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Papa_Wisdom
Gold Member
Posted from another thread but this is how I see the next gen Xbox
Next gen for Xbox will be a hand held in the same vein as the series s with hdmi out and connection for an external gpu when docked to your tv
The series x equivalent will be around the same price the series x was launched at, maybe even a little more expensive, all accessories will be compatible (memory cards etc). Again with a connection for external gpu.
Optional purchase to buy a Windows key (like developer mode) which means an version of Windows can be installed so can be used as a normal pc. Giving you access to steam and PlayStation ports.
Perhaps the license to oem to manufacture there own Xbox branded machines.
Next gen for Xbox will be a hand held in the same vein as the series s with hdmi out and connection for an external gpu when docked to your tv
The series x equivalent will be around the same price the series x was launched at, maybe even a little more expensive, all accessories will be compatible (memory cards etc). Again with a connection for external gpu.
Optional purchase to buy a Windows key (like developer mode) which means an version of Windows can be installed so can be used as a normal pc. Giving you access to steam and PlayStation ports.
Perhaps the license to oem to manufacture there own Xbox branded machines.
twilo99
Member
There hasn’t been a need for their plastic boxes for years now ..
Maddoxswe
Member
It's crazy how much he lies to sound confident. Everything the dude says will end up on my ignore list going forwardWhat's worse is that he later started pretending as if he always knew this. The following is from his article on Windows Central, published on Jan 17, 2024.
So he knew in mid-November that this is happening. But tweeted on December 16 that it is not happening?
Jez is a bullshiter.
MisterXDTV
Member
Does it matter?
Once MS games come to PS5, Xbox hardware sales will tank to ZERO
And even those who already have one will rush to GameStop to trade it in
Once MS games come to PS5, Xbox hardware sales will tank to ZERO
And even those who already have one will rush to GameStop to trade it in
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diffusionx
Gold Member
Nobody felt the need to buy their box with Starfield, though.
Buggy Loop
Member
Deck 2 more powerful than Series S confirmed.
Mister Wolf
Member
It's not about one game when it comes to selling a console.
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aliadiere25
Member
saintjules
Gold Member
The receipt is just as gold as a gold ticket to Willy Wonka's Choco Factory. I went to go find it and it's been deleted.
Hopium is surely strong.
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Heisenberg007
Gold Journalism
He has also since deleted this tweet, but we have the screenshot
We keep all the receipts 
Gamer_By_Proxy
Member
He makes it sound like xbox shut down cause the steam deck exists? ooooooooooook
Let me break it down for you
1. Leak shows Xbox has a 2027 deadline to meet certain metrics
2. Phil says the ABK deal will expediate their future plans
3. ABK deal finalizes
4. Xbox R.I.P. 2024
ABK deal was the final nail in the coffin.
Let me break it down for you
1. Leak shows Xbox has a 2027 deadline to meet certain metrics
2. Phil says the ABK deal will expediate their future plans
3. ABK deal finalizes
4. Xbox R.I.P. 2024
ABK deal was the final nail in the coffin.
DenchDeckard
Moderated wildly
If microsoft release another console and it's powerful and has gamepass that's as good as last year. This year has started crazy too. Then I'll buy it as well as play my pc.
I make good money, I enjoy buying things and I like their consoles.
midnightAI
Banned
Steam Deck? Do they see that as their competitor (or I read it wrong)? I mean, I see that more as a switch competitor, but I don't think Nintendo will be worried.
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MisterXDTV
Member
Sure Jez, MS is releasing games on PS5 because of Steam Deck (PS Portal sold 100x more)
LOL
This guy is really something
LOL
This guy is really something
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Heisenberg007
Gold Journalism
WTF?! What is their weird persecution complex?
No one is bullying him "because he covers Xbox". We are criticizing him because he has been caught lying.
Coulomb_Barrier
Member
Of course they won't quit right away but whether anyone will still buy Xbox's is the problem.
Xbox Series will top out at around what, 30m lifetime?
Xbox Series 2/Next will achieve 15m at best.
The Xbox console brand is kinda dead already. Gamepass is better, but still, that whole experiment will not work out how they want either.
Xbox Series will top out at around what, 30m lifetime?
Xbox Series 2/Next will achieve 15m at best.
The Xbox console brand is kinda dead already. Gamepass is better, but still, that whole experiment will not work out how they want either.
Chuck Berry
Gold Member
More bullshit drivel out of this hideous blob's mouth
This thing and Chubb Grubb might as well be one in the same person
This thing and Chubb Grubb might as well be one in the same person
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semiconscious
Member
correct. from my own personal experience, it's about at least 3 games...
sankt-Antonio
:^)--?-<
Yeah this. Within their revenue stream something like 5% come from gaming. Its such a small part for MS that its just not worth it to also sell hardware at a loss.
I can totally see them going the "Netflix" for gaming route, and that will include their services and games on PS5 and Switch 2. You don't spend 70bill on IP to artificially block consumer bases from these IP's.
Mister Wolf
Member
Most of us on here are 30 - 40 year old men. Around for all the important generations where consoles competed starting with Genesis vs Super Nintendo. We all should know what goes into making a console popular with the public and a high seller. Xbox got away from the winning strategy. You sell with great exclusives first and foremost and secondary you sell with power. I remember seeing the comparisons of Splinter Cell and Max Payne running on an Xbox vs the PS2 versions and wanting an Xbox bad.
Ansphn
Member
What makes them confident they can enter the handheld market? They never made one before and i doubt they would spend the R&D budget on that.
If they were smart, they would go the Apple route and have their Surface able to hdmi out to a TV to play games.
digoutyoursoul
Member
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MikeM
Member
Exactly. Nintendo and PS aren’t whwre they are because they gave away their exclusives to other platforms.
Xbox lost their way chasing the MS subscription culture. Its a prime example why gaming companies whose main gig is gaming first tend to do better.
digoutyoursoul
Member
They all avoid the possibility poor management has led to this
Iced Arcade
Member
If they release 1st party games on PS, no one is buying Xbox hardware that cost the same as PS hardware that has PS and Xbox games.
Such a stupid idea that it's probably their plan.
Such a stupid idea that it's probably their plan.
Papa_Wisdom
Gold Member
I think it nestles into the cross over of people that bought the switch and the steam deck, which a lot more companies are starting to take notice of and cater to.
Would it be as popular as switch 2? No prob not but I think the prospect of a portable Xbox/game pass local/non streaming experience would be something they would be looking at. And like the switch can be hooked up to tv.
External gpu connector might be a bit too far but I’d like to see it.
They might never have made a handheld before but it’s not like they don’t have access to plenty on the market to strip down and inspect. Valve had never created a hand held either until the steam deck. Plus I’m sure ms hardware team are bigger than valves.
There surface team would be a perfect fit to design something like that.
My opinion anyway.
LoveCake
Member
They may as well quit hardware now because who's going to want to buy an Xbox now?
Little Chicken
Banned
They were never going to leave the console hardware market, just putting more of their games on Nintendo and Playstation systems.
Little Chicken
Banned
Well if they do license out the Xbox name and someone shoves a 4090 into a box and puts an X on it then some people will.
ChuckeRearmed
Member
Well, I kinda agree. Looking at margins of Lenovo or Asus....Aside Nintendo, the console hardware has low margins and I guess Starfield not moving enough consoles have become the final nail in the coffin. Add to that the increasing price for game development (where even powerhouses like Epic are burning money). Then we also have people attached to their digital ecosystems and they would rather lose access to games than switch to other platforms (EGS vs Steam is a prime example).
Though Netflix won't happen because the model is kinda different + the mind share of Netflix is much bigger than Xbox's and Netflix has been a household name for streaming for quite some time. With gaming there are many more avenues - including games like Fortnite that have subscriptions inside subscriptions or game stores within game stores. In gaming, you can literally play the single game for years, without touching anything else for years.
At least Xbox games will have high review scores now
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OmegaSupreme
advanced basic bitch
Sure. They'll have a streaming stick for the two dozen people who want that.
OverHeat
« generous god »
Naaaa the 4090
Is already old tech
MisterXDTV
Member
The users will leave their hardware anyway... It's a moot point
Why selling something that no one wants?
Mr.ODST
Member
Lol Persecution Complex, I don't even follow the guy but the fact bellends on here have to make a thread about one journalist is funny to make themselves feel happy about purchasing a plastic box.
Little Chicken
Banned
They still sold 30+ million Xbox Series consoles over the past 3 years, obviously people want it. They probably have a lot of user data that demonstrates that a large percentage of their customers don't care about exclusivity.
MisterXDTV
Member
So they should keep making a product that becomes completely redundant as you can play ALL their games + Playstation games on a single console??
Amazing business strategy, but MS is capable of that
Clear
CliffyB's Cock Holster
The question has never been about MS' giving up on hardware, its more about their commitment to persevering in the console space when they've invested so heavily in a platform agnostic ecosystem for games.
One of the key USP's of Gamepass is you no longer need a console to play console games after all!
One of the key USP's of Gamepass is you no longer need a console to play console games after all!
Bry0
Member
I’ve said this on other threads but people ignored me. Valve and STEAM OS is a threat to windows. It’s a small one now but if I was MS I would take that very seriously, it is a bigger problem than Sony, Sony is not trying to replace windows, valve is going all the way.
Cyber_hunter026
Member
ChuckeRearmed
Member
I don't think that Steam is that much a treat, but the concept of lightweight OS for the user is. I still wish for a lightweight Windows OS, but if Xbox OS will become one - will be cool.
Personally I am more afraid for Linux as Microsoft has been contributing too much to Linux and it feels like sooner or later, MSFT will become to influential there.
Personally I still believe that if MSFT find a way to put Xbox OS and Android support there, that would be amazing
Especially when now the mobile phones are becoming capable of running console games.
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