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MVP was definitely the break-out star of 2007, and Edge definitely has the best pyro. But why am I debating about a WWE.com poll?
 
Aladuf23 said:
Here's another update on WWE HD:
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um.... USA has been in HD since like October... so I don't know what they mean "alongside". Unless they actually meant CW.

Well, if that's to be believed, then I am guessing ECW will go HD the same week Smackdown does being that USA and Sci-Fi should use the same uplink satellite. It also confirms what I was wondering, that WWE typically only uses one production unit.
 
Bold I agree with, italics I don't.

Superstar of the Year: Batista
Diva of the Year: Candice Michelle
Tag Team of the Year: Lance Cade and Trevor Murdoch
Match of the Year: Undertaker vs. Batista at WrestleMania 23
Newcomer of the Year: Santino Marella
Breakout Star of the Year: Hornswoggle
Announcer of the Year: JBL
Comeback of the Year: Rey Mysterio
Most Improved: Candice Michelle
Underrated Superstar of the Year: Jimmy Wang Yang
Rivalry of the Year: Matt Hardy vs. MVP
Best Mic Skills: Mr. Kennedy
Best Roster Swap: Mr. Kennedy To Raw
Overlooked Match of the Year: Mr. Kennedy vs. Jeff Hardy Raw 7/23
Best Match We Didn't Pay To See: John Cena vs. Shawn Michaels Raw 4/23
Jerk of the Year: Randy Orton
Bitch of the Year: Beth Phoenix
Best Finisher: CM Punk's "Go To Sleep"
Best Surprise: Chris Jericho's return to WWE :lol We really didn't get any sirprises, just funny that they count this as one.
Best Pyro: Bobby Lashley
Best Entrance: John Morrison
Best Makeover: Big Daddy V
Best PPV: WrestleMania 23
Best WWE Magazine Cover: Rey Mysterio 'Spiderman' cover
Most Realistic Raw vs. SmackDown 2008 character: Mick Foley
Funniest Moment: Santino Marella sings Amy Winehouse I disagree with this in principle.. santino and carlito were much funnier.. but it's still santino so I'll let it slide.
Worst Injury: John Cena
Shocker of the Year: Hornswoggle revealed as Mr. McMahon's son still lame though
Best T-Shirt: Hardys Illustrated shirt
Best Action Figure: Jeff Hardy Unmatched Fury Series 3
 
Maria reportedly set to be the latest Playboy cover girl around Mania. I may have to buy my first issue since the Ginger Spice one.
 
Superstar of the Year: Batista As much as I hate his character, this should be Edge.
Diva of the Year: Candice Michelle Either Beth Phoenix or Mickie James
Tag Team of the Year: Lance Cade and Trevor Murdoch
Match of the Year: Undertaker vs. Batista at WrestleMania 23
Newcomer of the Year: Santino Marella
Breakout Star of the Year: Hornswoggle What a joke this is. He hasn't even won a legit one on one match. MVP is the definite break-out star.
Announcer of the Year: JBL
Comeback of the Year: Rey Mysterio Didn't 'Taker come back in '07?
Most Improved: Candice Michelle I could either agree with her or Murdoch/Cade
Underrated Superstar of the Year: Jimmy Wang Yang Mr. Kennedy
Rivalry of the Year: Matt Hardy vs. MVP Or Undertaker vs. Batista
Best Mic Skills: Mr. Kennedy
Best Roster Swap: Mr. Kennedy To Raw
Overlooked Match of the Year: Mr. Kennedy vs. Jeff Hardy Raw 7/23
Best Match We Didn't Pay To See: John Cena vs. Shawn Michaels Raw 4/23
Jerk of the Year: Randy Orton
Bitch of the Year: Beth Phoenix
Best Finisher: CM Punk's "Go To Sleep" I never saw what was so great about his finisher. Then again, none are really that good.
Best Surprise: Chris Jericho's return to WWE
Best Pyro: Bobby Lashley
Best Entrance: John Morrison Still Undertaker
Best Makeover: Big Daddy V
Best PPV: WrestleMania 23
Best WWE Magazine Cover: Rey Mysterio 'Spiderman' cover Anything with the Divas is better
Most Realistic Raw vs. SmackDown 2008 character: Mick Foley
Funniest Moment: Santino Marella sings Amy Winehouse Anything with Santino is funny
Worst Injury: John Cena
Shocker of the Year: Hornswoggle revealed as Mr. McMahon's son Sadly
Best T-Shirt: Hardys Illustrated shirt
Best Action Figure: Jeff Hardy Unmatched Fury Series 3

Bold, I agree
Italics, I disagree
 
mightynine said:
Maria reportedly set to be the latest Playboy cover girl around Mania. I may have to buy my first issue since the Ginger Spice one.
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OMG Whats this? I will buy two...

giddy, giddy, giddy, giddy

The airbrush will ruin all
 
jobber said:
O_O


umm

Didn't Masters get fired? He was on Fight Network radio doing an interview after he got canned saying he was going to do some indy shows for a while.


and Cena > all of you

If you watch his DVD, his wrestling skills are there but due to the WWE's style of wrestling, he really can't use it. His gimmick is a brawler much like post-broken neck Austin. He had a great match with Umaga at Royal Rumble last year.




McMahon-HHH beef.
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I got mad respect for you brother going to bat for Cena with all of the dillusonal Cena hater fucktards.

John Cena is not the greatest wrestler in the world but i wouldnt call HHH any better then him, Cena carried triple h at wrestlemania 22.

Angle didnt do anything like bury Cena if anything he put Cena over.
 
Did anyone pick up "The Triumph and Tragedy of World Class Championship Wrestling" DVD? Care to give some impressions?
 
Cena has put on some of the most entertaining matches in the past couple of years including the Last Man Standing match against Umaga and that match against HBK on Raw early last year. He's no Angle, but he still has more skills than most people give him credit for.
 
finally got around to watching raw.

JBL and Jericho is going to be great.

Jeff Hardy still sounds weak on the mic, but he's gotten better, has crazy heat going into the royal rumble, and overall the whole promo and matt's return was pretty cool.

HHH vs. Flair was ok, not great. kind of stupid ending.

the women's triple threat was actually excellent.

umaga squashing hacksaw was a waste. and an insult to do it right after the promo of hacksaw winning the first RR. absolutely appalling. either they should have left the RR1 tribute to hacksaw out of there or had umaga squash someone else.

overall a pretty good raw actually.

I'm wondering if HHH is just taking time off from the RR, or if they are actually going to work a storyline in with him making a crucial appearance. I swear to god if the championship matches fue to interference from HHH... what a waste.
 
So, TNA and RAW are both coming to Austin in the next couple of months.

RAW is filming 2 episodes in one night (I might go to this), and TNA is doing a house show. The house show isnt at the Frank Erwin Center (basketball arena) that the WWE is allready at. Its not at the other smaller arenas in town either (austin city music hall, palmer events center).... it is at the Travis county expo center. Austin is in Travis county, so thats all well and good, but the expo center has 1 purpose in life, and that is the Travis country rodeo. Its also a 25 minute drive outside of the city (35-40 minutes from downtown). i.e. its in the boonies, much like you would expect a rodeo to be. Poor TNA :lol
 
"WARRIOR VIDEO COMMENTARY BEGINS JANUARY 2, 2008!!!

(Full access to "Warrior's Machete" reopens then.)"

^ he's late.
 
The Faceless Master said:
used to be more.
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The good ole days but piss poor WWE shows and TNA doing not much has turned this forum against them.

I do however like the Beat The Clock challenge.
You get a lot of hard hitting, fast paced matches.
 
The Faceless Master said:
so if edge has the fastest time, does he face himself?
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I was curious about that as well.
Like shouldn't he win so he doesn't have to fight? :lol

Also, I thought they would wait JBL/Jericho out.

Good show though.
Sets up their storyline into Mania (Taker/Edge most likely), the Rumble itself and a main event.
 
StoOgE said:
So, TNA and RAW are both coming to Austin in the next couple of months.

RAW is filming 2 episodes in one night (I might go to this), and TNA is doing a house show. The house show isnt at the Frank Erwin Center (basketball arena) that the WWE is allready at. Its not at the other smaller arenas in town either (austin city music hall, palmer events center).... it is at the Travis county expo center. Austin is in Travis county, so thats all well and good, but the expo center has 1 purpose in life, and that is the Travis country rodeo. Its also a 25 minute drive outside of the city (35-40 minutes from downtown). i.e. its in the boonies, much like you would expect a rodeo to be. Poor TNA :lol
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That will be the stinkiest wrestling show EVAR!
 
http://www.i-mockery.com/minimocks/warrior-xmas/

Didn't know if to post here or in comics thread but...

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Wow.
 
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TNA WORLD HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPIONSHIP
Kurt Angle vs. Christian Cage

ULTIMATE X MATCH FOR POSSESSION OF THE X CHAMPIONSHIP
The Motor City Machineguns and "Black Machismo" Jay Lethal vs. Team 3D and Johnny Devine

TNA TAG TEAM CHAMPIONSHIP
AJ Styles and Tomko vs. Samoa Joe and Kevin Nash

TNA WOMEN'S CHAMPIONSHIP
Gail Kim vs. Awesome Kong

MIXED TAG TEAM MATCH
Booker T and Sharmell vs. Robert Roode and Ms. Brooks

Abyss vs. Judas Mesias

Kaz vs. Black Reign

The Latin American Xchange vs. Lance Hoyt and Jimmy Raven w/ Christy Hemme
 
Tokyo Dome Results

1. THIS IS WAR! ~NONSTOP RISING~: Christian Cage, AJ Styles & Petey Williams beat Milano Collection AT, Minoru & Prince Devitt (10:25) when Styles used the Styles Clash on Milano.
2. IWGP Jr. Heavyweight Title: Wataru Inoue © beat Christopher Daniels (10:17) with a modified Staggerin' Blow (1st defense).
3. Japanese Muscle Monster vs. The American Monster: Manabu Nakanishi beat Abyss (6:00) with the Dai*Nakanishi German.
4. NEW JAPAN vs. The Alliance GROUND ZERO: Masato Tanaka(Zero-1),Tatsuhito Takaiwa(ZERO1-MAX), Yutaka Yoshie(DRADITION) & Katsushi Takemura(DRADITION) beat Takashi Iizuka, Koji Kanemoto, Tiger Mask & Ryusuke Taguchi (8:36) when Yoshie used a diving body press on Taguchi.
5. GET THE TABLE! GET THE HIGHEST! - Hardcore Match: Team 3D d. Togi Makabe & Toru Yano(13:12) when Devon pinned Makabe after the 3D.
6. ONE NIGHT STAND ~LEGEND vs. VBH~: Tatsumi Fujinami (DRADITION), Riki Choshu, Masahiro Chono, Jushin Thunder Liger & AKIRA beat Jado, Gedo, TARU, Shuji Kondo & "brother" YASSHI (7:18) when Choshu used a lariat on YASSHI.
7. Generation of Chaos: Great Muta(All Japan) beat Hirooki Goto (13:04) with a moonsault press.
8. IWGP Tag Team Title: Giant Bernard & Travis Tomko © beat Rick Steiner TNA Wrestling & Scott Steiner TNA Wrestling (12:50) (5th defense).
9. Final Resolution~REAL vs. Justice~IWGP 3rd Belt: Kurt Angle© beat Yuji Nagata (18:29) with an ankle lock.
10. IWGP Heavyweight Title: Shinsuke Nakamura beat Hiroshi Tanahashi © (20:00 min) with an avalanche-style Landslide to become the 48th champion.
 
JavyOO7 said:
Tokyo Dome Results

1. THIS IS WAR! ~NONSTOP RISING~: Christian Cage, AJ Styles & Petey Williams beat Milano Collection AT, Minoru & Prince Devitt (10:25) when Styles used the Styles Clash on Milano.
2. IWGP Jr. Heavyweight Title: Wataru Inoue © beat Christopher Daniels (10:17) with a modified Staggerin' Blow (1st defense).
3. Japanese Muscle Monster vs. The American Monster: Manabu Nakanishi beat Abyss (6:00) with the Dai*Nakanishi German.
4. NEW JAPAN vs. The Alliance GROUND ZERO: Masato Tanaka(Zero-1),Tatsuhito Takaiwa(ZERO1-MAX), Yutaka Yoshie(DRADITION) & Katsushi Takemura(DRADITION) beat Takashi Iizuka, Koji Kanemoto, Tiger Mask & Ryusuke Taguchi (8:36) when Yoshie used a diving body press on Taguchi.
5. GET THE TABLE! GET THE HIGHEST! - Hardcore Match: Team 3D d. Togi Makabe & Toru Yano(13:12) when Devon pinned Makabe after the 3D.
6. ONE NIGHT STAND ~LEGEND vs. VBH~: Tatsumi Fujinami (DRADITION), Riki Choshu, Masahiro Chono, Jushin Thunder Liger & AKIRA beat Jado, Gedo, TARU, Shuji Kondo & "brother" YASSHI (7:18) when Choshu used a lariat on YASSHI.
7. Generation of Chaos: Great Muta(All Japan) beat Hirooki Goto (13:04) with a moonsault press.
8. IWGP Tag Team Title: Giant Bernard & Travis Tomko © beat Rick Steiner TNA Wrestling & Scott Steiner TNA Wrestling (12:50) (5th defense).
9. Final Resolution~REAL vs. Justice~IWGP 3rd Belt: Kurt Angle© beat Yuji Nagata (18:29) with an ankle lock.
10. IWGP Heavyweight Title: Shinsuke Nakamura beat Hiroshi Tanahashi © (20:00 min) with an avalanche-style Landslide to become the 48th champion.
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I cant wait to get this whole show and give it a watch. Hopefully this relationship with NJPW pans out a bit more.
 
The Faceless Master said:
ULTIMATE X MATCH FOR POSSESSION OF THE X CHAMPIONSHIP
The Motor City Machineguns and "Black Machismo" Jay Lethal vs. Team 3D and Johnny Devine
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Just so I'm clear.
This is for possession of the belt and not the actual title again?
 
The Faceless Master said:
correct, Jay Lethal is the X Division Champion, but Team 3D has possession of the belt
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Did they ever give a reason why this isn't a title match. It's not like their are restrictions to being a X-division champion.
 
Outcast2004 said:
I cant wait to get this whole show and give it a watch. Hopefully this relationship with NJPW pans out a bit more.
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Kurt Angle vs Yuji Nagata
Part 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUeM0IGyWF4
Part 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L97Nde1fltE&feature=related
Part 3: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rvHTihe1gys&feature=related

Curry Man/Christopher Daniels vs Wataru Inoue
Part 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RjTEcJCVql8
Part 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gaots3aEoaM&feature=related

Great Muta vs Hirooki Goto
Part 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ijfND2a3EC8
Part 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y30e2F6u0to
Part 3: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9k2qZviYpts&feature=related

Team 3D vs Makabe & Yano
Part 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HVeU3J6RfHg&feature=user
Part 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hufAWSRM2FA&feature=user

Christian Cage/AJ Styles/Petey Williams vs Milano Collection AT/Minoru/Prince Devitt
Part 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74QsCckRZTc&feature=user
Part 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yb4zH5hUGyU&feature=related
 
Just got home from my first Live WWE event, OMG it was great! It was just a house show but man HHH just know how to put on a show! The place was on the hinges when he came out. I loved every minute of it and can't wait to be a part of a RAW live event!

DCX
 
JavyOO7 said:
Tokyo Dome Results

1. THIS IS WAR! ~NONSTOP RISING~: Christian Cage, AJ Styles & Petey Williams beat Milano Collection AT, Minoru & Prince Devitt (10:25) when Styles used the Styles Clash on Milano.
2. IWGP Jr. Heavyweight Title: Wataru Inoue © beat Christopher Daniels (10:17) with a modified Staggerin' Blow (1st defense).
3. Japanese Muscle Monster vs. The American Monster: Manabu Nakanishi beat Abyss (6:00) with the Dai*Nakanishi German.
4. NEW JAPAN vs. The Alliance GROUND ZERO: Masato Tanaka(Zero-1),Tatsuhito Takaiwa(ZERO1-MAX), Yutaka Yoshie(DRADITION) & Katsushi Takemura(DRADITION) beat Takashi Iizuka, Koji Kanemoto, Tiger Mask & Ryusuke Taguchi (8:36) when Yoshie used a diving body press on Taguchi.
5. GET THE TABLE! GET THE HIGHEST! - Hardcore Match: Team 3D d. Togi Makabe & Toru Yano(13:12) when Devon pinned Makabe after the 3D.
6. ONE NIGHT STAND ~LEGEND vs. VBH~: Tatsumi Fujinami (DRADITION), Riki Choshu, Masahiro Chono, Jushin Thunder Liger & AKIRA beat Jado, Gedo, TARU, Shuji Kondo & "brother" YASSHI (7:18) when Choshu used a lariat on YASSHI.
7. Generation of Chaos: Great Muta(All Japan) beat Hirooki Goto (13:04) with a moonsault press.
8. IWGP Tag Team Title: Giant Bernard & Travis Tomko © beat Rick Steiner TNA Wrestling & Scott Steiner TNA Wrestling (12:50) (5th defense).
9. Final Resolution~REAL vs. Justice~IWGP 3rd Belt: Kurt Angle© beat Yuji Nagata (18:29) with an ankle lock.
10. IWGP Heavyweight Title: Shinsuke Nakamura beat Hiroshi Tanahashi © (20:00 min) with an avalanche-style Landslide to become the 48th champion.
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Angle vs. Nagata was a let down. This should have been much better, but Angle kind of phoned it in and they basically played out Angle vs. Benoit #452 but with kicks instead of chops and zero intensity. Normally, Nagata would be kicking some faces in all match long, but w/e.

Nakamura vs. Tanahashi was not a great match technically, but was still enjoyable. Tanahashi is awesome as a pseudo heel and carried Nakamura throughout the entire thing. I'm still not sold on Nakamura though. Just can't buy into him.

Rest of the card was mehtastic. Not a match even worth mentioning in there. The crowd didn't buy into the TNA guys at all (sans Angle since he has the 3rd gen IWGP title [which isn't even recognized now]) and all of the matches fell flat.
 
Kintaro said:
Angle vs. Nagata was a let down. This should have been much better, but Angle kind of phoned it in and they basically played out Angle vs. Benoit #452 but with kicks instead of chops and zero intensity. Normally, Nagata would be kicking some faces in all match long, but w/e.

Nakamura vs. Tanahashi was not a great match technically, but was still enjoyable. Tanahashi is awesome as a pseudo heel and carried Nakamura throughout the entire thing. I'm still not sold on Nakamura though. Just can't buy into him.

Rest of the card was mehtastic. Not a match even worth mentioning in there. The crowd didn't buy into the TNA guys at all (sans Angle since he has the 3rd gen IWGP title [which isn't even recognized now]) and all of the matches fell flat.
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Yeah, I could tell throughout the matches that the crowd wasn't into TNA. But I believe if TNA continues their relationship with NJPW, maybe when their are other big shows throughout the year that TNA presence could be different. I'd hope anyway.

Though TNA has to fix that awful booking. . .

Haven't watched Nagata vs Angle yet and the IGWP Title bout. But I will say this about Nagata, his match against Giant Bernard was the shit.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hPaWIgYRRKo&feature=PlayList&p=B48517175F83B6EA&index=101
 
JavyOO7 said:
Yeah, I could tell throughout the matches that the crowd wasn't into TNA. But I believe if TNA continues their relationship with NJPW, maybe when their are other big shows throughout the year that TNA presence could be different. I'd hope anyway.

Though TNA has to fix that awful booking. . .

Haven't watched Nagata vs Angle yet and the IGWP Title bout. But I will say this about Nagata, his match against Giant Bernard was the shit.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hPaWIgYRRKo&feature=PlayList&p=B48517175F83B6EA&index=101
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It's so hard to tell with a Japanese crowd what they are into. The TNA guys were doing a very "american" style though, so that could be part of it.
 
Big Superstar possibly making an appearance on Raw tonight:

Source: WrestlingObserver.com

- WWE RAW creative team member Brian Gewirtz spoke with former WWE Champion John Cena this past Thursday about possibly making an appearance on tonight's edition of RAW. It is believed that Cena will do a live promo on tonight's show.
 
Aladuf23 said:
Big Superstar possibly making an appearance on Raw tonight:

Source: WrestlingObserver.com

- WWE RAW creative team member Brian Gewirtz spoke with former WWE Champion John Cena this past Thursday about possibly making an appearance on tonight's edition of RAW. It is believed that Cena will do a live promo on tonight's show.
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I sure hope not.
 
Aladuf23 said:
Big Superstar possibly making an appearance on Raw tonight:

Source: WrestlingObserver.com

- WWE RAW creative team member Brian Gewirtz spoke with former WWE Champion John Cena this past Thursday about possibly making an appearance on tonight's edition of RAW. It is believed that Cena will do a live promo on tonight's show.
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oh god no. spare us please.
 
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