Captain Toad
Banned
Not because of the battery though. DualSense has a lot of tech not in the Series controller.
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ResilientBanana
Member
A controller isn't a phone and die frequently. Quick changing the batteries is the ultimate luxury.
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Rocco Schiavone
Member
What kind of luxury are you talking about?
You can change the dualsense battery within 5 minutes with shitty euipment. But the shitty Smartphones are glued and It's not that easy. So what are you trying to prove here??
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
The versatility of choice is good.
rofif
Can’t Git Gud
This is not anti sony thread... if anything I am more fan of sony than xbox.So will these kind of topics die when Microsoft finally switch over to internal?
But I still don't agree with everything they do.
Not everything is fanboy act you know?
rofif
Can’t Git Gud
I could understand this for earbuds. It's very small device with very small, built-in precisely battery.
But bigger stuff don't have to be like that for sure
Naked Lunch
Member
I cant stand internal batteries either.
In the past 5 years or so the Retro gaming market exploded and companies made wireless controllers for old consoles like NES, SNES, Genesis - but now those same companies are making redesigns - and making them wired now. Most likely because the internal batteries are dying already. Ive had lots of issues with RetroBit brand controllers' batteries for Saturn/Genesis.
In the past 5 years or so the Retro gaming market exploded and companies made wireless controllers for old consoles like NES, SNES, Genesis - but now those same companies are making redesigns - and making them wired now. Most likely because the internal batteries are dying already. Ive had lots of issues with RetroBit brand controllers' batteries for Saturn/Genesis.
Cyberpunkd
Member
He is right though. Once the internal battery dies your pad is useless.
ResilientBanana
Member
You can change the dual sense battery in 5 minutes? By what, taking the controller apart? I can change the batteries in an Xbox Controller in 30 seconds. Talk about load times, yeesh.
spons
Gold Member
My Switch currently works fine, but the moment the battery shits the bed I can basically throw the entire thing away. At least the 3DS battery was replaceable.
Why in the name of dick do they not do that for the Switch? Open your unit, replace battery, enjoy the product for 5 more years.
Why in the name of dick do they not do that for the Switch? Open your unit, replace battery, enjoy the product for 5 more years.
Trogdor1123
Member
Guess it depends on the cost of a controller and providing your own batteries.
lachesis
Member
Agree... Earbuds are much more understandable as per the product design itself... but to me, at least they are very expensive "throwaway" product. If I am spending 2-300 bucks on earbuds - I want them to perform long long time - like a decade minimum, not 2-3 years. At least, I wish they'd setup some sort of battery replacement center (for cheap) where people can just visit/change the batteries at much more reasonable price.
But for headphones... I've seen some teardowns of some Bose QuietComfort 35 and 45s - and they seem to be using roughly AAA sized built in battery to boot. It just seems like a lazy product design.
Or maybe it's me who's looking some "longevity" in any product that I buy - is just terribly outdated person.
Maybe it's the mentality thing.
Something like a car - one would be highly encouraged to keep the oils/filters changed and all - but why different mentality on other things... especially where you don't have to sacrifice that much convenience to keep the "options" open, like Dual Shock/Sense or phones... or all these disposable electronics, is something that I don't understand.
Then again, one thing I noticed when I came to U.S. about 30 some years ago from Asia - I was so shocked that society was encouraging "consume, consume, consume" - while I was taught and brought up "save, save, save".
Rocco Schiavone
Member
Yeah It's easy everybody can do that. But I know Xbox Fanboys can't even put an nmve cooler on a NVME. That's way you like Seagate and pay more for storage.
So you are overwhelmed by changing the battery. Better stick with your MS console.
ResilientBanana
Member
I build PC’s and don’t own an Xbox. But I do have an Xbox controller and I used to have a PS4 pro. The Xbox controller was way better in terms of getting back into the game as opposed to being stuck to a plug to continue playing on the PS4.Yeah It's easy everybody can do that. But I know Xbox Fanboys can't even put an nmve cooler on a NVME. That's way you like Seagate and pay more for storage.
So you are overwhelmed by changing the battery. Better stick with your MS console.
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Clockwork5
Member
My analog sticks go to shit long before the battery does. 
Kadve
Member
So much cheaper for the companies. With Internal batteries they can keep it at the voltage best suited for the system. But for external ones they are locked to a certain voltage and have to design the entire hardware around that.
(DS4 is at 3.7V while DS5 uses 4.2V. Not really achievable with external batteries)
(edit) Sorry, misread OP. Yea i agree that new battery packs should be available.
(DS4 is at 3.7V while DS5 uses 4.2V. Not really achievable with external batteries)
(edit) Sorry, misread OP. Yea i agree that new battery packs should be available.
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Dirk Benedict
Member
Internal batteries aren't even the most prolific problem for controllers. It's the fucking Drift! FIX THE DRIFT, once and for all!
Warnen
Don't pass gaas, it is your Destiny!
Don’t like them in controllers just because I end up needing to swap them often or stop playing and recharge. Hell I use a wired pad keyboard and mouse on my pc to just avoid the issue. Don’t bother me as much on a phone or iPad but guess if I could swap I would.
rofif
Can’t Git Gud
You can imagine this bin with dead mp3 players, ipods, smartphones, battery packs, controllers and tons, tons of other items which are hard to recycle because human is required to open it carefully, disassemble it and so on.Basically
With AAA/AA it's easier to recycle since we have special bins for these and there are special facilities which take care of this task.
And you can see some internal b atteries in that bin too... and the power tools batteries which also have internal battery inside.. but that's a different topic probably
rofif
Can’t Git Gud
But it will ruin your life.
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Dust-by-Monday
Member
Wires are still a thing.
Dust-by-Monday
Member
We need more proof than just one random on the internet. He could be having a completely different issue with his controller.
Brigandier
Member
I would rather have a internal battery that's accessible by a screw slot if and when necessary.
Spitfire098
Member
Internal battery's all day every day.
captain_cabbage
Member
ThatGamingDude
I am a virgin
rofif
Can’t Git Gud
ez but unnecessary
JackMcGunns
Member
Options are always better, but alas, the same people preaching that changing your own SSD drive is better than a proprietary, will be the same one telling you that internal "proprietary" batteries are better
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JackMcGunns
Member
I don't yet own a PS5, but my PS4 controller is the pits, it either sucks too much power, or the internal battery stinks, not enough mAh. I use external rechargeable packs with additional mah that could go a damn week without the need for a recharge, whereas my PS4 controller needs to be recharged the same day sometimes
Bonsaibäumchen
Member
I've taken all Somy controllers apart. Theres no magic behind it. You can also replace/switch the internal battery if you feel the need to do it.
I haven't had issues with my sony controllers batterys ever.
People are blowing these things out of proportion.
DarkMage619
$MSFT
I've never needed to take apart an Xbox controller. I can easily and quickly replace the rechargeable batteries and be playing again in seconds. There is no way to replace an internal PlayStation controller battery that easily. I like options and appreciate the simplicity offered in MS' solution.
Bonsaibäumchen
Member
I never had to replace batterys as well whats your point? I just said you could if needed.
S0ULZB0URNE
Member
Cell phones are guilty of this bs as well.
FeldMonster
Member
You do realize that AAs are a geometry and voltage specification and not a battery chemistry, right?
Lithium (non-rechargeable) and lithium ion AAs exist, (as do the more popular Nickel metal hydride and alkaline chemistries).
The reason you don't often see Lithium ion AAs (beyond the cost) is that the single cell voltage doesn't match up well with AAs and the weight advantage over Nimh is negligible. But they do exist.
ThatGamingDude
I am a virgin
Regular maintenance of one's personal belongings is typically necessary
I mean sure you can continue buying new controllers or wiring up the dead ones you have while you complain about disposable batteries
.....Orrrrr you can solve the problem with a 5 minute YouTube video and ordering the battery off of Amazon....
The issue comes from the quality and availability of those batteries ordered off of Amazon or wherever else. I had to buy 3 different replacement batteries for my Wii U gamepad before I found one that could hold a charge for longer than 60-90 minutes (ifixit ended up being the best option).
ThatGamingDude
I am a virgin
Yeah some electrical engineering knowledge comes into play, but really batteries are the easier side of that
Not trying to be rude, but if you're looking to replace the air filter on your car then just flop at looking up a good one that fits yeah you'll probably have to buy a few to get what you're looking for
I don't really know what else to say other than research more, sorry
Andrew Evenstar
Member
so is my state california trying to go all green, when they can't even keep normal azz power on lol. i luv rolling blaq-outz
Stuart360
Member
I use wired Xbox controllers on PC, but when i were gaming on 360 i preferred external batteries as i would just buy a load of cheap AA battery packs, and i didnt have to worry about forgetting to charge the controller before a gaming sesh, or the controller running out in the middle of a gaming sesh.
EDMIX
Writes a lot, says very little
I think I've only changed that battery once and it was for PS3, it was for some controller I had that was a special edition of sorts. The MGS4 gunmetal PS3 controller.
Used it for years, it never actually died, it just ran out of change faster. Ordered some battery on Ebay for $9 or so, took literally less then 5 minutes to unscrew the controller and replace the battery...lived life.
Have yet to change that shit since and that was like 4 years ago or that happened. I haven't needed to change any PS4 battery.
Stuart360
lol I also prefer wired on PC. Although one day I might get those new XB controllers for PC to splurge, but right now I'm ok using the classic wired XB controller PC
Used it for years, it never actually died, it just ran out of change faster. Ordered some battery on Ebay for $9 or so, took literally less then 5 minutes to unscrew the controller and replace the battery...lived life.
Have yet to change that shit since and that was like 4 years ago or that happened. I haven't needed to change any PS4 battery.
Stuart360
lol I also prefer wired on PC. Although one day I might get those new XB controllers for PC to splurge, but right now I'm ok using the classic wired XB controller PC
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