Japanese tourists stricken by Paris Syndrome
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BaronLundi
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Steelrain said:
Is that a fact ? I was under the impression many other countries issued recommendations to leave and chartered planes so that they could, including Britain and the USA.
I was actually describing this to a classmate of mine (who had lived in France and was a French major) just last week. Funny that it would pop up now.
I imagine all the Japanese women going there hoping it will be like The Rose of Versailles and going into total shock when it's not.
I imagine all the Japanese women going there hoping it will be like The Rose of Versailles and going into total shock when it's not.
culturally specific psychiatric syndromes are interesting...
here is another favorite of mine from japan...
Koro: its about penises
here is another favorite of mine from japan...
Koro: its about penises
BaronLundi
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Simplet said:
Gotta be thick-skinned to be French on an English-speaking forum
To be fair, we frog-eating poultries pass along more than our share of stereotypes as well.
The coward thing has long gotten old though
Yes it's a fact that French people ran. It's also a fact that foreigners from everywhere ran. I guess it wouldn't be as funny to call everyone who did "American" or "British" *shrugs* I don't think it's funny either way.BaronLundi said:
I liked "fly-jin" though. That was pretty good.
BaronLundi
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Buttchin said:
Wasn't aware Lady Gaga toured there.
BaronLundi said:Gotta be thick-skinned to be French on an English-speaking forum
To be fair, we frog-eating poultries pass along more than our share of stereotypes as well.
The coward thing has long gotten old though
Honestly I don't even care that much what english and american people say, I mean we have a bit of back-and-forth with them, it's all more or less in good fun (I'm a little bit surprised sometime by how some of them seem to genuinely not like us, but eh).
What is starting to bother me now is how it seems that everywhere I go, people are trotting out those anglo-american made stereotypes. I feel like I have to defend myself from being french to all kinds of people from places that really shouldn't have all those prejudices in the first place. We don't have a history or a rivalry with them.
Kitsunebaby
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I could see how extreme rudeness might be a shock. I went to Japan for two weeks when I was 18 and spoke pretty much no Japanese. Everywhere I went people were extremely polite and accommodating even if we were unable to communicate. They were patient and did their best to help me order in restaurants and to find my way around.
Paris should be just as used to tourists as Tokyo. It astounds me that they would be rude or aggressive to people who want nothing more than to patronize them.
Paris should be just as used to tourists as Tokyo. It astounds me that they would be rude or aggressive to people who want nothing more than to patronize them.
I remember the first time I was called a rosbif. I couldn't understand if it was supposed to be complimentary or derogatory. It's like me calling you a 'Pain au chocolat' or something. Delicious foodstuffs do not make for good insults.Mael said:
Don't take the jibes to heart my French frères. We know you're a cool bunch really.
BaronLundi
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Simplet said:
It's annoying, true, but just think of the prejudices the very people you meet abroad might face when/if visiting France. It's best not to generalize one way or another.
Two weeks ago, I was in Rome with my gf and we met this American couple in a restaurant. After a bit of small talk, the guy asked me if it was true that us French hated the Americans. I'm always dumbfounded by these kind of questions, however frequent they are nowadays. "Of course, I hate the very sight of you, you imperialist Yankee scum. More chianti ?
By the way, are you sure there are actual countries that have no grudge or rivalry with us ? To be honest, I can't see that many...
BaronLundi
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SmokyDave said:
If you're in the south, call them "Chocolatine" or they won't get it
you clotted creamed scone you
Count Dookkake
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This is kinda like when a woman disappoints a white knight.
samus i am
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Count Dookkake said:
Yes. They go into shock and swear off all women for years.
Kong Fisso
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Lol at the restaurant managers hiring rude, non-English speakers in a tourism area. Now that's arrogant.
AlimNassor
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Meh, Paris was what I expected a big dirty city full of angry natives. It's the same thing I got when i went to new York City, I got mugged, yelled at, spit on, and everyone was rude to me, the city was a dirty slum too. Paris was no different. My friend made things worse by calling the French cowards at every turn, he won't shut up about it. Every minute it seemed like he was making a french joke. Every minute. He even mouthed off to some tough looking French dudes. He said "Watch I'll prove these guys are a bunch of cowards. They may look tough but they'll run away". They didn't, they nearly killed us. We had to run to a police station.
Big cities are pretty much always like that though. The nicest people are the ones living outside.
Big cities are pretty much always like that though. The nicest people are the ones living outside.
out0v0rder
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did they tip?
Pristine_Condition
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glaringradio said:
Wow. LOL
But it's so easy to put these morons in their place. Especially now with the situation of their economy. I personally have learned to love snapping back at taxi drivers, waiters, hotel staff etc. in France and Spain, which is almost as bad. I swear to God every time I visit Madrid I feel like I lose 5% of my hearing.
But if you're that sensitive, better visit South America or southeast Asia.
But if you're that sensitive, better visit South America or southeast Asia.
sasimirobot
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Japanese tourists are the worst.
I have had the pleasure of touring with them, in and out, of Japan. When I say "worst" I mean they are very polite, measure each step of the trip with the eye of a brain surgeon, and read every book on Indonesian wedding day ceremony "faux pas" as if their life depended on it.
What a fucked up sheltered little shit hole that place can be...oh wait...they are just rich Asians, that explains everything...
I have had the pleasure of touring with them, in and out, of Japan. When I say "worst" I mean they are very polite, measure each step of the trip with the eye of a brain surgeon, and read every book on Indonesian wedding day ceremony "faux pas" as if their life depended on it.
What a fucked up sheltered little shit hole that place can be...oh wait...they are just rich Asians, that explains everything...
SmokyDave said:
This is inaccurate. The rudest waiters in the world are in Paris. They are always men. The second rudest are in the center of Rome. Again, always men. But the aggression of Parisian men in the service industry is almost comical. As the article notes, folks from other Western countries can laugh it off, to a certain degree, but to pretend a typical English waiter would be that rude is didingenuous. Certainly he could be, but he's not likely to be, as is the case in Paris.
Everywhere else in France, I've found waiters to be either charming or normal. In Paris, they are dicks. It's like a city sport.
I speak French too. And Parisian waiters rejoice in mocking tourists. It is a cultural issue with the city and defending it as ignorance on the part of the tourists is tragic. Without tourism, Paris would be a shithole like Brussels or Dusseldorf. Tourism is why the parks and antiquities are still beautiful. Expecting tourists to speak the language is ignoring the very point of tourism.
Pristine_Condition said:
Edinburgh during Festival season is incredibe. I was born and raised there, so I am biased. But almost every public building, Church, hall and gathering place is hosting a play, a concert, a standup, a reading, an opera and so on. So he's literally got a point even just in terms of numerical force.
Our waiters are nice, but they serve mostly shit food so it's a wash.
MWS Natural
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Offer them a service job.jorma said:
BannedEpisode
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I've heard of this before. Its always kinda interested me.
As for the waiter thing, who cares? I'm a waiter over the summers and I dont mind at all if someone doesnt speak english. Its actually kind of fun.
I can get why that shit would be infuriating though if you are busy. Its not an easy job and one table can ruin your whole momentum if they slow you down needlessly.
As for the waiter thing, who cares? I'm a waiter over the summers and I dont mind at all if someone doesnt speak english. Its actually kind of fun.
I can get why that shit would be infuriating though if you are busy. Its not an easy job and one table can ruin your whole momentum if they slow you down needlessly.
ChubbyHuggs
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Isn't this pretty much just disappointment?
I had a pretty miserable time when I was in Paris two years ago. It is an absolutely beautiful city but holy shit the locals were fucking huge assholes to us. Eventually we had to start speaking in Spanish just so we could have a conversation where someone wasn't a dick to us. I'm from Texas though, so maybe I just expect everyone to be as nice as Texans are.AlimNassor said:
kyoya
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If one only surrounds themselves with "romanticized" fictional versions of the city they idealize the most from movies and TV shows, then they will surely be dissapointed. I could remember quite a few foreign anime fans who moved to Japan with visions of snowing sakura in their eyes only to bitterly leave after a year because Japan didn't live up to their anime-like expectations.
I am continuously bewildered by the fact Japanese want to visit Los Angles, NYC, all the big cities, etc and be dissapointed. It ain't a full-serviced Tokyo Disneyland with a constant welcome party. Smaller cities have much more to offer - it all depends on which city or town you choose.
In the end, there is no pleasing anyone, but sometimes big cities can suck, period. If your not prepared for the sounds, smells and sights then you'll deffinitly have a little bit of culture shock.
I am continuously bewildered by the fact Japanese want to visit Los Angles, NYC, all the big cities, etc and be dissapointed. It ain't a full-serviced Tokyo Disneyland with a constant welcome party. Smaller cities have much more to offer - it all depends on which city or town you choose.
In the end, there is no pleasing anyone, but sometimes big cities can suck, period. If your not prepared for the sounds, smells and sights then you'll deffinitly have a little bit of culture shock.
fizzelopeguss
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As an englishman i'd be very annoyed if i went to paris and DIDN'T have a dirty frenchie sneering and taunting at me all the time.
glaringradio
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Pristine_Condition said:
I take it you've been to Edinburgh and experienced everything the Fringe has to offer? What was your problem with it?
BaronLundi
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kamorra said:
I know ! I bought a shirt in Fiumicino two weeks ago (don't ask) and in a matter of minutes the clerk managed to tell me that there was no French style in clothing and that he still hadn't forgiven Zidane for what he did. WTF ? I'm entitled not to forgive him, you people should be thankful. He handed you the cup on a silver platter with his shiny little head after all. (Don't picture it).
I'm sorry but I really love Italy. We go there as soon as we can and I would like to live in Rome and eat nothing but fresh mozarella, fiori di zuchini, annd cacio y pepe. I had no bad experience with the waiters either.
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