Judging Vita before its first Christmas is "preposterous" - Sony
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'safe', 'decent', maybe. but not necessarily 'interesting' to absolutely anyone...
of course, but it's simple to explain their enduring popularity.
clay_ghost
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'safe', 'decent', maybe. but not necessarily 'interesting' to absolutely anyone
Well the sales shows that its 'interesting' to a lot of people. IF vita have this kind of pull, it will have done better
I am disappointed that Tales of innocence R is not localized .
TOE for psp is the final straw that pushes me to buy a psp lol, and TOV for 360, also i have to rebuy a ps3 for the new tales next year T.T
edit
just realized that i may really buy a vita if TOI:r come out in English, i have become sure a huge tales fan? :0
ScreenSplitter
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Also, Ocarina of Time 3D.
semiconscious
Member
'nintendo: where your fond childhood memories live on forever'
gaming as comfort food? yeah, it's gonna sell
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MagiusNecros
Gilgamesh Fan Annoyance
Vita would have Type 0 if Sony wanted to give everything it could give. Apparently it was not meant to be.
lowrider007
Licorice-flavoured booze?
Seriously, thank God for Sony this gen otherwise we'd have barely anything to talk about, this honestly has to be one of the most conversational and interesting generations we've had thus far in gaming, although I'm sure the proliferation of the internet has helped somewhat.
IrishNinja
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did that sell well? i imagine it did, never saw the #'s
right next to AAI2 on the list of shit i'm sad im not playing
'safe', 'decent', maybe. but not necessarily 'interesting' to absolutely anyone
is this some meta-tribute to hyuga i'm not following?
hardcastlemccormick
Banned
'safe', 'decent', maybe. but not necessarily 'interesting' to absolutely anyone
Yeah, the market is pretty stupid, buying all of those games they want to buy and shit. It's that anti-Sony conspiracy that's holding people back from trying things that aren't just the same-old same-old.
Nah, it's just deflection for the Vita's bad news. When you can't support the Vita, bash the 3DS or bash the person who told you the bad news. It's all over this thread.
Don't worry guys, I'm part of the anti-Sony conspiracy, so you can call me biased if you want, if it makes the whole thing make sense.
Then Sony can say Judging Vita after its first Christmas is "preposterous"
semiconscious
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calm down, son. i'm not denying the popularity of nintendo games. i'm just pointing out that, for some of us, they're not necessarily all that 'universally appealing'
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hardcastlemccormick
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calm down, son. i'm not denying the popularity of nintendo games. i'm just pointing out that, for some of us, they're not necessarily all that 'universally appealing'
You remind me of one of my friends, when we're talking about the usefulness of a particular scientific discovery and he'll start throwing ellipsis down and say, "Well...soome...people...think...that's un...interesting."
And you respond "you don't say?" and keep on ignoring him because there is absolutely no point in saying anything else. The only reason I hang out with him is because he talks like the G-man from Half-Life.
Believe it or not, I also want the Vita to do well, because I want to want one. I love handhelds. Any system with Persona is an eventual purchase of mine, I love Wipeout (played it on a friends system and it was amazing) and I want Gravity Rush/Daze/Bone.
Don'tBeWeird
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Yep, they've stepped it up. Wonder if they've had any success with them because the adverts are pretty good.
yurinka
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Nope. 2012 is as always the year of the PS3 (same will happen with 2013).
But Mayans predicted that this world will end in December and that a new age will come. In this new age Vita will reign supreme because Sony finally will reduce its price and will market it properly, and the 3rd party hordes will follow. I see it. 2013 will be renamed to year 1 A.V.
KillerTravis
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'nintendo: where your fond childhood memories live on forever'
gaming as comfort food? yeah, it's gonna sell
Wow lol, someone's salty.
OoT 3D sold more than 550K in Japan and as June 2012 sold more than 1 million units in US.
LiveFromKyoto
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I don't own a Vita, but I plan to. Sony's definitely still keeping the price too high though. They're trying to do the "price drop without a price drop" thing by doing pack ins and retailers are incentivizing with gift certificates and extra games. If they'd just come out and said $199 they'd be in a better spot, that's much closer to gift giving territory for most parents.
It's reasonable to expect them to be at 3 million WW after the holidays, that's not amazing but it's not the 3D0 either.
It's reasonable to expect them to be at 3 million WW after the holidays, that's not amazing but it's not the 3D0 either.
Didn't it just pass the million this week in Japan? I can't see them reaching the 3 million mark by the end of the holidays.
yurinka
Member
Do not understimate the power of Sony land. The sonyer PALs are millions.
TGO
Hype Train conductor. Works harder than it steams.
I'm buying both, and playing them back 2 back
but yes, judging a console that was released at the beginning of the summer drought is kinda retarded, first christmas gets the ball rolling
after that, well people can say what they want, but PS3 has been doomed for 6 years though, to some its has nothing to do with sales but merely they don't like the Vita or Sony full stop, but Sony can do better though
I'm inclined to believe this was the plan all along. Launch after Christmas so they can use the line "Wait till its first Christmas" if it fails.
Steverulez
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Got me to buy one and I don't regret it!
SuperSonic1305
Member
oh oh the Vita is doing poorly oh oh yeah oh
*masturbates furiously*
*masturbates furiously*
Father_Brain
Banned
it's like you can read my mind
grimshawish
Banned
You really should get compensation for how much the entire world is picking on you and Vita; some sort of Special Victims Fund.
Seriously this shit is getting old your basically attacking everyone who posted in this thread and claiming their doing the above. Which is unfair to some decent comments quite frankly (coming from all perspectives).
blizzardjesus
Banned
afraid to ask her out? fear of rejection? don't wanna get hurt? you might be on to something
Shes a needy financial burdon, that claims to like to play games, but none of them are fun or worthwhile.
While 3Ds is the cute nerdy girl that isn't super attractive, but is always in a good mood and ready for fun.
flyinpiranha
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There's nothing better than relaxing by the fire with my girlfriend, slowly uncorking the wine and getting extremely hot and turned on over how bad the Vita is doing.
SuperSonic1305
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There is a difference between "The Vita needs some better marketing and more Sony games" and "I can't wait for the NPD's *grabs popcorn
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MagiusNecros
Gilgamesh Fan Annoyance
I think Sony thinks the Vita is playing Golf.
Therefore it's doing better then everything out there.
Therefore it's doing better then everything out there.
fluffydelusions
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I wonder how much they spend on Vita advertising compared to how much Vita actually sells is.
Kazuma Kiryu
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i guess it might be premature to judge it before christmas, but i don't see how it'll get any better. you've got the wiiU launch, ps3 and 360 (probably with price cuts) with their great library, 3ds is a more established platform already (even if it's nowhere near as great as the ds was) and the vita software situation is "okay" at best.
drop the price, get more developer attention and really go to town with ps mobile.
but do it quickly, because there's a few games i want to play.
drop the price, get more developer attention and really go to town with ps mobile.
but do it quickly, because there's a few games i want to play.
Father_Brain
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Admittedly, it was a mistake for me to bring up the Vita general thread a few pages back. But seriously, no one is saying that Vita owners shouldn't be enjoying the system, or that there are no good games for the system available or in the pipeline.
(Well, not literally no one, but anyone saying that should be ignored.)
If you can't stand hearing any negativity about Vita's sales prospects, you should probably stick to the general thread or to game-specific threads. The persecution complex is more than a bit absurd.
(Well, not literally no one, but anyone saying that should be ignored.)
If you can't stand hearing any negativity about Vita's sales prospects, you should probably stick to the general thread or to game-specific threads. The persecution complex is more than a bit absurd.
Schobeleth
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SkylineRKR
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If Sony had faith in the Vita they'd put Santa Monica and ND on projects for it and they fought for MonHun. Maybe they did fight for it, but to the media they said 'dunno, ask Capcom'. Which was odd.
You'd also think they would announce their biggest franchise right away. Nintendo announces their Mario stuff for their new handheld. Sony did not announce God of War and Gran Turismo at all. Now I do think GT isn't really suited for handheld (which is a problem with Sonys portfolio in general), but its still a big fish.
Yeah, no. 3DS during Doomed era still crushed Vita sales. I bet Sony is killing for those 30k a week averages 3DS did in Japan. 3DS had a clear future; Nintendo would unleash Mario Kart and a load of other games. We knew about RE, MGS, Zelda, Starfox, Icarus etc. Nintendo announced a fuckload of games but its just that they spaced things out and didn't release a killer app during its first 6 months. They tried to sell it at a high price and without having to rely on Mario, which failed. They let Sony play their card, who thought they were cheap as 3DS was priced the same, and then they dropped the price, did some announcements and the Vita was pretty much knock out before it was even being released.
I think that moment where Nintendo lowered their price and announced MH must've been one of the worst days in SCE history. It was exactly what Sony did during its golden era.
You'd also think they would announce their biggest franchise right away. Nintendo announces their Mario stuff for their new handheld. Sony did not announce God of War and Gran Turismo at all. Now I do think GT isn't really suited for handheld (which is a problem with Sonys portfolio in general), but its still a big fish.
Yeah, no. 3DS during Doomed era still crushed Vita sales. I bet Sony is killing for those 30k a week averages 3DS did in Japan. 3DS had a clear future; Nintendo would unleash Mario Kart and a load of other games. We knew about RE, MGS, Zelda, Starfox, Icarus etc. Nintendo announced a fuckload of games but its just that they spaced things out and didn't release a killer app during its first 6 months. They tried to sell it at a high price and without having to rely on Mario, which failed. They let Sony play their card, who thought they were cheap as 3DS was priced the same, and then they dropped the price, did some announcements and the Vita was pretty much knock out before it was even being released.
I think that moment where Nintendo lowered their price and announced MH must've been one of the worst days in SCE history. It was exactly what Sony did during its golden era.
Read trough the whole thread and one point seems to be completly missed:
They cutted of the backward compatibility. Yes, you can play some PSP games digitally, but you can´t take your already bought UMD game and play it on Vita. They cutted of a huge installed user base.
I have a feeling thats one reason they are suffering so much.
They cutted of the backward compatibility. Yes, you can play some PSP games digitally, but you can´t take your already bought UMD game and play it on Vita. They cutted of a huge installed user base.
I have a feeling thats one reason they are suffering so much.
Schobeleth
Member
Now this... this is a real analization of Sony's handling of the Vita. I agree with most of your points really. A lot of us (Vita owners) have talked about this before, how Sony's main big teams like ND are not or were not doing stuff for Vita.
They finally revealed Tearaway and Killzone Merc but those are not what I'd consider "huge" entries from those developers ... the team behind Tearaway is even confirmed to be a small fraction of the team from MM.
I think Sony's main problem now is that they're budgeting things all around, they clearly have most of their A team working on stuff for PS4 while the Vita is getting SOME support now, but it's not enough to really give the impression that they're fully backing it. Still, there are loads of third party games coming or already on the system ... seriously, most of our complaints now are that there are too many games coming.
'safe', 'decent', maybe. but not necessarily 'interesting' to absolutely anyone
Lol
SkylineRKR
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Yes, although BC isn't vital (we've seen it with Ps3 which started to do well when it got a cheaper revision sans BC)... I do think its important during the launch of a system. Even though hardly anyone plays their old games, consumers do want assurance that their old library isn't in vain. MS did the same, they were constantly adding games via BC (at a tedious rate, but the best sellers worked) but that process pretty much died down and no one gave a fuck.
With Vita they did the right thing when they killed UMD off, as UMD was shit for handheld gaming. Moving parts and all. But the way they handled it is suspicious. I bought the Vita at launch, and it couldn't play my PSP games nor could it play PsOne classics. I had to start from scratch. The PSP basically could do more things. The Vita should've been launched with such support. it should pave a way for PSP owners. But I think it alienated itself.
And why can't it just boot games without a memory card? People will buy it anyway. Its another of those things in consumers minds, everyone will buy a memorycard anyway but they do want their device to work without one.
Some of the vitriol expressed toward the Vita is very transparent, and your indignation comes across as complete bullshit.
To Far Away Times
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From Sony PR said:
If by "content" he is referring to current Vita software then I see a rough holiday coming up. I think a lot of people were burned on the PSP after all the B-Team spinoffs and scaled-down ports. Sony doesn't seemed concerned about it either, with their most popular studios remaining console exclusive. Repeating the same strategy as the PSP has resulted in the Vita's current sales climate.
Welp.From Sony PR said:
I'm not sure why people like him or FB care as much. Perhaps it's a stress reliever.
Not enoughfor the staggering amount of loose talk in that statement.
Will it be too early to judge when the holiday numbers come out and are just as pathetic?
Vita's hidden feature is the moving goalposts one. i've seen it happen at least three times since release
not_so_special
Banned
Not enoughfor the staggering amount of loose talk in that statement.
Will it be too early to judge when the holiday numbers come out and are just as pathetic?
yes it will be too early. there shouldn't be talk about sales at all. not until the system is doing well.
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