It melts my cold heart to say it, but they haven't made a Resident Evil as good as 4 since

That I shall give you, OP.

RE4 was the start of the primary characters ending up in Bizarre Land. It's honestly rather strange to see where the series has went over the last few decades.

I feel after RE4, the magic instigated by the earlier games was all but lost. However, the remakes are kind of appealing to the old school fans. Structurally, they are quite similar. You still have to find a lot of ammo, keys, and other stuff necessary to fulfill your objectives. So it's a step in the right direction.

But my God. Was RE8 just flat out weird!?
 
I still think a Code Veronica remake in the style of 2R could be fantastic. The atmosphere would be exceptional, they could fix any problems of the original, and they could shine a light on an underrated game in the series that has unique locations and mechanics. I just hope they're not being held back by fear of the reception by a vocal minority on Twitter when people get to the antagonist's story. It's more likely to just be a straight money chasing motivation, but you never know.
 
While RE4 is a very fun game, it really doesn't particularly feel like a RE game. What, with not having zombies or really anything to do with Umbrella, or the original creatures you encountered throughout the prior games. The game is also too much like an arcade, action adventure. Running out of supplies is never really much of a problem.

This bugs me, still to this day. I'd have preferred to have seen The Umbrella Chronicles as a PS2 game with fixed camera angles, but without the reimagined sections. Just counting the in-between scenarios and the Russian scenario. Then that could have been a nice way to end the original era, I guess you could call it. Basically how RE was before RE4 was released. If you know what I mean.

Meh. Nitpicky, I know. :)
 
Calling RE4 an RE is like calling current mumble Rap, Hip Hop

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It is, but it doesn't have the same formula as the other games before it.

Basically, people see it as either being the "death" or saviour of the franchise.
 
The Non Romero Zombie said:
It is, but it doesn't have the same formula as the other games before it.

Basically, people see it as either being the "death" or saviour of the franchise.
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Because people didn't consider it a real survival horror and more of an action TPS but it's still the best single player TPS on the market.

In 2022.

I can't believe they haven't been able to outdo it yet, but somehow they haven't.
 
I'll take 7 and Village over 4 any day. They really captured the horror and dread of the original RE games while 4 felt like an action game. I liked 4 but it almost went in a cool-guy anime direction that annoyed me.

At least RE2 and RE3 remakes were excellent and hopefully they can up the atomosphere and horror in the 4 remake.
 
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To each their own, really. But my takes since RE4...
  • RE5 - I ran into red ring issues on my 360, between the wait and other games releasing, I put RE5 down, and never picked it back up. I thought it was fine overall, but didn't care enough to go back to it, which I guess is pretty telling.
  • RE6 - I just never touched it because of the reception. Didn't look that great, didn't sound great, etc.
  • Revelation 1&2 - Never touched them, but I've been curious.
  • RE7 - I actually really enjoyed it a great deal, especially the first half of the game, I thought the second half was definitely weaker. But a solid game overall for something so "brave" regarding the jump to FPS.
  • RE8/Village - I thought the game was fun enough to finish, but the entire game just felt like a "safe" amusement park ride on rails or something. Had some cool things here and there, but in the end a lot of it felt silly and forgettable.
  • RE2 Remake - OUTSTANDING. Really. Honestly one of the best RE games in a LONG time IMO.
  • RE3 Remake - A fine experience, honestly should've been better. A lot better. Some strange changes and calls in the game. I thought it was fine enough to enjoy, but the original outshined it IMO.
 
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I've never considered RE4 to really be much of a RE game, because it's a different kettle of fish compared to the older games. The story just has little references to what occurred with Raccoon City, but is otherwise like somebody pointed out, akin to being like an anime show. But I tried revisiting it, as it was a great game otherwise back in the day. However, I found the controls are absolutely atrocious by today's standards. This was a deal breaker for me. And I just don't like them.

Of course, the remake should improve this. But playing the original in 2022 with those shite controls, is not any fun.
 
Resident Evil Code: Veronica Remake would break the market. That game would sell. Both RE0 and REC:V would benefit tremendously from being reimagined too. Cut a little out, add more to the story in certain ways and those two will be blockbuster releases
 
Moses85 said:
Calling RE4 an RE is like calling current mumble Rap, Hip Hop

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I'm split, because while I respect the fuck out of your music taste I don't fully agree with RE4 not being an RE game. RE6 is the mumble rap of Resident Evil. Obviously OG 2 and 3 are top tier Preemo
 
Resident evil 4 is one of the most influential and one of greatest games of all time

My most favorite game for all all time

Considering playing it in day of release back on the day , it was like no other game

It influences gears of war and dead space and almost invented 3rd person over the shoulders shooters

It was a long varied game
It contains puzzles, horror, action, enemy variety , bosses variety , cenimatics , top level graphics ( for its time )

For all mentioned above for me it is my best game for all time

Maybe only half life 2 comes close

I enjoyed RE2 remake immensely but I can not compare it to RE 4 since it is not fair

But RE2 Remake although it does many things better than 4 such us horror elements and atmosphere, it is much shorter , less enemies varieties , less bosses , and scenario 2 is an afterthought
 
dcx4610 said:
I'll take 7 and Village over 4 any day. They really captured the horror and dread of the original RE games while 4 felt like an action game. I liked 4 but it almost went in a cool-guy anime direction that annoyed me.

At least RE2 and RE3 remakes were excellent and hopefully they can up the atomosphere and horror in the 4 remake.
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7 and Village shooting is just too floaty for me. Doesn't feel anywhere near as good to me.

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Ask GigaBowser GigaBowser what "hold my beer" or "bearer (bear) of bad news" means. He doesn't understand idioms.
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With all the following me around you do, you just seem like someone who would make a really good beer holder.

A good hat rack as well.

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I still think that the GC RE:Make is my favorite. 4 is great though. I liked 7/8 in a different way than the others, but they're still both good games.
 
This may sound daft, but I think RE5 is a better sequel than 4, but only once Jill and Wesker show up. Before that, it's a crappy action game with cut and pasted enemies from 4, just with a new race. That's it. But it has more ties to the general lore of the series. This is probably why I enjoy it more. And it's enjoyable with co-op. But again, it hasn't got the atmosphere of RE whatsoever. Just another intense and repetitive shooting game with the principal RE characters in it, really.

RE4 feels like a side story, for some reason. Sure, it introduced the Las Plagas. But for the most part, the game isn't really much of a follow up to RE2 at all. Leon doesn't even seem like the same character from RE2 either. He is more cocky. In RE2, he was more serious. It's like night and day.

I honestly miss that side of RE. I really do. The series just feels a bit dull today. The storylines are so forced feeling now. Does anyone else think so?
 
RE5 is just as good IMO if you're into the arcade style mob encounters. It's all just crowd control.

I understand why it's legendary but RE4 gets boring after the 100th mob encounter, usually around the mine cart area is when the game starts to get tedious for me.

I personally don't really care for 4-6. Of course 4 is great but it's not my go to at all. If it had puzzles it'd probably be top 5 RE for me but I don't know where it's on my list, near the bottom probably.
 
NeoIkaruGAF said:
It and Zero basically broke classic RE. CV is essentially the summa of everything wrong with the pre-RE4 games.
RE4 saved the IP from stagnation.
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Both games I found very unique and held my interest thoroughly throughout every part of the game. They are good games, but they have their flaws and were probably necessary games to have. I won't say that they broke classic Resident Evil, because they didn't, the games just didn't achieve anything groundbreaking. RE4 did. Capcom needs only look to RE4, replace like 30% of the action in that game with horror in its place and they have the recipe for an epic survival horror adventure type of game. All they need to do is alternate between that and the claustrophobic horror that the classic titles bring to the table and the franchise will continue to flourish
 
Gusy said:
OP there is only one true successor to the greatness of Resi 4.. and that game is called Dead Space
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Too true. Game was a masterpiece. Too bad they screwed it up with DS2 (think it was the weapons for me that ruined it, though can't remember since it was years ago I played it).

ACESHIGH said:
Gears of Evil 4 is a very fun game and pretty influential but it almost killed the horror genre.
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Haha, so funny considering RE4 came first.

That and Gears of War is shit in comparison even still.
 
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I agree, but I think RE:Revelations comes very, very close though. I think Revelations has my favorite setting of all RE games.
 
One of the better games in my opinion, is the second Revelations. Didn't fancy the first one too much. It was a bit, well. Meh!

But Barry kicks ass in that game. Claire isn't too shabby either. The story was interesting too, as it was about Albert Wesker's sister, Alex. Although the combat was average. Maybe that's why people didn't take to it. They originally released the game as episodes.

But yeah. I definitely enjoyed it. After that, they started the RE Engine first person games and the remakes. They've been good, but they still feel disappointing in other ways. Maybe it's the cut content, or the silliness of games like RE8 that put me off. Because RE8 especially!? Oh, man. That guy who turned into a transformer-esque boss, and the big baby looking for you in the house. That's hilarious!

It just didn't feel like a RE game. I also don't like the fact that Ethan's face is concealed, or something. Even with the third person mode that they're introducing in an update soon, they're STILL going to be hiding his handsome face. And yep. A lot of people saw the modified epilogue with his face, as he was walking towards the car with his daughter. So, wow. It's kind of pointless.

Anyway, does that mean Ethan is actually still alive? I hope the DLC clears that up. Maybe the ending to the game is also the ending to the DLC. We will know quite soon, either way...
 
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Both games I found very unique and held my interest thoroughly throughout every part of the game. They are good games, but they have their flaws and were probably necessary games to have. I won't say that they broke classic Resident Evil, because they didn't, the games just didn't achieve anything groundbreaking. RE4 did. Capcom needs only look to RE4, replace like 30% of the action in that game with horror in its place and they have the recipe for an epic survival horror adventure type of game. All they need to do is alternate between that and the claustrophobic horror that the classic titles bring to the table and the franchise will continue to flourish
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Code Veronica showed Capcom was bored/clueless about RE at that point. Apart from the graphics, it's just a rehashing of old characters, tropes and situations with the obnoxiousness turned up to eleven. The story is such a mess, it has to slip into anime territory with Steve just to keep trucking along in the goofiest ways imaginable. The DC doubling down on Wesker cheese was even worse. At that point the series was reduced to a cash cow with no real way onwards. No surprise they played the remake-and-prequel card after that, but Zero was a very clumsy way to break away from the norm and it was a disappointment.

It's very hard to replicate such a good package as RE4. The game really had everything. Most of all, it had better pacing and more variety than most games ever attempt. I can hardly remember a game with more surprises than RE4. RE5 isn't as balanced or varied, but above all, it isn't as fun.
 
The Non Romero Zombie said:
One of the better games in my opinion, is the second Revelations. Didn't fancy the first one too much. It was a bit, well. Meh!

But Barry kicks ass in that game. Claire isn't too shabby either. The story was interesting too, as it was about Albert Wesker's sister, Alex. Although the combat was average. Maybe that's why people didn't take to it. They originally released the game as episodes.
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Right on. Rev2 is awesome by any standard and it arguably showed that the series was worth staying excited for. I was done after RE6 even though I would have still bought the games. But as we all know, being excited for the future of something and simply sticking around are two completely different things.

I just wish Rev2 had online coop for the campaign, I think it has the best coop mechanics of any RE game. I love Barry's portrayal as well, they did such a good job with him.
 
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NeoIkaruGAF said:
Code Veronica showed Capcom was bored/clueless about RE at that point. Apart from the graphics, it's just a rehashing of old characters, tropes and situations with the obnoxiousness turned up to eleven. The story is such a mess, it has to slip into anime territory with Steve just to keep trucking along in the goofiest ways imaginable. The DC doubling down on Wesker cheese was even worse. At that point the series was reduced to a cash cow with no real way onwards. No surprise they played the remake-and-prequel card after that, but Zero was a very clumsy way to break away from the norm and it was a disappointment.

It's very hard to replicate such a good package as RE4. The game really had everything. Most of all, it had better pacing and more variety than most games ever attempt. I can hardly remember a game with more surprises than RE4. RE5 isn't as balanced or varied, but above all, it isn't as fun.
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For sure, as much as I love CVX for it's classic style gameplay and OST, the story is so incredibly dumb and cringe inducing. Completely removed any element of Western horror and went full on Anime nonsense.

Same with Zero. It should have been the Greek-tragedy of Bravo Team but instead we got edge lord Billy and singing leach queens. lmao. Japan just can't help themselves at times.

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