Iraqi government shuts down Al-Jazeera
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Fuck it, America II* is well underway by now, no stoping it.
*The "real" democracy.
*The "real" democracy.
Just shut up about this being "American democracy in action". Al Jizzeria had the most angled news reports ever. Journalism? More like "Hey! Look at this! We found a random clip of some americans shooting weapons, let's lie and say they were firing at civilians who were having lunch, petting lambs or <insert holy animal here>!". They angled their reports to be anti-american, and that aint right. Besides, it was the Iraqi government who took the decision, and no matter what you think Uncle Sam doesn't control that.
pestul said:
No. Through intelligent analyses of their reporting and obvious agendas.
I don't rely on any SINGLE news agency for news. I canvas rather broadly and try my best to put together a solid image of as many viewpoints as possible. Al-Jezeera, however, isn't on any of my go-to lists.
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MIMIC said:
Our country is a great deal more stable than the current Iraqi situation. I'm all for freedom of the press but there's a limit to *everything*. If the current Iraqi government feels the situation is fragile enough, and I agree that it is, then Al-Jazeera should be shut down until things are more stable.
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Mejilan said:
Sorry but most news agencies are interested in being profitable - not promoting a political or social agenda.
Admirable, but in the end what any person considers credible or acceptable viewpoints is going to vary. Even if I showed you raw footage of an event, how I present that footage could entirely alter your perception of what's really happening.
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Why isn't it right?
Is it any better to have your medias bias as "anti-arabic"?
Since when was it a crime to politically have an anti-west agenda?
Inquiring minds, and all that.
I think a def for credible that fits the bill is: Capable of being believed; plausible.pestul said:
And to answer your question - its generally not the media outlet itself that isn't credible. Its the news they recieve from the US gov't that isn't credible (at least in American media). Just look at news reports from the Vietnam era.
Fight for Freeform said:BTW, I'm not defending Al Jazeera as much as I'm pointing out that you guys are talking out of your asses.
An Al Jazeera person plain out states that they do it and that they don't try to "hide it" in that movie regarding Al Jazeera. Forgot what it was called. The control room or something like that?
Makura said:
People like this are the type of people who bring down society as a whole.
Do you speak arabic Makura? How many hours of al-jazeera do you watch? Well I understand it perfectly, have been watching it for years, and in terms of news I divide my time almost equally between aljazeera and CNN. With this in mind, I can safely say you're an ignoramus. Maybe you're proud of it.
In any case, I guess this doesnt surprise me. The sad fact is the truth doesn't always look good, and many would like to see it sugarcoated, or spoken in a certain way. You know, Id rather they shut down aljazeera completely in baghdad rather than 'restructuring' it and destroying its integrity.
Please if you don't understand arabic, any of you, noone needs your opinion. Some things people just dont have the right to comment on. Its like me commenting on a taiwanese news channel. Id never do it, because I dont fucking understand it, and im not going to rely on tidbits from another news channel to frame my opinion. Have some self respect people.
Sure I do. What about the words of the senior editor for aljazeera.net?:
Doesn't sound very neutral to me - they already decided what view they wish to put forth ("illegal enterprise"). And that's just the tip of the iceberg.
Doesn't sound very neutral to me - they already decided what view they wish to put forth ("illegal enterprise"). And that's just the tip of the iceberg.
Makura said:
They're Arab and are thus speaking from an Arab point-of-view. Whether you want to admit it or not, this is the way many Arabs feel about the Iraq war.
Regardless, their coverage isn't as one-sided as most people like to paint it. Colon Powell and other administration officials are asked to come on and speak directly to the Arab audience fairly often.
I'm not an expert on this subject or anything. At the same time, I find Rumsfeld referring to Al-Jazeera as "the mouthpiece of Osama Bin Laden" to be completely absurd. You should really check out the movie "Control Room" to get a glimpse of what happens behind the scenes at Al-Jazeera. As far as I can tell, they make every effort to present perspectives that differ with their own.
Socreges said:
I'm not sure you could point out something as "inciting violence" without relying on your own agendas/views.
For example: if aljazeera calls the bomber that bombs an Israeli pizza place a 'martyr' theyre obviously supporting that act. In the U.S. (and 99% of the non-Muslim world) that would be considered terrorism. However, in the Arab world it could be heroism. Al-jazeera's coverage would be no different then CNN's coverage of the heroes of 9-11.
Slurpy said:
Wow what a fucking joke. Listen all that the media does in both the west and the middleeast is go against Iraq. So much bullshit comes from both sides. And Al-Jazeera is fucking biased. I have it and watch it. They don't report the truth, they just report the wishful bullshit that the Arabs dream of happening, like Saddam defeating the US.
http://www.culturevulture.net/Movies8/ControlRoom.htm this is for my comment regarding the control room, and it also clearly states what i stated above.
Edit: forgot to mention that the media covers so little about the good progress being made, its just unbelievable. All you hear about are bombings, but in reality those are down a very good number and are only occuring in the same number of areas where these insurgents are located.
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