money porting the games?
 
I remember a few years ago explaining this concept and it was just too much for GAF to handle. Of coarse that was old GAF, lets see how new GAF does...
 
I hope so. I've owned every PlayStation since it's inception but still am primarily a PC player and would love to play my PS games on PC with m/kb and much higher settings.

MSFT doing it has been an awesome move. Love being able to play my games on my PC and then hop over to the Xbox if I feel like doing that.

Literally anyone who says otherwise is a blind fanboy and needs to get a grip on life and move on from the console wars.

I'm glad I got the console wars bug outta my system in the Genesis/SNES days and can spend more time enjoying games instead of arguing over a preferred piece of plastic and silicone.
 
I still think Jim Ryan, I remember he had a interview in November of last saying this:

"If we are to be successful, we really have to leverage the opportunities that globalisation brings. I am going to give you some examples. One is around the productisation of PlayStation 5, the definition of the feature set, of the development and the implementation of those features. That process, this time around, has been massively more streamlined compared to anything we've done in the past. The product planners are now having one conversation instead of three different regional conversations, where they needed to reconcile positions that were often conflicting or contradictory, with an endless process of iteration and consensus. That's not happening anymore. We have one conversation and we get on and do stuff."


If you read the entire article of the interview he basically foreshadowed what he was planning to do.
 
Okay then explain Nintendo. Is somebody forcing Nintendo to PC? Same logic applies to Sony if they desire to keep their IP on Sony hardware.
 
Lone Wolf said:
so Sony is forcing Sony?
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Omeggos said:
Seems like an oxymoron

on top of that, i seriously doubt Sony and their 100+ install base need to be forced to do anything.
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It's more like Sony want to stay ahead of the curve if consumer tech really is trending toward something like this. The idea of a digital locker wouldn't just be for games. It would be for every digital item a consumer buys from any storefront. Games, apps, movies, music, artwork, etc. So, if people get used to that, they are going to start expecting it and they will naturally gravitate towards purchasing things that have that functionality out of convenience. It sounds too pro consumer to be true BUT, if there is profit in it (or risk of profit loss if not adapted) as well as being convenient for consumers, it will happen.
 
OP is correct. In business you adapt or die and when you see the future coming you'd better start preparing now or it will be a massive battle playing catch up later.
 
Hinedorf said:
Okay then explain Nintendo. Is somebody forcing Nintendo to PC? Same logic applies to Sony if they desire to keep their IP on Sony hardware.
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Nintendo has relegated themselves to the handheld market which is independently operating and agnostic of home hardware.
 
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LazyParrot said:
You're talking about streaming, right? I mean, how else would you play PS5 games on PS4 or Xbox?

If that's the case, then why do a regular release on Steam and EGS like Sony is doing? Why spend all that time and money porting the games?
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It will be how ever they can get it to work. In my mind the answer is universal coding or recompiling the code to work on the hardware you have.
 
DynamiteCop! said:
Nintendo has relegated themselves to the handheld market which is independently operating and agnostic of home hardware.
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How so? I play the Switch on the same television as my PS4, what's the difference in it acting exactly like a home console in every way the PS4 does? Connects to the TV, joins it's own unique gaming network, plays both online and multiplayer, can download content directly to the console.

The Switch is everything the PS4 is, it can just also go portable. SO AGAIN what is the difference in Nintendo keeping IP to their hardware and Sony doing the same?
 
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Hinedorf said:
How so? I play the Switch on the same television as my PS4, what's the difference in it acting exactly like a home console in every way the PS4 does? Connects to the TV, joins it's own unique gaming network, plays both online and multiplayer, can download content directly to the console.

The Switch is everything the PS4 is, it can just also go portable. SO AGAIN what is the difference in Nintendo keeping IP to their hardware and Sony doing the same?
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It has the capability to connect to a TV but it's clear where the market dominance lies for them and its primary use case. They exist in their own little world abstract of Sony, Microsoft and PC.
 
Hinedorf said:
How so? I play the Switch on the same television as my PS4, what's the difference in it acting exactly like a home console in every way the PS4 does? Connects to the TV, joins it's own unique gaming network, plays both online and multiplayer, can download content directly to the console.

The Switch is everything the PS4 is, it can just also go portable. SO AGAIN what is the difference in Nintendo keeping IP to their hardware and Sony doing the same?
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You can make these same arguments for cell phones too.

Nintendo is a handheld company. A great one at that, I love the switch. But it's not really in the same league as the other guys as far as "home consoles" is concerned.
 
It's feels weird to say, but I think for the future having a PC along with a handheld is going to be the way to go. If Sony starts opening up to the PC market you won't have to own any console besides Nintendo's portable one.

PC + handheld and you'll have it covered. And you'll save more in the process. I'm hoping for this future tbh, not anything streaming related (besides for casual stuff I guess).
 
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Nobody is forcing Sony to do anything if there's something they should keep doing is to have exclusives just like Nintendo. Don't get in the ResetEra victimization bandwagon
 
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Phase said:
It's feels weird to say, but I think for the future having a PC along with a handheld is going to be the way to go. If Sony starts opening up to the PC market you won't have to own any console besides Nintendo's portable one.

PC + handheld and you'll have it covered. And you'll save more in the process. I'm hoping for this future tbh, not anything streaming related.
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And people think this means a future without console, it absolutely does not. You'll still be able to get your console just as you always have and have the experiences you want just as you always have. No one is taking that away, simply offering those experiences to other users as well or those who don't want to be hamstringed into a console purchase.

I don't see the problem.
 
DynamiteCop! said:
And people think this means a future without console, it absolutely does not. You'll still be able to get your console just as you always have and have the experiences you want just as you always have. No one is taking that away, simply offering those experiences to other users as well or those who don't want to be hamstringed into a console purchase.

I don't see the problem.
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Good point. Even with everything cross-platform all the platforms will still be available for the foreseeable future. More options is better here.
 
onQ123 said:
It will be how ever they can get it to work. In my mind the answer is universal coding or recompiling the code to work on the hardware you have.
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If you think there are ever going to be Sony developed and published PS5 titles that will run locally not only on Xbox, but on smartphones as well, then you are insane.
 
DynamiteCop! said:
And people think this means a future without console, it absolutely does not. You'll still be able to get your console just as you always have and have the experiences you want just as you always have. No one is taking that away, simply offering those experiences to other users as well or those who don't want to be hamstringed into a console purchase.

I don't see the problem.
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The Harsh Truth.
 
toxiichollow said:
MLB the show...
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I said on Xbox and on smartphones as well. As far as I know the game won't be on mobile phones.

Besides, I'm not all that sure if that particular game is a good indicator of what Sony wants to do as a company. Aren't they only going multiplat on that one because MLB demanded it in their new licensing agreement and they'd risk losing the license otherwise?
 
LazyParrot said:
I said on Xbox and on smartphones as well. As far as I know the game won't be on mobile phones.

Besides, I'm not all that sure if that particular game is a good indicator of what Sony wants to do as a company. Aren't they only going multiplat on that one because MLB demanded it in their new licensing agreement and they'd risk losing the license otherwise?
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They didn't risk losing the license. MLB wants to expand, they were failing at their own in-house 3rd party game compared to the top quality Show. Chase that MUT/FUT revenue across all platforms. It was more than likely a nice deal offered to Sony.

Hell, this will be on the Switch, and not even Madden is.
 
DeepEnigma said:
They didn't risk losing the license. MLB wants to expand, they were failing at their own in-house 3rd party game compared to the top quality Show. Chase that MUT/FUT revenue across all platforms. It was more than likely a nice deal offered to Sony.

Hell, this will be on the Switch, and not even Madden is.
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According to what?
 
I always against the idea of a console exclusive game coming to pc

As soon as they do that...the system become worthless to me....

i already skip series x...and il do the same for ps5 if theyre heading into this direction...

100% PC + Nintendo for me in the foreseable future

In any cases...it actually helps my buying decison much easier...
 
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I was resistant to digital. Last gen when they gave a game away for a Games with Gold If I already owned this disc I didn't bother claiming it. Now I regret some of those decisions.

The digital locker is going to be the most important thing going forward with games being able to be played anywhere from lots of devices.

This is one avenue where they are sorely falling behind in, so I hope you are right for the betterment of all gamers everywhere.
 
Whatever the reason is I'm happy as a PC gamer. Nintendo just needs to jump ship.
 
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To be honest, I don't see Sony releasing all of their day one exclusives on PC and Ps5 simultaneously. If they do though, how many of those 100 million people will buy a more costly PC vs a PS5 console. How many will upgrade their GPU vs buying a console?

This might be a good thing for Vr moving forward. If VR becomes more open, with the headsets the options and not games exclusive to those headsets, then we will see real movement in that field

If this opens up a new revenue stream for older titles for Sony, then so be it 🤷‍♂️
 
People complain about exclusives then they're mad if they don't have any exclusives. If you aren't wanting to buy a console or buy a new one that's BC then you give yourself no wiggle room. Given that Death Stranding is coming to PC and the game which shared its engine with is also coming to PC. What's there to complain about? I'd like more Sony when I can't be in front of my TV. That's where the PSP and the Vita were relevant. Look at what happen to smart phones and video games? All those are digital and it's a blossoming industry now with subscription services.

The digital "locker" isn't a bad thing IMO. Just check your 500+ Steam library. Not everything that goes digital will crash the industry. It opens more doors for people to play. I see a digital age where people want fewer devices or a device that serves a wholesome experience. Having an exclusive or two launch on PC isn't going to move mountains. If anything, they're giving players a chance to finally play it and stop shitting on it for being an exclusive in the first place.
 
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Exclusive games are necessary for console sales.

People buy PS4 just to play titles like Uncharted, Bloodborne, God of War, Spiderman, etc.
 
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Dark Star said:
Exclusive games are necessary for console sales.

People buy PS4 just play titles like Uncharted, Bloodborne, God of War, Spiderman, etc.
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No they buy it because it says Sony on the plastic. It's been proven over and over again in these recent threads where there are no specs or games announced.
 
Dark Star said:
Exclusive games are necessary for console sales.

People buy PS4 just play titles like Uncharted, Bloodborne, God of War, Spiderman, etc.
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Well you can still hold onto a myriad of exclusivity while not providing games to your direct competitor. Do you think people will stop buying PlayStation's and games like Uncharted, Bloodborne and so on just because they become available on PC? No, those people will not buy the console, they will still buy the games but at the same time the console will still continue to sell tens upon tens of millions.
 
I'll be glad when we get over this bump and can start arguing about why it's bad for a company to have exclusives again. This isn't anywhere near as entertaining.
 
DynamiteCop! said:
Well you can still hold onto a myriad of exclusivity while not providing games to your direct competitor. Do you think people will stop buying PlayStation's and games like Uncharted, Bloodborne and so on just because they become available on PC? No, those people will not buy the console, they will still buy the games but at the same time the console will still continue to sell tens upon tens of millions.
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I will
 
This is a bunch of mumbo jumbo. Walled gardens, eco systems. Bollocks through and through. Sony can only loose by entering the pc sphere.

There is no future for sony in pc gaming. How are they going to extract 30% of every fifa, gta, cod sold on pc. They cant. That is how they make money. Ea, rockstar have their own storefronts on pc. They dont need no fucking ecosystem.


Exclusives exist to sell consoles. No one expected to make money of a game like ico, shadow of the colossus. Its there to make the playstation platform more attractive as a whole, to fill gaps. To sell more playstation. So playstation becomes more attractive to third parties, so sony can take a cut on every game sold on playstation.

Leaking exclusives to pc is going to make playstation less attractive to hardcore gamers. Which is going to lead to slower adoption of ps5. Which will make ps5 less attractive to thirdparties and casual gamers.
 
sunnysideup said:
This is a bunch of mumbo jumbo. Walled gardens, eco systems. Bollocks through and through. Sony can only loose by entering the pc sphere.

There is no future for sony in pc gaming. How are they going to extract 30% of every fifa, gta, cod sold on pc. They cant. That is how they make money. Ea, rockstar have their own storefronts on pc. They dont need no fucking ecosystem.
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The answer is really easy. They create a launcher like Epic did. That way all sales can go through them and they can maintain the illusion of freedom.
 
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