ChorizoPicozo
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James Sawyer Ford
Member
In 10-20 years I’ll be playing on PS9
SportsFan581
Member
Generations getting really short in the future, noted.
rofif
Can’t Git Gud
No. You will be playing pc gaas games in meta verse. Only older people will have ps5 lol
coffinbirth
Member
The cells degrade from USE.
Working under the assumption that people concerned enough with battery life to comment about it on the internet would actually have a reason, but here we are.
Banjo64
cumsessed
So just don’t use it. Problem solved.
nominedomine
Banned
Maybe you'll be playing on the Xbox 8KX something Series using AA batteries.
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rofif
Can’t Git Gud
That’s not true.
Lithium ion batteries degrade just as much sitting in a drawer…. Depending on what charge you left it and other conditions
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Crayon
Member
I'd rather change out the internal battery every 7 years.
Managing a bunch of recharchable nimh batteries is not any easier than keeping all these internal-battery controllers charged. Wish it was.
Otherwise, if you think this is a battleground of consumer rights, you are a freak. Go be in the circus so your family can never speak of you again and get on with their lives.
Managing a bunch of recharchable nimh batteries is not any easier than keeping all these internal-battery controllers charged. Wish it was.
Otherwise, if you think this is a battleground of consumer rights, you are a freak. Go be in the circus so your family can never speak of you again and get on with their lives.
Eddie-Griffin
Banned
Weren't Sixaxis controller batteries known to last longer than the DS3?
rofif
Can’t Git Gud
It’s the small things. I am not saving the world and running for President.
With your way of thinking… can every non essential product be crap with planned obsolescence?!
coffinbirth
Member
Well yes, but to the extent of this example, they will degrade much faster with use and repeated charge/discharge. Doubly so if you don't do a full discharge and charge cycle every time. They can also swell(see PSP)leak and potentially explode simply by sitting in a drawer as well.
coffinbirth
Member
Unsure, but it would make sense in terms of the power draw being greater, therefore more charging cycles over the same period of time.
Nocturno999
Member
What a stupid response. I disagree it's a scam but he brings some valid points. This is a video game forum.
Crayon
Member
This is a little prefference thing. Batteries end up in a landfill. I can easily chanve a set of aa's many times, or I can change an internal pack once even tho it's a pain. I'm not saying you can't care about it, but overstating the case as an affront is... I guess it's in fashion.
rofif
Can’t Git Gud
Sony offering new internal batteries would be a good starter sure.
Crayon
Member
The plugs and cells are generic. I can find my own battery. I would just like the compartment to be accessible with maybe a screw or even a star bit. Also a little wiggle room in there would be nice. It's easy to find a battery pack with the right spec and plug, but it's annoying when they don't quite fit.
Taking apart a PS4 controller is crazy. There are some things you take apart and they might feel a little like they're going to break or a lot like they're going to break. I have never pulled something apart that was as harrowing as a PS4 controller. While prying the body shell apart, I was positive that something was going to break. It didn't, though. I just really want that little access door for the battery.
Javthusiast
Banned
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
My budget $200 android has a 4000 mah battery, shit lasts for DAYS.
TLZ
Banned
I've noticed you've been pretty agitated lately. Haven't noticed that before. Or maybe you were but you're even more now. I know life throws crap at you sometimes but try to cope. For your own health.
I do like internal batteries, but I also do agree that there should be access to them. A door would help instead of having to open up the controller. Like they do with their HDDs and SSDs.
Husky
THE Prey 2 fanatic
I just came back from a vacation in Paris
I'm not the OP but I just wanted to share. I had a really good time. Someday I'll go again.
cinnamonandgravy
Member
none of my controllers with rechargeable batteries have died (e.g., ps3). gameboy SP still going strong too.
helps to baby them... dont keep them plugged in at full charge, let them drain all the way to 0 power when you can.
im on the fence though... rechargeable AA batteries (eneloop) are so easy to swap and i love the weight they add, but rechargeable usb feels like the premium solution... and once the usb battery does die, you can replacement it with a much higher capacity battery, and battery tech will keep getting better/cheaper (though it might be a pain to replace).
so i guess... im slightly in the rechargeable AA camp.
helps to baby them... dont keep them plugged in at full charge, let them drain all the way to 0 power when you can.
im on the fence though... rechargeable AA batteries (eneloop) are so easy to swap and i love the weight they add, but rechargeable usb feels like the premium solution... and once the usb battery does die, you can replacement it with a much higher capacity battery, and battery tech will keep getting better/cheaper (though it might be a pain to replace).
so i guess... im slightly in the rechargeable AA camp.
DS3 and DS4 function wired even if the battery is absent. The dual sense won't turn on if there is any issue with the battery. I found this out while replacing drifting sticks. I thought that I had made a mistake soldering until I reconnected the battery.
Edgelord79
Gold Member
badblue
Gold Member
Great that the controller has lasted you ten years but imagine if the battery died after two. Now what? Would you rather pay full price for a new controller when the battery dies or would you rather just be able to buy just a new battery?
cash_longfellow
Member
Same, no kids, not married. I’m work a lot…but I’m definitely not worried about internal batteries lol. Either way, thanks for sharing, and I hope you are well.
cash_longfellow
Member
What a stupid response to a stupid response
. Listen, I know it’s a video game forum, believe it or not, I’ve been here a long time. I’ve seen plenty of pointless threads, and this is one of them. It’s about batteries for christ sale, not even video games…fucking batteries.
Pedro Motta
Gold Member
You should sue them for
If you have two controllers for multiplayer already wouldn't just pressing the button on the second controller be easier than fiddling with battery compartments and putting AAs in a charger? Or are people really buying second controllers because they have 12hr long play sessions or forget to charge it? You can just charge it with any usb phone battery pack and don't need long wires to charge btw. Hell if it bothers you that much just buy a pair of these
https://amzn.eu/d/c3kNvtd
You will have 25hr battery life and much easier hotswappable batteries.
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rabbity-thing
Member
Hey OP, sorry everyone's giving you such a hard time. While I don't know that internal batteries are inherently anti-consumer, I do see that it could easily be seen as such. In defense of Internal batteries, they help to keep the size of our tech down because they are smaller than the kinds of AA and AAA that we'd end up using. There is also the convenience factor, obviously. In opposition, though, as you said, they will eventually die and game companies rarely offer replacement parts. Internal batteries are easy to lump into the category of choices that could easily be part of planned obsolescence (which is very anti-consumer).
That said, I've replaced many internal batteries on gamepades and portables with aftermarket parts from third parties, so it's not so bad. I'm much more frustrated by internal batts in phones since they are often inside cases that are absolutely ridiculous to open up.
That said, I've replaced many internal batteries on gamepades and portables with aftermarket parts from third parties, so it's not so bad. I'm much more frustrated by internal batts in phones since they are often inside cases that are absolutely ridiculous to open up.
For me the issue is the PS5 controllers battery is just straight up dogshit when you compare to the Xbox.
My Xbox Elite Series 2 controller can last me 24+ hours, my PS5 controller can barely last 7/8 hours.
I don't use vibration, or the new triggers or even use gyro. I genuinely don't understand why the PS5 controller is that hungry while my Xbox controller can last over 24 hours. Makes no sense other than Sony using dogshit internal batteries.
My Xbox Elite Series 2 controller can last me 24+ hours, my PS5 controller can barely last 7/8 hours.
I don't use vibration, or the new triggers or even use gyro. I genuinely don't understand why the PS5 controller is that hungry while my Xbox controller can last over 24 hours. Makes no sense other than Sony using dogshit internal batteries.
BreakOut
Member
The money I save with batteries before I have to replace the controller based on batteries will pay for the controller two times over if not more. I can use my PS4 controller from years and years ago from the original PlayStation 4 for 2-3 hours still. Batteries are expensive as hell. Not to mention just a bunch of waste. I’ll take an internal battery.
Not sure how you fooled yourself into believing this bullshit.
I like the fact that he uses curtain hooks.
BlackTron
Member
I just saw your post in the Edge thread and was already thinking about how exasperated I get when someone doesn't want to buy a controller because it DOESN'T come with a built-in battery. But I wouldn't have made my own thread, so now you gave me the chance to say it.
It's quite a shame because there have been some otherwise very fine controllers ruined by the battery situation. I've been maining 360 and Wavebirds for TWENTY FRICKING YEARS till Series came along.
I wish everything under the sun just took AA.
It's quite a shame because there have been some otherwise very fine controllers ruined by the battery situation. I've been maining 360 and Wavebirds for TWENTY FRICKING YEARS till Series came along.
I wish everything under the sun just took AA.
Sid Of Bee
Member
Replaceable batteries rule.
BlackTron
Member
Just recharge AA batteries instead of the one that comes in a controller.
-always have the next set charged and ready, no need to interrupt wireless gameplay
-never use a cable again or put wear on the port
-standard battery available anywhere that works in a lot of stuff
-no invasive procedure to change the battery
-you can still use a bog standard AA in a pinch, just in case
I literally got an 8 pack of AA's the other day with a charger for like 10 bucks that will keep all my 360/Series/Wavebirds going for years.
Some of these things are 20 years old and I never even had to take them apart just to change a battery.
Keep in mind that while there is a race to make them thin the removed housing from a removable battery pack has increased your battery mAh for the same thickness.
TexMex
Gold Member
We’ve gotten hilariously liberal with the definition of “anti consumer” lately.
Internal battery for life. I’ve never had one die and wouldn’t ever use a controller long enough for that to ever be a concern. If you still use your 360 controller or whatever, good for you, don’t care. Prolonging the life of a decade old controller is something I’ll never give a shit about.
Internal battery for life. I’ve never had one die and wouldn’t ever use a controller long enough for that to ever be a concern. If you still use your 360 controller or whatever, good for you, don’t care. Prolonging the life of a decade old controller is something I’ll never give a shit about.
coffinbirth
Member
Yeah, just found this out. Totally uncool.
Any device without user replaceable batteries is functionally disposable. Game controllers do not fall into that category because the batteries are easily replaceable. Even portable consoles like the switch can get a new battery with little effort.
What we need to stand up to is the glut of other electronics whose batteries require specialized equipment to replace or can't be replaced at all. Any effort to stymie repairability should be rejected. Not for consumer reasons though. I want to stem the massive tide of electronic waste.
What we need to stand up to is the glut of other electronics whose batteries require specialized equipment to replace or can't be replaced at all. Any effort to stymie repairability should be rejected. Not for consumer reasons though. I want to stem the massive tide of electronic waste.