Jeremy Renner = the new Matt Damon/Tom Cruise in Bourne Legacy and Mission Impossible

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GuitarAtomik said:
You sure that was a real thing? I'm pretty sure Craig was only rumored when people thought Donald Blake was going to be a part of the movie. Seeing the direction they're taking, I seriously doubt they ever considered Craig as Thor.
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Craig has mentioned that Marvel approached him regarding Thor in the past.

Screen Rant said:
Sanchez asked Craig if he would be up for trying something new and different in a character role such as Thor and he laughed it off. Sanchez then told him she had heard that Craig was on Marvel’s shortlist to play Thor.

In response, Mr. Craig, Daniel Craig, revealed that Marvel indeed had already approached him for this role and he had turned it down. He jokingly clarified that it would be too much of a power trip playing both James Bond and the mighty Thor.
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In the actual interview he talks about not wanting to play Thor because of what would have been concurrent work on Bond. He also jokes about having to bulk up a bit. Of course, any preliminary talks he had with Marvel were far from final decisions. It's just an interesting insight into how Craig views conflicting role selection.


otake said:
Renner was pretty bad in The Town. Both of these franchises have been dead to me for some time. Mission Impossible never returned to the first movie's quality. The Bourne films we're all pretty weak from the getgo and got progressively worse with the enhancement of shaking cam.

Seems like a sub par actor is doing a bunch of sub par movies. The transformers crowd will eat it up.
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...the fuck you talking about bro? Renner was great in The Town. Not a particularly good movie overall, but Renner was great. He was great in Hurt Locker and he was great in The Assassination of Jesse James, the latter of which he could have easily been eclipsed by any number of amazing performances (Rockwell, Casey Affleck, Pitt). But he more than held his own. He's a serious talent.
 
Pickles the Firecat said:
...the fuck you talking about bro? Renner was great in The Town. Not a particularly good movie overall, but Renner was great. He was great in Hurt Locker and he was great in The Assassination of Jesse James, the latter of which he could have easily been eclipsed by any number of amazing performances (Rockwell, Casey Affleck, Pitt). But he more than held his own. He's a serious talent.
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I've only seen The Town, going by that; I'm not impressed. For me, a great performance leaves a mark. I remember something about it, a line, something, doesn't matter wether it's a supportive role or the main. I got nothing from Renner in the town. I only remember him dying.

Compare that to say Ray Liotta in Goodfellas, Al Pacino in scent of a woman, Christian Bale in The Fighter, Jack Nicholson in As Good as it Gets, etc. Looking cool and crazy does not make a great performance.
 
RustyNails said:
If Renner was a little taller, he'd make an excellent Bond as well.
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I've got no issues with Renner, he's a good actor. Heck he's one of the few monster of the week actors that stuck out and stayed memorable from Angel.
 
Well, this isn't an offensive choice as long as it's true. He's kind of an unlikeable guy to me, Bourne had somewhat of an innocent look to him, despite being a killer and capable of crazy things. There was kind of a softer side to him, and I don't know that Renner has shown that yet. I can see him being able to handle the action side of things just fine though. Greengrass isn't directing, is he?
 
I hope he doesnt die, in most of his movies I notice he dies (swat,28 weeks later)

I love the dude but I dont know what I think of a new bourne without Damon, bad idea imo but hey it can turn out awesome... I hope.
 
After seeing Gyllenhaal in Source Code, I think he could play a Bourne-like character.
That may seem like a stretch for some, but then 10 years ago I'd never have been able to imagine Damon playing a character like Bourne either...
 
As far as I'm aware, the Bourne character wont actually be in the film, they've said they are keeping that role open for whenever Damon decides to return to the franchise.
 
Aklamarth said:
No fucking way. That dude has the charisma of a bus.
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Agreed. Maybe he is just a great actor and it’s the roles I've seen him in, but I hated him in The Hurt Locker and The Town. Is it in fact confirmed that he is taking over for Tom Cruise after MI4? This is the first I've heard of that.
 
They can't possibly try and sell him off as Jason Bourne in a new move. That would be horrible.

They could however, play up the Treadstone angle and make him just another government weapon, who's seen the light, and left the reserve - that would be fine.
 
otake said:
Renner was pretty bad in The Town. Both of these franchises have been dead to me for some time. Mission Impossible never returned to the first movie's quality. The Bourne films we're all pretty weak from the getgo and got progressively worse with the enhancement of shaking cam.

Seems like a sub par actor is doing a bunch of sub par movies. The transformers crowd will eat it up.
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Ludicrous talk.. The Bourne movies moved from pertty compelling to very gripping as they found their shape as pieces of pure film, pure movement, form as content and art.
 
otake said:
I've only seen The Town, going by that; I'm not impressed. For me, a great performance leaves a mark. I remember something about it, a line, something, doesn't matter wether it's a supportive role or the main. I got nothing from Renner in the town. I only remember him dying.

Compare that to say Ray Liotta in Goodfellas, Al Pacino in scent of a woman, Christian Bale in The Fighter, Jack Nicholson in As Good as it Gets, etc. Looking cool and crazy does not make a great performance.
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Wow, you're expecting that out of The Town... a movie directed by Ben Affleck? No one's comparing the performance to something you'd find in Goodfellas or something you could except from Jack Nicholson or fucking Al Pacino. Jeremy Renner hasn't been in that many movies yet, but between that and Hurt Locker he's definitely shown he's got the chops. Can't really hate on the guy because he hasn't starred in a Martin Scorsese film yet.

I mean, we're talking about a guy staring in couple of trilogy spin-offs here. It's too early to tell if he'll be the next Marlon Brando or something.
 
Houston3000 said:
Wow, you're expecting that out of The Town... a movie directed by Ben Affleck? No one's comparing the performance to something you'd find in Goodfellas or something you could except from Jack Nicholson or fucking Al Pacino. Jeremy Renner hasn't been in that many movies yet, but between that and Hurt Locker he's definitely shown he's got the chops. Can't really hate on the guy because he hasn't starred in a Martin Scorsese film yet.

I mean, we're talking about a guy staring in couple of trilogy spin-offs here. It's too early to tell if he'll be the next Marlon Brando or something.
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It's others in the thread who are saying he's a great actor. I'm saying the same thing you are, except I didn't think much of his performance in The Town.

Peru said:
Ludicrous talk.. The Bourne movies moved from pertty compelling to very gripping as they found their shape as pieces of pure film, pure movement, form as content and art.
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Really, do tell what's so compelling? First, tell what happened in the second movie, then tell me what happened in the third. Think about it, you will soon realize how an hour and a half was spent on a one page script and shaky cam.
 
I liked Renner a ton when I first saw him as the villain in S.W.A.T.

Then I liked him even more when I watched the short-lived Unusuals.

And then I saw The Hurt Locker and I declared my man-love for him.

So if he really starts anchoring both franchises, I'm totally in. It would be great for him to take up an action hero mantle.
 
Matt Damon's time as the star of the "Bourne Identity" series is over
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Talk about sensationalism. Damon is NOT done with Bourne. He has repeatedly said he'll do another one after Gilroy's Bourne if Greengrass comes back and they can get a good script. In fact, Damon wants to another one. Just recently he said Universal doesn't own the franchise rights and he and the Ludlum Estate can go to WB or wherever else to do another one.

As for Renner, he's definately a great choice. What would be interesting if Legacy sets up a Renner/Bourne face off in Bourne 5.
 
Scott32020 said:
Matt Damon isn't Jason Bourne
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Yes, he's David Webb.

Anyway, Damon to Renner is such a big downgrade. That's who you get if you want to make the direct-to-DVD sequel to the franchise but can't afford someone who can act.
 
i hope tom cruise stays at MI. One of the few movies I like him in.
Lets see what Josh Holloways part in Ghost Protocoll will be, I hope he'll become a permanent part of MI for the next few installments

i never watched a bourne movie in its complete form, should I?
 
Earl Cazone said:
i hope tom cruise stays at MI. One of the few movies I like him in.
Lets see what Josh Holloways part in Ghost Protocoll will be, I hope he'll become a permanent part of MI for the next few installments

i never watched a bourne movie in its complete form, should I?
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Im pretty sure you wont be dissapointed.
 
You'd probably get into Identity vs Supremacy debates with people who care about the Bourne films though. But there's definitely a major shift in style between the two films... the Greengrass versions are probably the "easier" to watch though (and technically, you don't really need to watch Identity to get Supremacy either).
 
reilo said:
Considering the options they were going for, Renner is definitely the best of the bunch.
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This is true, but he's already anchoring MI, it's weird for him to be in both. I dunno how audiences will react to this.
 
Love Renner, and he seems perfect for M:I. But I don't like him for Bourne. I hope Legacy passes quickly so Damon can return to the franchise.
 
firehawk12 said:
You'd probably get into Identity vs Supremacy debates with people who care about the Bourne films though. But there's definitely a major shift in style between the two films... the Greengrass versions are probably the "easier" to watch though (and technically, you don't really need to watch Identity to get Supremacy either).
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Supremacy had the better plot(and music), but overall, Identity was better. Liman would've done better job handling Supremacy.

I'm actually curious as to how Gilroy will show Legacy. Most likely more akin to Identity than Supremacy.
 
Jason's Ultimatum said:
Supremacy had the better plot(and music), but overall, Identity was better. Liman would've done better job handling Supremacy.

I'm actually curious as to how Gilroy will show Legacy. Most likely more akin to Identity than Supremacy.
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For me, it was Ultimatum > Identity > Supremacy
 
The guy doesn't have the face of an highly trained killer which could kill you in 50 different ways on a normal room. He looks goofy.

Damon's empty stare and emotionless face was perfect for this. Like Vin Diesel in Riddick.
 
GQman2121 said:
They can't possibly try and sell him off as Jason Bourne in a new move. That would be horrible.

They could however, play up the Treadstone angle and make him just another government weapon, who's seen the light, and left the reserve - that would be fine.
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We don't really know the lead in Legacy will be, but he is not replacing Damon as Bourne. Damon is still Bourne, and Renner or whoever gets the part will be playing someone new.
 
Not sure that I like the idea of Renner's character in Mission: Impossible to take the spotlight from Ethan Hunt. I'm not saying Ethan is a particularly deep character but it just sounds kind of odd.
 
As much as I liked the Bourne movies, Matt Damon was never entirely convincing as a badass. And anything is better than Tom Cruise. So this is an upgrade.
 
it's nice that Hollywood is trying to make him happen, and he's cute and all, but I just don't see it. *shrugs* He just doesn't scream LEADING MAN! to me...
 
siddx said:
As much as I liked the Bourne movies, Matt Damon was never entirely convincing as a badass. And anything is better than Tom Cruise. So this is an upgrade.
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That was the entire fucking point of the movies.

RustyNails said:
For me, it was Ultimatum > Identity > Supremacy
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Ultimatum was all action and that was it. Not only that, but the third movie showed you just how much Greengrass changed Bourne's character into some invincible superhero. It didn't work and it was awful. They wrote the freaking script as they were shooting the movie, which is why there were quite a few asinine moments.
 
Solo said:
The real question about M:I4 isn't who's the lead, its how will Brad Bird do with live action? I caught the final 40 mins of The Incredibles yesterday for the first time in a couple of years and goddamn does it ever shit on every other Pixar flick from great heights. If he can do live action half as well, M:I4 should be great.
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How can it shit on every other Pixar film when Brad Bird outdid himself with Ratatouille? ;)
 
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