Jennette McCurdy (iCarly) Dating Andre Drummond

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She's 19. Was that particular thread started before or after she turned 18?
 
I'm not sure where this Asian male can't get white women myth come from considering when adjusted by percent of population. Its the 2nd most likely interracial combination.

It isn't the second most likely absolutely, but it is the second most likely proportionally. These are relative comparisons. Asians in general marry outside their race more often than Hispanics, for example, but examined more closely, Asian women do much better than men in this arena. Why is that?

When it comes to black interracial marriage (Which is, again, the least likely group to marry outside their race for either men or women), we all seem to agree that the reason for that is racism. However, within the black community, black men are more successful than black women at marrying outside their race. Again, why is that? Because the answer can no longer be racism. We've controlled for that variable.
 
It isn't the second most likely absolutely, but it is the second most likely proportionally. These are relative comparisons. Asians in general marry outside their race more often than Hispanics, for example, but examined more closely, Asian women do much better than men in this arena. Why is that?

When it comes to black interracial marriage (Which is, again, the least likely group to marry outside their race for either men or women), we all seem to agree that the reason for that is racism. However, within the black community, black men are more successful than black women at marrying outside their race. Again, why is that? Because the answer can no longer be racism. We've controlled for that variable.

How can the answer no longer be racism? Racism is more multifaceted and different based on gender assumptions/stereotypes.
 
How can the answer no longer be racism? Racism is more multifaceted and different based on gender assumptions/stereotypes.

Because racism is specifically a variable of race. For example, if black women are discriminated against more than black men, then something more than racism must be going on. It might be (for example) a combination of racism and sexism, or racism and cultural biases. By comparing White men and white women, or asian men and asian women, or jewish men and jewish women, we control race as a variable and can more readily examine other biases like sexism and standards of beauty.
 
Because racism is specifically a variable of race. For example, if black women are discriminated against more than black men, then something more than racism must be going on. It might be (for example) a combination of racism and sexism, or racism and cultural biases.

So would you prefer people apply the broader term of "discrimination" because there's your answer but that's what they were getting at. Discrimination outwards and inwards, and it affects the genders differently.
 
Did you read my response which mentioned you specifically?

Yes, but they you asked the same question, as if it wasn't already answered, 3 posts later...???

Asian women do much better than men in this arena. Why is that?

A big part of it is Asian attitudes of race and culture and not white attitudes of race and culture and the pressure to adhere to tradition is much stronger on Asian males than on Asian females.
 
So would you prefer people apply the broader term of "discrimination" because there's your answer but that's what they were getting at. Discrimination outwards and inwards, and it affects the genders differently.

Discrimination is applicable, but also less specific precisely because it's so broad. The goal is to get as specific as possible to pinpoint precisely what is going wrong.

If I just said, "some people are discriminated against," that's such a vague, post-modernish statement as to lack any insight and applicability.
 
Yes, but they you asked the same question, as if it wasn't already answered, 3 posts later...???

I responded to several people, as I was in class and could only respond right now. That was my answer to him, and not to soundscream or you. Obviously I read the responses if I mentioned your point specifically and nominally in another post.

A big part of it is Asian attitudes of race and culture and not white attitudes of race and culture and the pressure to adhere to tradition is much stronger on Asian males than on Asian females.

Yes, once again, this is a good point and an interesting insight I'm not personally privy to. It wouldn't explain, however, the disparities we see in other races, which is why I think there is still more going on here. There are typically many variables at play with social phenomena this complex.
 
been crushing on Jennette McCurdy forever but I always thought she was gay. pleasant surprise. can I get a spring breakers 2 with her in the main role hah.
 
So if black men are more prone to interracial relationships than black women, could another variable be a correlation with the black male's income and interracial relationship probability? There seems to be, but I'm not going to assume what I see in the media without hard data. Obviously Jennette has plenty of money so this case does not follow the perceived trend

No, actually. This is very counterintuitive, but black men earn considerably less than do black women on average and yet are much more likely to marry outside their race.

It doesn't mean that people don't care about the income of their potential spouses (quite a bit of evidence suggests that people very much do). It suggests instead that other variables are counteracting and even overwhelming that variable.
 
wow cool post.

i worded that horribly.

No, actually. This is very counterintuitive, but black men earn considerably less than do black women and yet are much more likely to marry outside their race.

It doesn't mean that people don't care about the income of their potential spouses (quite a bit of evidence suggests that people very much do). It suggests instead that other variables are counteracting and even overwhelming that variable.

So certain variables have different levels of strength. Money, race, height, symmetry, etc. are all variables, and certain women/men will put higher emphasis on particular variables, but others will have different preferences. But as with all averages, I'm sure one of those variables "wins" compared to the others, but person to person it will still vary
 
No, actually, I live in Pittsburgh. I'm surprised everybody doesn't know by now with how much I complain about it here. Of course the south is just as bad, you're right, if not much worse, but the amount of aggression up here is surprisingly high and widespread throughout; and a lot of it is more direct than you'd like to imagine.

Pittsburgh racism is still spillover from Pennsyltucky. When folks from KY and TN move "north" they either go there or Ohio. I'd definitely understand Pittsburgh can be just as bad.
 
been crushing on Jennette McCurdy forever but I always thought she was gay. pleasant surprise to see the contrary. can I get a spring breakers 2 with her in the main role hah.
 
Did you read anything that was written in response to you on the last page?

I wouldn't say this is true at all. At least for Indians. If girls in my culture do not marry within the race, **** will go down. Guys can basically do what they want as long as they are convincing enough. I know that may not make sense seeing as some of these families really care about their last name being carried on..so you'd assume they'd care more about who the boy marries, but in my experience, they don't care about the boys. My lack of success within my town had nothing to do with me being scared of what my parents thought.
 
Strength, his size, her weight/size. Try throwing around a larger woman.

I weigh over 200. I've thrown a girl who weighed over a deuce pretty easily, but in a clothed capacity.
 
Can't be bothered reading every page of this thread so this has probably been said before, but I just don't see how couples with that level of height difference can work. Even kissing must be difficult, let alone sex. I realise that lasses dig taller guys, but there's got to be some level where being physically intimate just becomes insanely impractical. That said, I'm pretty short so read into that what you will.
 
No, actually. This is very counterintuitive, but black men earn considerably less than do black women on average and yet are much more likely to marry outside their race.

It doesn't mean that people don't care about the income of their potential spouses (quite a bit of evidence suggests that people very much do). It suggests instead that other variables are counteracting and even overwhelming that variable.

Another part of the story is that the more successful the black man is the higher the chances of him being involved in an interracial relationship. Hence many successful black women are choosing to remain single because they don't feel like they should have to settle for a man who hasn't reached the same level as success as them. Which leads to the stereotype that black women are to demanding.
 
So certain variables have different levels of strength. Money, race, height, symmetry, etc. are all variables, and certain women/men will put higher emphasis on particular variables, but others will have different preferences. But as with all averages, I'm sure one of those variables "wins" compared to the others, but person to person it will still vary

That's the idea, yes. Guy A may have more money but be shorter, while Guy B may have less money but be taller. Ceteris Paribus (i.e. proper scientific controls and blinding methods), this would allow us to determine which variable is more important and to what degree if sample size is large enough.

Making more money is a well known, strong determinant of mate selection. In this case, other variables are overwhelming the importance of income, however.
 
Again, why is that? Because the answer can no longer be racism. We've controlled for that variable.

it comes down to who's doing the asking. I wouldn't say it's any one thing. A number of factors act against people outside of the black race asking to date inside the race that affect the general population. Lack of contact, lack of sexual imagery representing black women, stigma against black women, fear of the unknown.

That would affect black men except a lot of those things don't apply to black men, and men aren't waiting to be asked out.
 
Another part of the story is that the more successful the black man is the higher the chances of him being involved in an interracial relationship. Hence many successful black women are choosing to remain single because they don't feel like they should have to settle for a man who hasn't reached the same level as success as them. Which leads to the stereotype that black women are to demanding.

This makes sense, thanks soundscream.

Adding my own tidbit of knowledge: people of all races who are higher achievers are actually more likely to marry outside their race. The easiest explanation for this: people who are high achievers tend to go to college, and college is typically a place where propinquity with other races and peoples is common. People who never reach out to get an education are also are less likely to reach outside their neighborhood generally. Multiculturalism and education have a strong correlative link.
 
Warmed that bench like it's never been warmed before, amirite?
I'll have you know the only mistake I made on that field was showboating. My last touchdown of the game I even danced like an egyptian. I got cocky and blew out my ankle on the next play. Since then I've learned to be humble. You should try it some time.
 
I love interracial couples; my last ex was Indian/Guyanese/Filipino, fucking gorgeous mix, we were both brown but we had our distinction ethnically. I always draw back on the reality that I'm with someone of vastly different ethnicity, shit wouldn't have happened 60 years ago.

Thank You America.
 
I love interracial couples; my last ex was Indian/Guyanese/Filipino, fucking gorgeous mix, we were both brown but we had our distinction ethnically. I always draw back on the reality that I'm with someone of vastly different ethnicity, shit wouldn't have happened 60 years ago.

Thank You America.

Shit wouldn't have happened 50 years ago.
 
I'll have you know the only mistake I made on that field was showboating. My last touchdown of the game I even danced like an egyptian. I got cocky and blew out my ankle on the next play. Since then I've learned to be humble. You should try it some time.

Good thing Mr. Strickland saved you from the jeans store to find your true love. Sweet Lady Propane.
 
They make a good looking couple. Going all in on instagram pays off. Also, the fuck is shady talking about



Side note, Taye Diggs and Idina Menzel are like the happiest couple ever

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Stay happy, you happy motherfuckers.
 
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