Killer Queen
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This line of thinking would surprise me considering some stuff in this series.
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JoJo's Bizarre Adventure: Diamond is Unbreakable OT What a Beautiful Duwang
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grandjedi6
Master of the Google Search
When Dio got his stand, each of the Jojo's seemed to have a 50/50 shot of inheriting a plant like stand (Jonathan's) or a punch ghost stand (Dio's). Thus Holly and Joseph got plant stands while Jotaro and Josuke got punch ghosts.
JadedWriter
Member
So they're really Dio's kids then?
My understanding is that Dio taking over Jonathan's body somehow fucked with the whole Joestar bloodline and induced Stands in some supernatural way because Araki.
JadedWriter
Member
Perfectly fine with that since I'd rather have a punch ghost than a vine myself.
In real life, Jotaro had a punch ghost to set up The World and Star Platinum having time stop. Dio doesn't say "he has the same power as me?!" but "he has the same type of stand as me?!".
So Star Platinum and The World were punch ghosts because that's what time stop Stands look like.
This got thrown out of the window when Part 3 got huge popular, and so all Jojos get punch ghost stands to continue from Jotaro. Crazy Diamond is the first punch ghost stand we see that's not Star Platinum or The World.
So Star Platinum and The World were punch ghosts because that's what time stop Stands look like.
This got thrown out of the window when Part 3 got huge popular, and so all Jojos get punch ghost stands to continue from Jotaro. Crazy Diamond is the first punch ghost stand we see that's not Star Platinum or The World.
Would Josuke have been around two years old, maybe closer to three when SDC started? A big point that Jotaro mentions in the first episode was already knowing that Josuke went through an identical sickness as Holy did.
He was born in '83 and SDC was '88 to '89.
I feel like Hermit Purple was given to Joseph because they didn't want to give him an entirely new moveset. Also probably because they didn't want him to be fighting a lot.
Agreed on both points.
Tizoc
Member
Youve never watched indiana jones have you?
I have both the Jotaro Kujo (Stardust Araki color version) and a Star Platinum medicos figures on my work desk. Everyone always eyeballs them when they pass by me. No shame.
Stuff makes the most sense if you just don't worry about the details and just have fun. To me it makes more sense that an asshole like Dio just naturally has an asshole, way too good stand. Johnathan as a protagonist isn't allowed to have anything that isn't the most vanilla stand ever.
I've never really understood this line of thinking. Both stands and Hamon are made up things Araki can just make up rules for. Maybe someone is so good at Hamon they stop time like Dio. Maybe a vampire super monster has the ability to shoot fire like Avdol. A lot of stands aren't so crazy that vampire or Hamon powers couldn't just be used as well. Love deluxe is basically Bruford. The pillar men had insane powers like lava blood and the control of wind. Stands simply make it so that the character needs no explanation for their powers and they have more dynamic weaknesses that aren't sunlight or ripple. Like John Landis once said, "you can kill a vampire anyway you want because vampires aren't real."
RubberLuffy
Banned
Which is brought up out of nowhere once and never mentioned again
I was speaking purely from a power perspective. He can still be Indiana Jones but with a
BinaryPork2737
Unconfirmed Member
Yeah, but then you have really weird Stand powers that Hamon and vampires (and by extension pillar men) wouldn't be able to reproduce without losing something that makes those encounters unique. Some Stand abilities that haven't been introduced in the anime yet wouldn't feel the same if they were based on sunlight and breathing, or vampire cells and pillar men modes. The more dynamic weaknesses and strengths really bring a lot of tension to the fights and help encourage the puzzle/battle of wits aspect of the series. Araki gets really creative with Hamon and pillar men powers in part 2, but the introduction of Stands also helped to differentiate jojo from other manga/anime, especially with all of the weird designs that Araki comes up with.
Monochromaticx
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He never uses it like an actual whip though. Just mostly to grab things.
As for the ripple, I really enjoyed it and it allowed a user to do some pretty absurd shit in it's own right, as well as the pillar men modes. I feel like the Ripple shouldn't have been just outright replaced by stands but it should have been continued to be used in conjunction to stands, especially if an user was able to hit and hurt stands as long as they used the ripple to hit them.
Sibersk Esto
Banned
Ripple was dropped because Araki likes drawing stands.
Killer Queen
Banned
He's really good at it though and that's probably my favorite part about Stands. I went on the wiki and looked at all of them and decided my favourites based on their design instead of power and user.
RubberLuffy
Banned
Araki said he was pretty much out of ideas regarding the Ripple and if he wanted the manga to continue he needed something new. Keeping the Ripple around means you have to keep vampires or Pillar Men around, and even a Ripple Master would get chumped hard by some idiot who has had a Stand for like a week.
Ditching Ripple and vampires (minus DIO, V. Ice and Nukesaku, which Ripple wasn't needed anyway) was the best path and Part 3/Stands is what actually gained JoJo the popularity it has today.
papertoonz
Member
there is alot of stuff that araki forgot about hamon
but yeah i like part 1&2 but hamon was pretty much used as much as it could have been in those parts so i don't miss it
SolVanderlyn
Thanos acquires the fully powered Infinity Gauntlet in The Avengers: Infinity War, but loses when all the superheroes team up together to stop him.
DAMN this is cool. This should have been Part 3 DIO's color scheme.Man I'm not even a statue guy but I wouldn't even mind owning and displaying jojo statues. Some of those medicos figures are just too good.
Hard to resist my favorite DIO alternate version.
Mr. Smiley
Member
Oh shit! The reveal of Hirohiko Araki's stand is coming up.
Yes, the first episode of the first season lines up with the beginning of the manga.
Yup, the 2012 series.
chrisPjelly
Member
Self insert hype, let's go!
aka manga Squidward
Salty Rice
Member
HOORRY SHEEEEET!
Killer Queen
Banned
Roughly how many episodes do you think we have left?
39 episodes in total is confirmed, so 26 episodes left?
papertoonz
Member
it begins
Unspeakable Evil
Member
Is that a headband or does this character have a bizzare hairline?
One of life's great mysteries.
Monochromaticx
Member
find out in the next episode of JOJO's. BIZARRE. AAADEVNTURRREE!!!
Killer Queen
Banned
So shorter than Stardust Crusaders but longer than part 1 or 2. A little disappointed that it doesn't seem that we've broken into the real story yet but maybe in the next 3-4 weeks.
Jigolo
Member
Watch everything you just mentioned who cares if you're uninformed. It's better that way
Sibersk Esto
Banned
It sounds weird to say but this past episode with Joseph and Josuke started to set some things in motion.
That's not what I meant... I'm looking for a good place to stream these things, I figured there would be someone in this thread more informed with me who could recommend somewhere.
Gentle Rodriguez
Member
Crunchyroll has most shows, you can literally google "watch *show name*" and find a decent streaming site as well.
Sibersk Esto
Banned
There's crunchyroll as a big one.
Daisuki is also solid
Hulu has a good selection
Those are the legal ones I know about.
Daisuki is also solid
Hulu has a good selection
Those are the legal ones I know about.
Battles in Part 4 are episodic like Part 3, but most cause events that directly go into new fights:
Angelo's defeat makes the Nijimuras notice Josuke and Jotaro,
Koichi getting a stand from the arrow makes Tamami and Yukako notice him, via stand fate,
and Tamami reveals Hazamada/Surface.
Akira and Achtung Baby set up future episodes too, but that's spoilers.
Angelo's defeat makes the Nijimuras notice Josuke and Jotaro,
Koichi getting a stand from the arrow makes Tamami and Yukako notice him, via stand fate,
and Tamami reveals Hazamada/Surface.
Akira and Achtung Baby set up future episodes too, but that's spoilers.