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[Virgin Wii]

Looks like Fox finnaly did greenlight Marti's show, here it is:

http://fox.com/pointpleasant/

That was really weird. Didn't notice anybody from Angel in it... or is Marti somebody on Buffy? It looks like there's some supernatural stuff going on though, so I'll try to check it out.

I need to start buying the Buffy DVDs to see where I stand in the Buffy vs. Angel war. I hear a lot of people saying Angel is better, on this board and others, but I want to see for myself.

 

[SolidSnakex]

Marti was a writer on Buffy and then took over the show during Seasons 6 and 7 while Joss went off to work on Firefly. That's why those 2 seasons are so drastically different in tone compared to the other ones.

 

[Virgin Wii]

Ah, writer. Gotcha.

This board is pretty different from other boards on the topic of Buffy. This board seems to hate seasons 6 & 7 and love season 2. A LOT of other boards I've gone to (some dedicated to the Buffyverse) have more than half the posters saying either 6 or 7 is one of their favorite seasons in "What's Your Fave Season" threads. Very few posters say season 2 is their fave.

Same with Angel. Everybody on here loves season 4. Every other board I've gone to, season 4 is one of the worst, if not the worst, seasons in their opinion.

Weird, no?

 

[SolidSnakex]

Ah, writer. Gotcha.

This board is pretty different from other boards on the topic of Buffy. This board seems to hate seasons 6 & 7 and love season 2. A LOT of other boards I've gone to (some dedicated to the Buffyverse) have more than half the posters saying either 6 or 7 is one of their favorite seasons in "What's Your Fave Season" threads. Very few posters say season 2 is their fave.
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Bunch of SPuffy fangirls.

The writing in the last 2 seasons are very inconsistant. Especially in Season 7 where the thing went all over the place. Just watch the first few eps of S7 and you'll think to yourself that this is going in a big direction, then the SiT's arrive and everything is sidetracked with a bunch of needless storylines. You've also got stuff that really made no sense, like how The First had several chances to just kill Buffy, but it was never explained why it never did. If they could've kept everyone on track like the first few eps I think S7 would've been my fav. Alot of people were actually saying the samething after the first few eps of the season.

 

[Virgin Wii]

Bunch of SPuffy fangirls.

The writing in the last 2 seasons are very inconsistant. Especially in Season 7 where the thing went all over the place. Just watch the first few eps of S7 and you'll think to yourself that this is going in a big direction, then the SiT's arrive and everything is sidetracked with a bunch of needless storylines. You've also got stuff that really made no sense, like how The First had several chances to just kill Buffy, but it was never explained why it never did. If they could've kept everyone on track like the first few eps I think S7 would've been my fav. Alot of people were actually saying the samething after the first few eps of the season.

Hmm. Well, I'm going to start with buying the season 1 boxset (which is only 12 episodes, WTF) so I don't have to worry about season 6 & 7 crappiness for a while. The way you describe it, though, it sounds a lot like season 1 Angel. No real direction and beginnings of arcs that actually don't go anywhere.

 

[SolidSnakex]

Season 1 of Buffy was only 12 eps because they didn't really know if it was going to last. That's also why it looks extremely cheap compared to the rest of the series. The show ended up becoming a hit and essentially saved the WB's ass.

BTW, if you've never seen it try to track down the unaired pilot. Wait till you see Willow. Oh the horror.

 

[Virgin Wii]

Season 1 of Buffy was only 12 eps because they didn't really know if it was going to last. That's also why it looks extremely cheap compared to the rest of the series. The show ended up becoming a hit and essentially saved the WB's ass.

BTW, if you've never seen it try to track down the unaired pilot. Wait till you see Willow. Oh the horror.

And the WB cancelled both Buffy and Angel. What a crappy way to treat a show that did so much for their network.

I'll keep my eye out for the pilot. Suprised it isn't in the season 1 set, though, considering how short s1 is. It does kinda make sense though... 4 episodes per disc, if they were to include the pilot they'd need to add an extra disc.

I've seen Willow 2 or 3 times in Angel. She was scary in s4, kinda mousey in s2. Not sure how she could be much scarier in the pilot than in s4... unless they totally screwed up her wardrobe and makeup. Ok, I don't wanna think of it.

 

[SolidSnakex]

They canned Angel but they wanted to keep Buffy they just weren't willing to pay what Joss wanted for it. Alot of people believe that their cancellation of Angel had to do with bitterness toward Joss for taking Buffy from them.

The unaired pilot was pretty bad. The vampire dusting effect was downright terrible back then. If S1 followed in the same path as the pilot I don't think it'd made it past a few eps.

As for Willow, here she is in the pilot:

http://img134.exs.cx/img134/5092/willowbuffy0ow.jpg

 

[Virgin Wii]

They canned Angel but they wanted to keep Buffy they just weren't willing to pay what Joss wanted for it. Alot of people believe that their cancellation of Angel had to do with bitterness toward Joss for taking Buffy from them.

The unaired pilot was pretty bad. The vampire dusting effect was downright terrible back then. If S1 followed in the same path as the pilot I don't think it'd made it past a few eps.

As for Willow, here she is in the pilot:

http://img134.exs.cx/img134/5092/willowbuffy0ow.jpg

Well, it seems like they only screwed themselves then. I heard they wanted Angel back a couple months after they cancelled it. But considering David doesn't want to play Angel anymore, it's a no-go. Good for him. Very bad for me though. At least I still have 1 more season of Angel to watch, and 7 of Buffy... whereas most of you have none. That makes me feel a tiny bit better.

Different actor for Willow. Not too suprising. Charisma looks sooo much younger.

 

[SolidSnakex]

Yah after it was canned one WB exec said that they were asked by Fox (who owns the rights to Buffy and Angel) if they wanted to renew it or not and they said no. He said if they'd just gave them time then they wouldn't have cancelled it.

For Season 5 they were asked by the WB to make the season more episodic so people could join in even if they hadn't seen previous eps and still understand what was going on. They did and the shows viewership boosted by a million and it was still canned. The WB's struggling right now from what i've read. Well deserved.

 

[Virgin Wii]

I've had the Firefly box for a while (got it for Christmas) but didn't get around to watching it until tonight.

Saw the first episode. I generally despise science fiction, but it's actually really good. Maybe because it doesn't take place in a totally sterile environment like most scifi stuff I've seen. I think I like it more than Angel, but since it's science fiction and not supernatural I'll probably go on lying to myself and think of Angel as the better show.

Spoiler

They actually had me going with that fakeout where the captain tells the doctor that lesbian lady died. Though I should've known, because when he told him that I thought "I wonder why they put her in the opening credits then."

 

[MmmBeef]

Spoiler

They actually had me going with that fakeout where the captain tells the doctor that lesbian lady died. Though I should've known, because when he told him that I thought "I wonder why they put her in the opening credits then."

Hah?????

Spoiler

What makes you think that Kaylee is a lesbian?

The 2-hour pilot does rock. My favorites are probably Our Mrs. Reynolds and War Stories.

 

[Virgin Wii]

Hah?????

Spoiler

What makes you think that Kaylee is a lesbian?

The 2-hour pilot does rock. My favorites are probably Our Mrs. Reynolds and War Stories.

If she's not that's cool. I just thought she was because of the couple of exchanges between her and that prostitute. And she's always commenting about how beautiful various women are.

I'll watch more of the show tomorrow, probably. It rocks.

 

[Scrow]

If she's not that's cool. I just thought she was because of the couple of exchanges between her and that prostitute. And she's always commenting about how beautiful various women are.

I'll watch more of the show tomorrow, probably. It rocks.

when i first saw firefly i got the same impression. she seems to echo willow in a few respects.

 

[SolidSnakex]

Just a reminder, the Serenity trailer is set to premiere with the Elektra movie.

 

[kitchenmotors]

Just a reminder, the Serenity trailer is set to premiere with the Elektra movie.

Wrong, because Serenity was delayed to September, the trailer is now longer being attached to Elektra. It's going to be shown with Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy on May 6th.

 

[AntoneM]

Ok, I just finished watching Becoming pt. 2 for the secon tiem and my question is, why did Buffy have to "kill" Angel, couldn't she have just cut him, thereby getting his blood on the sword, and then stabbed Kapla (or whatever his name was)? I mean whistler only said that Angel blodd opens and seals it, not that you would HAVE to kill the two at the same time.

 

[Lonely College Student]

http://www.aintitcool.com/display.cgi?id=19326



* At what point in season two would Jaye and bartender Eric have commenced boning? “I'd argue for episode one,” Fuller tells Ain’t It Cool. “I mean, Jesus, fuck already. Right?”
* A major season-two story arc would have involved Jaye’s sister Sharon enduring a miracle pregnancy. "The big thrust of the second season was going to be a miracle-birth arc, with Sharon [Katie Finneran], the lesbian sister,” Fuller told SciFi.com. “We set that up in a [first-season] episode called 'Safety Canary,' where she breaks up with her bisexual girlfriend, who then goes back to her husband and has sex with him. After they've had sex, Sharon comes back to her bisexual girlfriend and says, 'I want to still be with you,' and then they have sex. So the semen in the bisexual girl's vagina gets into lesbian Sharon's vagina and she becomes pregnant, though she's never had sex with a man. So the whole arc of season two was going to be this miracle birth/Jesus arc and Jaye coming to the conclusion she may be a little bit of a prophet.”
* The DVD’s own mini-doc reveals, if I remember correctly, that Jaye would be institutionalized at the conclusion of the second season. At the start of the third season, she asks “Why me?” And the answer comes back: “Because you listen.”
* Season three follows up on the first-season episode “Cocktail Bunny,” with the world learning that Jaye Tyler has powers and abilities far beyond those of mortal men. “Dr. Ron was going to write a book about Jaye and her quasi-Jesus complex and expose her,” explains Fuller. “There would be groupies.”

 

[Anyanka]

Ok, I just finished watching Becoming pt. 2 for the secon tiem and my question is, why did Buffy have to "kill" Angel, couldn't she have just cut him, thereby getting his blood on the sword, and then stabbed Kapla (or whatever his name was)? I mean whistler only said that Angel blodd opens and seals it, not that you would HAVE to kill the two at the same time.

She didn't have to kill him. Impaling Angel in the chest with a sword wouldn't have killed him. She just had to stab him to make him bleed. Whistler says when he is stabbed both him and Acathla will be sent to hell and that's exactly what happens. You can even see that he's not dead when he is sucked away, he is still reaching out for her. Whenever they refer to Buffy "killing" him they're just meaning that she sent him to hell.

 

[Escape Goat]

After watching Season 7 of Buffy I seem to recall Dawn always saying "I don't understand! /whine"


Most annoying character outside of Clem and Riley.