AndrewDean84xX
Banned
Play the XL, nothing wrong with that screen. The anti-glare and screen size are great.
So after Christmas we can tell if the Vita is a flop or not, for realsies?
Judging Vita before its first Christmas is "preposterous" - Sony
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Play the XL, nothing wrong with that screen. The anti-glare and screen size are great.
So after Christmas we can tell if the Vita is a flop or not, for realsies?
frankie_baby
Member
If anything its Japan where it will die first, at least it seems some kind of effort however minimal is being made in the west, Japan however seems they've already given up
metalslimer
Member
Wait for E3 2013, wait for Christmas 2013, etc.
'Twas the Eve of Black Friday
by VegaNine
'Twas the eve of Black Friday—and all through the stores,
Employees unloaded the Vitas in scores;
Their boxes were stacked 'long the aisles with flair,
In hopes that by morning consumers would care.
But the workers were forlorn, and teased the device,
For again, Sony failed in reducing its price;
(In a fax sent to stores, they wrote, "Nothing to fear!
"If worst comes to worst, we'll reduce it next year.")
And so bundles were issued (as if a vaccine),
But given the console, the cost was obscene;
For its library lacked for those 'triple-A' games,
And its schedule—short on those meaningful names;
And its memory cards still did remain at a mint,
And the "marketing effort"—not even a hint!
And opposing the Vita were unspoken foes:
The iPads and smartphones and God only knows.
But nevertheless, Black Friday was near,
And 'all things must go'—no matter how queer!
So the Vitas were stacked (for the ignorant guest)
And one worker, finished, sat down for a rest.
And he rested quite deeply, in dread of the crowd,
'Til a co-worker woke him by screaming aloud:
"Marcus, come quick! It's Sony!" he cried.
"A last minute conference—broadcast worldwide!"
He fled to the screen, and what did he spy?
Dressed like St. Nick, Sony's Prez', Kaz Hirai!
"I've heard your complaints." spoke 'The Kaz' with caress,
"May you all rest assured of the Vita's success!
"For my elves have been busy ('though their paychecks deprived),
"And I'm pleased to announce that the games have arrived!"
"Now MonHun! Now DQ! Now Ratchet & Clank!
"On Chrono! On Seph'roth! On GT—make bank!
"To the top of the charts! Wadadon, bang your drum!
"NPD! NPD! NPD! Here we come!"
And the worker, delighted, amended a sign:
"The Vita is now only $169."
Half-asleep did he smile on a thought once depraved:
"Dare might I say it—the Vita is saved."
So soon did he wake to that annual clatter;
The cage had been opened, the bears had grown fatter.
They toppled the aisles in lieu of the bends;
They tore down the shelving. They trampled their friends.
They rounded the corners like corpulent cheetahs—
And came within view of the splendorous Vitas!
And there, they stood froze; in their eyes came a glean...
But for Just Dance, and COD:BLOPS, and Madden '13.
"It was all just a dream." said the worker, in plight;
"Happy Christmas to all, and to Vita, goodnight."
It's hard to believe just how weak the line-up is after the PSP.
"My goodness Nintendo, with this avalanche of fresh IP's you are really spoiling us!"
This is probably the reason why he didn´t post this PSV top10 as well.
SpaceBridge
Member
Looking at this list certainly seems like Sony is trying hard to develop a Vita ecosystem.
metalslimer
Member
Damn...
Of course not, but anyone who has followed Japanese sales at all knows that the last couple of weeks of the year have the same impact on sales that Christmas does here.
frankie_baby
Member
Are you trying to tell me that Smoky didn't post the Vita top 10 on purpose? You don't say.
The month of December and into January is by far the biggest sales period for Japan.
The_Darkest_Red
Member
Say what you will about sales but I think it's been a great first year for my Vita. I've certainly purchased more games for it this year than my 3DS (which is fine, I love my 3DS all the same). Hopefully some titles with mainstream appeal and a price-drop will help get this thing on track, although at this point I'm still very skeptical.
It simply wasn't relevant to the point I was making as the Vita isn't a successful platform.
I'm a little bit baffled as to why my seemingly simple point is proving so difficult to grasp.
A handheld console can be successful even if the library is overwhelmingly made up of sequels, spin-offs and ports. How would posting the Vita top 10 prove that?
Funny thing is, I have never, ever suggested that the Vita stands a chance of being successful. I don't think people are actually reading my posts.
Canis lupus
Member
Ive purchased more Vita games in its first year than Ive ever done for any other handheld.
The GBA is testament to that.
Wait, what, really?
So they just expect us to pay several hundred dollars for a nice looking plastic doorstop in the first few months of the year and then be like "Hey, you got plenty of use out of this thing as a doorstop for 7 months! It's not fair to expect that you should have done anything else with it until Christmas!".
That's total bullshit. Don't put the system out until you're ready to do something with it.
Meanwhile, I'm using my Vita to level out the uneven night stand next to my bed.
So they just expect us to pay several hundred dollars for a nice looking plastic doorstop in the first few months of the year and then be like "Hey, you got plenty of use out of this thing as a doorstop for 7 months! It's not fair to expect that you should have done anything else with it until Christmas!".
That's total bullshit. Don't put the system out until you're ready to do something with it.
Meanwhile, I'm using my Vita to level out the uneven night stand next to my bed.
GhostTrick
Banned
Then why being salty (I use your words) because 3DS is selling more ? The problem of Vita isnt sequels or spin offs or ports, its also because it lacks its own big softwares.
Gravity Rush or LBP are a good step toward that direction. Lets hope AC Liberation will be too.
Guessing you don't have a smartphone, not that there's anything wrong with that.
But if you have an iPhone or a Droid, the Vita is redundant, oversized, nearly worthless, and ignored at any point in which it would normally be relevant.
jeremy1456
Junior Member
Maybe people would take your post seriously if you hadn't followed up the list with some serious herp de derp
But Sony says you can't judge it, so your opinion is preposterous.
As a ~6month Vita owner I can only say I hope it treats you better than it has me.
Sony may not want me to lay wrathful judgment upon the Vita as a whole for another three months, but I can sure quantify my experience over the previous six.
Could you say that again without the memespeak? Point to what you feel was 'herp de derp' specifically.
(GhostTrick, I'm not ignoring you, I'm just not going into my beef with the 3DS again).
Yes, it was shit for handheld gaming and it is a problem they had to kill it. With the cutted backward compability they literally destroyed a huge installed user base = bad sign for developers. They also killed a huge game library= bad sign for gamers.
What makes the problem even bigger is that with the cutted BC, PSP and PS Vita are standalone products. Competitors. One is having a huge library ( GTA, MH, GoW etc.), the other one... well...
Not Sony's fault that you bought it and refuse to buy any of the great games it gets. I bought a 3DS 8 months ago, never play it, but I don't act like it's because the library isn't good; I'm just not very interested in it (which is how you seem to be with the Vita).
TheMasterGoblin
Member
It's only preposterous if the Vita ends up being "successful" during the holidays.
Otherwise, if it "fails" during the holidays, everyone who has already judged it will look like a "genius"!
Otherwise, if it "fails" during the holidays, everyone who has already judged it will look like a "genius"!
The first six months to a year of the PSP also sucked as an early adopter, it's just the price we pay.
I practically wrote the PSP off in the first year, only for it to turn out to be a pretty solid investment with a ton of great games.
I rather expect the same for the Vita, but I should have been a little smarter to invest in it so early.
It's a barren wasteland with a beautiful screen.
I practically wrote the PSP off in the first year, only for it to turn out to be a pretty solid investment with a ton of great games.
I rather expect the same for the Vita, but I should have been a little smarter to invest in it so early.
It's a barren wasteland with a beautiful screen.
GhostTrick
Banned
There s no need to get into some beef or some debate. What Im just saying it that its kinda useless to get salty because 3DS is selling more than Vita. Its not because the 3DS is selling that the Vita is not selling. You know, if only Sony would make just one ad or two... it wouldnt kill. You re in your right to prefer Vita, each one has his own tastes, no problem with that. But I dont get what the 3DS did to make the Vita not selling. It is Sony fault, not the opposite.
The 3DS has also been out much longer.
I would say the 3DS had equally disastrous of a first 9months to a year as the Vita, if not far worse.
3DS was garbage at launch. So bad Nintendo had to apologize and give owners a bunch of free shit to make up for it. Sony should do the same with the Vita, because it's pretty pathetic.
The_Darkest_Red
Member
Also, I'm not cheapskate (at all, I invest a rather large amount of my disposable income to video gaming as a hobby) but Sony needs to do something about the price to storage ratio on Vita memory cards, because they're completely overpriced and absurdly small in storage capacity.
The PSP was the same way at launch, but eventually you could get enormous Memory Stick Duos at fairly reasonable prices. With the Vita it's even more unforgivable with the focus on digitally distributed content.
The PSP was the same way at launch, but eventually you could get enormous Memory Stick Duos at fairly reasonable prices. With the Vita it's even more unforgivable with the focus on digitally distributed content.
jeremy1456
Junior Member
I already pointed it out.
It was when you pointed out how many new IPs were in the top selling list on the 3DS. Instead of merely pointing out that there are none you instead made a sarcastic comment about it in a thread where most of the posters are already up in arms on both sides.
All I'm saying is you baited a bunch of people, then acted like you weren't trying to.
Father_Brain
Banned
No, it didn't, not by any quantifiable measure.
For the bolded part, that's not true at all. It basically feels like they are saving the big guns to work on PS4 while throw whatever resource they have left for VITA.
Another point is about how the sale trend is and how much you (or other VITA owners) enjoy the system. They are not related.
VITA is not gonna die because someone is "wishing for VITA's death". VITA is gonna die if it doesn't make itself more attractive to mass market since it is not right now.
See my point above. Besides, you are only proving that you are among the niche.
There are Dreamcast owners who would say it's the best system ever but that doesn't change the fact it wasn't selling much.
whoa dude.
GhostTrick
Banned
It depends, game wise, I do agree, Vita had a better launch for sure. Sale wise, 3DS did better. But I also agree, Vita could be successful, it just depend of Sony.
Nintendo made huge sacrifices: Price cut, salary cut, free games for early adopters.
Sony just cant sit and wait something to happen, they have to act now.
Except the Vita already has games that are like a million times superior to any iOS game.
bishopcruz
Member
Early PSP was grim, UI had one near launch, and there was not really a ton of stuff until after GTA and a few other games swung the perception. I mean, I did have the Legend of Heroes games, but the less said about Namco's butchering of that series the better. I think if Killzone and AC can make some waves then others will follow, but Sony did kinda mess up in letting it's biggest draw in Japan, Monster Hunter, get away. That was just dumb.
Uh... Not in terms of sales. Hell, they were above DS during the same timeframe.
GTA was released only months after the PSP was launched and did quite well.
In fact until the late summer of 05 people said the DS was the one with no games and it wasn't until the Lite launched with NSMB did the DS finally bury the PSP once and for all.
That's just trollish. Same argument can be made for 3DS but people are buying it.
The_Darkest_Red
Member
Absolutely. That's why I got a small 8 GB stick at launch and have been going with physical copies whenever possible; it's only a matter of time before you'll be able to buy high capacity cards at a cheap price (assuming the PSP is something to go by and also that the Vita doesn't fail miserably in the near future).
Can someone lock this thread, and keep Vita sales discussions restricted to actual Sales Age threads? There is never anything new being discussed with these threads. It's the same stuff over and over again with those who don't have any intention of ever buying the device, those that do own it, and those that are on the fence.
Admittedly, it is pretty easy to ignore these threads, as this is my first post in this one, but it's getting to the point where those who post in the Vita Discussion thread are talking about posts in this thread.
Admittedly, it is pretty easy to ignore these threads, as this is my first post in this one, but it's getting to the point where those who post in the Vita Discussion thread are talking about posts in this thread.
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