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Opiate said:
Okay, then why are Asian men considerably less successful at finding white women than White men are at finding Asian women?
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As an Asian dude married to a white woman, I can tell you that I think it's not a matter of "less successful" as it is familial pressure to marry an Asian girl.

Like many Asian cultures (including Indian sub-continent), there are strong expectations by first generation parents on the role of a wife in a family unit and there are strong expectations on sons to follow traditions (much more so than women) as sons are seen as carrying the family name and legacy.

I can see the culture clash sometimes with my wife and family (don't get me wrong, we all get along fine, but there is definitely a gap in expectations -- even very basic stuff like food can be a challenge!). Because Asians are really the last migrant group to move to the US, there are still very strong ties to Asian traditions by first generation immigrants and a lot of pressure from parents. Many first generation Asians will actively discourage their sons from dating outside of their race (Asians are pretty racist people :D)

This is not just Taiwanese or Chinese, but also applies to Indians. I have had Indian friends who were told by their parents that they would not accept a non-Indian boyfriend (knew a mixed couple that eventually broke up because of this).
 
This look like me and my girlfriend. I'm not super tall and pretty jacked(6'0) but she is 4'8...not a midget. and 90 lbs.

We get a ton of people staring wherever we go. Occasionally we get weird dirty looks like we offended someone. It happened this weekend.

edit: oh...that's not the subject of the thread any more.
 
Devolution said:
When he's huge and you're small oh lawd the gymnastics and tossing. So fun.
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Isn't that strength? There are plenty of tall weaklings and vice versa.
 
blackflag said:
This look like me and my girlfriend. I'm not super tall and pretty jacked(6'0) but she is 4'8...not a midget. and 90 lbs.

We get a ton of people staring wherever we go. Occasionally we get weird dirty looks like we offended someone. It happened this weekend.
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Better to be safe than sorry with Amber Alerts.
 
Dram said:
Why is there a thread in Spanish on that kind of site?
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CharlieDigital said:
As an Asian dude married to a white woman, I can tell you that I think it's not a matter of "less successful" as it is familial pressure to marry an Asian girl.

Like many Asian cultures (including Indian sub-continent), there are strong expectations by first generation parents on the role of a wife in a family unit and there are strong expectations on sons to follow traditions (much more so than women) as sons are seen as carrying the family name and legacy.

I can see the culture clash sometimes with my wife and family (don't get me wrong, we all get along fine, but there is definitely a gap in expectations -- even very basic stuff like food can be a challenge!). Because Asians are really the last migrant group to move to the US, there are still very strong ties to Asian traditions by first generation immigrants and a lot of pressure from parents. Many first generation Asians will actively discourage their sons from dating outside of their race (Asians are pretty racist people :D)

This is not just Taiwanese or Chinese, but also applies to Indians. I have had Indian friends who were told by their parents that they would not accept a non-Indian boyfriend (knew a mixed couple that eventually broke up because of this).
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I think this right here is it. My wife is Chinese and her parents weren't happy about her marrying me but they would have thrown a fit if her brother married a white girl.
 
CharlieDigital said:
As an Asian dude married to a white woman, I can tell you that I think it's not a matter of "less successful" as it is familial pressure to marry an Asian girl.

Like many Asian cultures (including Indian sub-continent), there are strong expectations by first generation parents on the role of a wife in a family unit and there are strong expectations on sons to follow traditions (much more so than women) as sons are seen as carrying the family name and legacy.

I can see the culture clash sometimes with my wife and family (don't get me wrong, we all get along fine, but there is definitely a gap in expectations -- even very basic stuff like food can be a challenge!). Because Asians are really the last migrant group to move to the US, there are still very strong ties to Asian traditions by first generation immigrants and a lot of pressure from parents. Many first generation Asians will actively discourage their sons from dating outside of their race (Asians are pretty racist people :D)

This is not just Taiwanese or Chinese, but also applies to Indians. I have had Indian friends who were told by their parents that they would not accept a non-Indian boyfriend (knew a mixed couple that eventually broke up because of this).
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it seems to me that South Asians prefer to marry someone with the same background as well.
 
I heard that both Male Asians and Black Women where considered the less date able.

I don't remember which TV program it was. Male Asians had become more desirable lately thanks to the popularity of South Korean music and soap operas.

In a reality show a Black Man was cornered by her female black friends and they harassed him asking him why he dated exclusively white woman. His answer was "White Woman are more adventurous".

He said that with a White Girl you can go camping, you can go skydiving, Hiking etc... They gave him shit for it but he then told them if they wanted to go Hiking, and they cut to a silly montage of the black girls complaining the whole time. It was a reality show.
 
I'm 6'3" and recently went on a date with a girl that's 4'10". By the end of the night my neck was sore from looking down so much. It kind of sucked. We probably looked awkward as fuck holding hands.
 
akira28 said:
With bw/wm pairings it's almost an afterthought. There's an undercurrent of, 'these women are undesirables', where in reverse it's 'the undesirables are taking our women'. So factors suppress even thinking about it. And when it does occur, it's still a 'more power to him/them' situation, where as a dominant social class member, low chances anyone is going to call him a race traitor, or comment on how he's less desirable now. It's less about permissibility than active choice. He's exerting his will, doing what he wants in life, and it isn't seen as an encroachment or revenge against white people or her getting back at her father or any of the things that get said or thought about bm\ww pairings. He just wants to date a black woman and none can say anything against him. In fact he's a better man for it. No one looks at the black guy and says "well I guess he's obviously not a racist". He's conquering white women with his violent sex powers.

And no one gives a damn what the black man thinks. He could cherish her like a flower, but to the world it's all about King Kong. Black women and white men, they've just "found love in a world set against them". That's the image on repeat in the minds of the world. Sex dynamics also come into play, who is the usual initiator, who would be more receptive, etc. And back to exposure, black women get very little of it. White women are the focus in bm\ww. And I think with bw\wm, that men play the primary, and at least subconsciously, we assume she wasn't the initiator. In the opposite, the initiator is less relevant than the fact that the white woman allows the relationship to happen.

In other words, I blame television, and society.
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What you and Angelus Errare both described is accurate, however the only thing I disagree with is the belief that wm/bw couples are more socially accepted due to the white man being "in control" and "exerting his will"-- I'm sure it depends on what "society" you refer to as far as locale, but from personal experience, I get hate and aggression/rudeness from white people that rivals anything I've ever seen. It's a betrayel, an insult to our race, and they view me just as black as she is, and most times worse. The worst offenders are single white women in my age group, who view her as a threat and me almost as a criminal. It's gotten to the point that we're both leaving our state because of the attitudes and actions of primarily white people in our area, (we wanted to move anyway, but this was the driving force to make it happen.)

Of course, it could be because we live in a really racist city, as I don't experience this sort of thing as much elsewhere (in D.C., for example, it's pretty much nonexistent) but it still happens. We hardly ever trek out of close city limits, we used to go to restaurants in the suburban areas more frequently than now, but there were more than a few times where a table of middle aged (or worse, older) white men would stare both of us down to the point of starting an altercation.
 
Kinyou said:
I wonder if his dick size is proportional to his height. Because if not, and if he has just an average one, it would probably look absolutely tiny on him.
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I basically said the same thing a couple of pages back:

IceCold said:
Imagine being that tall with small to average dick. It must look tiny. At the same time if your dick size is proportional to your height and you're fucking a girl half your size, then foreplay must last hours.
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A 5 inch dick on this man would look like a micro penis.
 
Devil Theory said:
What you and Angelus Errare both described is accurate, however the only thing I disagree with is the belief that wm/bw couples are more socially accepted due to the white man being "in control" and "exerting his will"-- I'm sure it depends on what "society" you refer to as far as locale, but from personal experience, I get hate and aggression/rudeness from white people that rivals anything I've ever seen. It's a betrayel, an insult to our race, and they view me just as black as she is, and most times worse. The worst offenders are single white women in my age group, who view her as a threat and me almost as a criminal. It's gotten to the point that we're both leaving our state because of the attitudes and actions of primarily white people in our area, (we wanted to move anyway, but this was the driving force to make it happen.)

Of course, it could be because we live in a really racist city, as I don't experience this sort of thing as much elsewhere (in D.C., for example, it's pretty much nonexistent) but it still happens. We hardly ever trek out of close city limits, we used to go to restaurants in the suburban areas more frequently than now, but there were more than a few times where a table of middle aged (or worse, older) white men would stare both of us down to the point of starting an altercation.
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A WhiteMan/BlackWoman couple got beat up by a group of white people here in new york. Manhattan specifically(Wtf) So I definitely believe what you are saying.
 
Devil Theory said:
What you and Angelus Errare both described is accurate, however the only thing I disagree with is the belief that wm/bw couples are more socially accepted due to the white man being "in control" and "exerting his will"-- I'm sure it depends on what "society" you refer to as far as locale, but from personal experience, I get hate and aggression/rudeness from white people that rivals anything I've ever seen. It's a betrayel, an insult to our race, and they view me just as black as she is, and most times worse. The worst offenders are single white women in my age group, who view her as a threat and me almost as a criminal. It's gotten to the point that we're both leaving our state because of the attitudes and actions of primarily white people in our area, (we wanted to move anyway, but this was the driving force to make it happen.)

Of course, it could be because we live in a really racist city, as I don't experience this sort of thing as much elsewhere (in D.C., for example, it's pretty much nonexistent) but it still happens. We hardly ever trek out of close city limits, we used to go to restaurants in the suburban areas more frequently than now, but there were more than a few times where a table of middle aged (or worse, older) white men would stare both of us down to the point of starting an altercation.
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I am guessing you're in the southern states? Down there, there is still a social mechanism where everyone must conform, white, black, etc. And they will use their silent 'shame stares' or cold shoulders to make you uncomfortable enough that you conform or you leave. In my bm/ww relationships, I get looks, but I seek eye contact too. But with my white friends who have dated black women, they say they only get shade from random black men. Guys trying to challenge them or something, but none of the 'you're white, you should stick to white people' looks from society at large(other white people). They do hear extremely ignorant comments though about black women from white friends.

Hah, my one girlfriend would start a fight at the drop of a hat. With anybody. Legit ride or die....but she's crazy though.

IGSaint said:
A WhiteMan/BlackWoman couple got beat up by a group of white people here in new york. Manhattan specifically(Wtf) So I definitely believe what you are saying.
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Huh...seriously wtf.
 
akira28 said:
Huh...seriously wtf.
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http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2013/08/interracial-couple-attacked-in-lic.html
New York's depressing new hate-crime trend continued early Saturday morning as an interracial couple was attacked outside a Long Island City bar. NBC New York reports that Billie (who is black) and Jacob (who is white) James-Vogel and a gay friend were leaving Billie's 40th-birthday celebration at a place called Shi around 1:30 a.m. when three men in a nearby car started shouting racist and homophobic slurs at them. Jacob told NBC that when he asked the men why they were yelling, they pushed him to the ground and punched him repeatedly. "And while I was laying on the ground covering my face, I got to watch them shove my wife to the ground without being able to help her," said Jacob, who ended up with a black eye and an injured head. Billie was left with bruises and broken toes. "When I think about the slurs, the N-word and the F-word, it hurts ... It breaks my heart," she said.

The couple told NY1 that after the cops left the scene, one of their assailants bizarrely and terrifyingly returned and pretended to be a police officer while they waited in an ambulance. "The EMT drivers didn't let him into the ambulance," Jacob said. "They then followed him and called the police." Twenty-eight-year-old Nikolaos Katsos was arrested and charged with assault and harassment, though those charges "could be upgraded." The other guys are still out there.
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Kinyou said:
I wonder if his dick size is proportional to his height. Because if not, and if he has just an average one, it would probably look absolutely tiny on him.
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Many groupies have posted online that Shaq has a 6 inch penis. Not just one report, several. Nothing proportional about that.
 
I'm not sure where this Asian male can't get white women myth come from considering when adjusted by percent of population. Its the 2nd most likely interracial combination.
 
ccbfan said:
I'm not sure where this Asian male can't get white women myth come from considering when adjusted by percent of population. Its the 2nd most likely interracial combination.
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I can actually kind of echo what a couple people said above. One of my best friends is Vietnamese and he's told me that his parents would not be happy if he dated outside his race at all.

At one point I dated a Korean girl though and her parents where way cool to me. Who knows.

According to wikipedia the most common marriages are WM/AW followed by BM/WW. I'm kind of surprised actually at how uncommon it still is overall though.
 
Mr. Nobody said:
creepy gaf is dead and should stay dead and gaf has got to stop with those "Looking good" threads
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Fuck that. She's way too good for Creepy GAF.

(but yes, also there was a thread about this like less than a week ago that quickly became a pic thread and it got locked fast)
 
Trey said:
It's just...how can people think and say most of the stuff that exists on that forum? It's so sickening.
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I've gotten to the point where unless it's something that's relatively big and seemingly constant (one week a few years ago there was a bunch of racist news pretty much every other day) to upset me. But for things like this? I enjoy the salt so much.
 
All the Asian dudes I know have mad game with white women to the point where I actually take notice when I see a asian male/asian female couple
 
akira28 said:
I am guessing you're in the southern states? Down there, there is still a social mechanism where everyone must conform, white, black, etc. And they will use their silent 'shame stares' or cold shoulders to make you uncomfortable enough that you conform or you leave. In my bm/ww relationships, I get looks, but I seek eye contact too. But with my white friends who have dated black women, they say they only get shade from random black men. Guys trying to challenge them or something, but none of the 'you're white, you should stick to white people' looks from society at large(other white people). They do hear extremely ignorant comments though about black women from white friends.
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No, actually, I live in Pittsburgh. I'm surprised everybody doesn't know by now with how much I complain about it here. Of course the south is just as bad, you're right, if not much worse, but the amount of aggression up here is surprisingly high and widespread throughout; and a lot of it is more direct than you'd like to imagine.
 
ccbfan said:
I'm not sure where this Asian male can't get white women myth come from considering when adjusted by percent of population. Its the 2nd most likely interracial combination.
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I'd love to see where you're pulling that data from, because I've never seen that before. Its a rare pairing on the East Coast, at least in NYC or the D.C. Metro area, compared to White male / Asian female couples.
 
ccbfan said:
I'm not sure where this Asian male can't get white women myth come from considering when adjusted by percent of population. Its the 2nd most likely interracial combination.
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Anecdotal..but I grew up in a 90%+ white town in the northeast, and if I had a dollar for every time I heard a girl say, "he's/you're good looking for an Indian..", I would be filthy rich. I consider myself to be a personable and all around good guy, but I definitely didn't have as much pull with girls in my town as my other, comparable friends in high school.
 
soundscream said:
I was referring to looks in that regard because you asked why a black man wouldn't have the same problems as a black women in regards to attractiveness.

But as far as the scope of dating you will have more success if you possess traits that are desirable. With men its easier to attract a women if you are tall, and physically fit.

There are always other factors such as personality and wealth, but having the desired physical traits just makes it easier.

And to dive further into the Asian man White women percentages, do Asian men have the same issues when it comes to standards of beauty? Asian women tend to be fetishized by white men, so they are seen as desirable by society.
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I think this is essentially what I was concluding (And seems to be your conclusion at this point). I'm not suggesting in the slightest that racism doesn't exist; both black men and black women are still less likely to marry outside their race than hispanics or asians or whites. But within the races, we can see some differences; black women seem to be less popular than black women, while asian men seem to be less popular than asian women.

I suggest that black men and asian women happen to appeal to current archetypes of beauty more; women are to be small and fair, men to be tall and large. Given those basic aesthetic values, asian men and black women are going to fall outside the archetype in a way that asian women and black men do not.

There are lots of other factors going on here, of course. Large scale social statistical aberrations are virtually never the consequence of a single variable. Racism is one, as already mentioned; I think CharlieDigital brought up a very good point too. But I think in this specific arena, black women are at a larger disadvantage than black men are due to current standards of beauty which frequently exclude them.

These standards are not universal, though, and could change over the decades and certainly over the centuries.
 
Ryu1999 said:
I'd love to see where you're pulling that data from, because I've never seen that before. Its a rare pairing on the East Coast, at least in NYC or the D.C. Metro area, compared to White male / Asian female couples.
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I know at least 5 couples including my brother and best friend. Anecdotal evidence must be useless.
 
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