ElyrionX said:Dude, you're already off the mark. From MarkMacD's statement, it can be easily inferred that there is at least one 10 score among the scores for those games......
No, it can't

ElyrionX said:Dude, you're already off the mark. From MarkMacD's statement, it can be easily inferred that there is at least one 10 score among the scores for those games......
Mrbob said:I sense multiple 10s in the "holiday" issue.
What does that mean, anyway? A fancy name for the January issue or are we getting a 13th issue this year? That means subscribers are getting it too?
MarkMacD said:It means that now EGM comes out 13 times a year. And yup, subscribers get it too.
More work for us. BONOS for you!
Mrbob said:Why shouldn't MP2:E be knocked down for lacking in the multiplayer area?
Mrbob said:Did Rockstar take away resources to include a half assed seperate mode of multiplayer for their game? No.
Why should MP2:E get a free pass if it is lacking in the multiplayer department?
Mrbob said:Did Rockstar take away resources to include a half assed seperate mode of multiplayer for their game? No.
Or somehow does multiplayer become some sort of magical bonus for nintendo games?
How should I know, I'm not in touch with Rockstar? Are you?
I'll be the first to admit that I always thought including multiplayer in Metroid was pretty damn dumb from the very beginning, but it shouldn't negatively impact the game if the core single player campaign is solid and complete.
Well it depends on the game really. Multiplayer might be seen as an integral part of something like Mario Kart 64 (and should then be judged more harshly) but it's something of a bonus in games like Star Fox 64 (where any review focusing on multiplayer aspects is disingenious to the game's merit). I'd say Metroid probably falls more into the latter, multiplayer is a tacked on extra really, and not central to the basic game design or developer focus. It literally is a "bonus".Mrbob said:Or somehow does multiplayer become some sort of magical bonus for nintendo games?
Mrbob said:Why not? Those were resources taken away that could have been used to make a killer single player campaign even better.
Mrbob said:Did Rockstar take away resources to include a half assed seperate mode of multiplayer for their game? No.
Or somehow does multiplayer become some sort of magical bonus for nintendo games?
I'm certainly not saying ignore it thanks, I'm saying put focus on what's deserving. If Prime was being pushed as a multiplayer title, then that area should be given much more scrutiny... but really that's not the case. It's disingenoius to directly compare Prime 2's multiplayer to something like Halo 2 or Killzone and review the game overall accordingly, as clearly it's hardly being given the same resources there.Mrbob said:Listen, I'm not saying to lay the hammer down on MP2:E. Obviously one area must be weighted more than the other so single player should get the bulk I'm saying to take it into consideration while you guys are saying to ignore it.
Mrbob said:Why should MP2:E get a free pass if it is lacking in the multiplayer department?
I believe nintendo calls metroid a FPA(first person adventure) not FPS so i guess by nintendo's word it isn't competing with halo2Metroid series is a fps competing with Halo which has an amazing multiplayer.
Spike said:If the reviewer does their job correctly, then the only game that MP2 will be compared to will be MP1. Not Halo 2. Yes they can compare the single player side, and they can say that they wished there was an online mode for MP2, but it would be silly for them to deduct points because there is no online. Nintendo doesn't have any online titles, so to dock points for that would be stupid. MP2:E should be rated for a single-player game that happens to include a multiplayer bonus.
Goreomedy said:I remember MrBob getting all up in my ass for suggesting the complete focus on Halo 2 multiplayer at trade shows and in media for over two years, might not bode will for singleplayer.
I'm glad to see that, finally, he's come around to see things my way. High five, bud.
IJoel said:Hasn't Bungie always stated that the intent was to create a great single player game first?
Retro succeeded. I do not see your point.Goreomedy said:Hasn't Retro expressed the same?
Mrbob said:I wasn't even going to bring up Halo 2, but now that it is mentioned I can think of many very specific items why Halo 2 multiplayer is going to blow away (HA HA HA) MP2:E multiplayer. It's true.
Mrbob said:I wasn't even going to bring up Halo 2, but now that it is mentioned I can think of many very specific items why Halo 2 multiplayer is going to blow away (HA HA HA) MP2:E multiplayer. It's true.
Mrbob said:I wasn't even going to bring up Halo 2, but now that it is mentioned I can think of many very specific items why Halo 2 multiplayer is going to blow away (HA HA HA) MP2:E multiplayer. It's true.
Drinky Crow said:Metroid Prime is NOT Metroid; it's not even a good game. I'm certifiably smarter than you and even *I* know this.
Goreomedy said:Hasn't Retro expressed the same?
It is a trap. He is trying to spread his stupid.Spike said:Yes, it is Metroid, and yes it is a good game.
J2 Cool said:so when do you guys think this EGM issue will come in? They usually came at the end of the month for me but the Halo cover issue came in the middle of the month
Goreomedy said:You've invoked the name of Halo 2 in nearly every Half Life 2 and Metroid thread I've seen on this board. It was only a matter of time. You're a sick, sick man.
So, let's take your MP:E criticism and run with it. If Multiplayer IS half-assed in Echoes, and fully developed and dedicated in Halo 2, which game will suffer in the sinple player portion because of it ? Hmmmmm....
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Society said:It is a trap. He is trying to spread his stupid.
IJoel said:I think Metroid Prime 2 would've been fine merely as a single player game. I don't see why developers bothered with the multiplayer portion of it, as opposed to doing something like adding a co-op mode or something that would've fit better with the MP-style gameplay.
This is not saying MP2 Multiplayer will suck as it might be quite good and in the end it might be quite worthwhile. This is just a comment on what I personally expected of it. I would've been happy with a strong story-telling single player experience.
In a way it's like music albums. Some albums are great with 10 songs but adding 2 more songs that are not up to the quality of the album somehow dilutes the overall product. Yes, it's more for the buck, but does it make the game actually better? Once the cat's out of the bag, you better deliver, or expectations in terms of the quality expected for that portion of the product will fall short.
Drinky Crow said:Metroid Prime is NOT Metroid; it's not even a good game.
Drinky Crow said:I'm certifiably smarter than you and even *I* know this.
skip said:faulty analogy. more like an album with 10 songs (single player) plus two bonus live tracks (multiplayer) that don't detract from the original work.