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The day Randy can't hit the RKO anymore will be a sad one. It's such an impactful and versatile finisher, and it's one of the best protected finishers too.
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July Wrasslin |OT| The Rings a Field, the Field of War, Thats Where We Lay the Law
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Steen will be over like rover, dude.
Macho Madness
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My weekly tops and flops article is now up:
At first I read that as "former WWE Superstar" instead of "former WWE World Heavyweight Champion". I guess I'm just expecting his retirement at this point.
Side Note: Why is it still called "World Heavyweight Championship"? There's hasn't been any division by weight since 2007.
To be honest, these days it almost seems like it's either that or jobbing (in battle royals at best).
slightconfuse
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Talkin shop is pretty great
Not really. There is a "main event" and upper card, below the face of the company.
It's far from ideal but it's not "Cena and everyone else is a jobber".
Lambda Pie
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Sibersk Esto
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Their signs have a way nicer fontJapanese crowd representing
Mr. Enigma
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I hope KENTA is looking forward to being the next Yoshi Tatsu.
Lambda Pie
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KENTA will ask for his release within 2 years.
Seraphis Cain
bad gameplay lol
I wish I had the money to pre-order two copies of Akiba's Trip after reading this. I'll just have to settle for the one, I suppose.
EDIT: Also are you confusing XSeed and Akiba's Trip with NISA and that awful, horrible Criminal Girls game?
British Monsoon
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Aaaaaaaand, there's next month's thread title.
I wonder if it says more about the state of WWE or of it's audience that wrestling fans can be such a pessimistic bunch.
See I kinda put the bolded in that same "top" umbrella, especially since most of them are frequently in title matches. The hierarchy seems to go:
- Cena
- Would be top guys if not for Cena (ex. Orton, Bryan pre-injury, Punk when he was around)
- Upper card guys that still get title shots pretty often, usually because they're filling those last couple spots in Elimination Chambers and MITBs (ex. Cesaro, Sheamus)
- IC/US division (IC basically being the jobbers championship until recently)
- jobbers
- Divas
I guess you could argue that it's kinda always been like that, but there's no angles for anyone other than Cena, the would-be top guys, and a few of the upper card guys like Bray. Then you have the barebones story for the divas. The rest of the guys just seem to be wrestling matches just because, so that's why it seems to be such a huge divide.
I think if KENTA can rich the "Upper card guys" spot he would be considered a great success, given the history of Japanese wrestlers in WWE.
Bit of both. It's really easy to be negative and just have a moan but at the same it's hard to be positive with Vince & Dunn still running the show and the companies track record speaks for itself.
I believe its both. Its improved greatly because right now I doubt anyone would believe a couple years ago the show would be carried by Husky Harris, two Indie guys and a guy that wasn't even wrestling yet.
Plus the thing with Kenta is truthfully has there ever been a well booked Japanese talent on a wrestling show that airs on tv?
BoboBrazil
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Does Kenta speak English?
The highest a Japanese wrestler has ever climbed WWE ranks was Tajiri winning the United States title once.
So tell me, your statement of 'generic cynicism' vs my statement of Tajiri playing a pervert creep, a yakuza boss, Suzuki playing a wife beating, Japanese imperialist, Taka and Funaki using Godzilla dubs and 'choppy choppy your pee pee', Yoshi being named Yoshi and coming out to DDR music,
Yeah guys, you should totally be optimistic about KENTA's chances.
So tell me, your statement of 'generic cynicism' vs my statement of Tajiri playing a pervert creep, a yakuza boss, Suzuki playing a wife beating, Japanese imperialist, Taka and Funaki using Godzilla dubs and 'choppy choppy your pee pee', Yoshi being named Yoshi and coming out to DDR music,
Yeah guys, you should totally be optimistic about KENTA's chances.
Sure, but not even a hint of interest or excitement at the potential matches he could have in NXT with guys like Zayn, Devitt, Steen or Neville? Just "who cares yoshi tatsu let's move on"?
BoboBrazil
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Kenta is a HHH signing, so he will get the chance to succeed just like Sin Cara and Kharma got. It's up to him to succeed with that chance.
Kenta's theme: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNEEZKtX9Mg
How about "open minded" and "seeing where it's goes" instead of complaining and dismissing before the ink is dry on his contract?
If it turns out bad, it turns out bad, oh well. It's this process of writing him off instantly with complete apathy that is tiresome. He's being given a fair amount of hype for his signing (he is certainly the first to have his signing announced on WWE.com since at least Sin Cara three years ago), he'll be going to a stimulating environment in NXT, and I hope to enjoy what he does.
That's all.
Don't worry, Ithil... I agree with you!
Well that does kinda suck but I suppose if you don't watch NXT then you're just waiting for Vince to get hold of him a few months down the line and ruin him.
Nocturnowl
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But what happens when he has to choose between his love for pillow-chan or the temptations of a 1000 year old demon? I can smell the high drama already.
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Kenta to be managed by a 1000 year old deamon.
I'm saying when you have a track record THAT bad, you have to prove to me that you can do right. WWE no longer gets a 'free pass' with this stuff, they have fucked up so many times in the past that they have to prove otherwise. They are guilty of this bullshit until they prove otherwise because they've fucked up too many times before.
Not sure if Bayley or AJ.
Down with the swirl
I would question the tolerance for pain and boredom if you set through 3 hours of RAW every week but ignore 45 minutes of NXT a week.
Maybe that's the reason I don't give as much of a shit about the main roster and its terrible management in Vince and Beaver Fever.
I understand the reason, and they have a terrible, terrible track record with Japanese stars, but they are handling guys like Sami Zayn and Adrian Neville as the top guys in NXT, which they never would have had under Johnny Ace. Zayn in particular seems to be HHH's favourite, non-body builder as he is, so I've been given enough rope to think he (KENTA) will at least do well in NXT for the time being and potentially become a "HHH guy", which means a lot more than being a Vince guy.
On the main roster, you've got shit commentary that refuses to put over anything (and incoming Sum Ting Wong racism from Lawler), Vince not giving a shit about anyone that isn't handpicked, Dunn shitting on all of HHH's call-ups, etc. So that's when you get worried.
For now, I'm interested to see how he does in NXT. I'll sweat the other stuff when it comes.
British Monsoon
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Yeah, I agree with this entirely - I'm not particularly bothered that he doesn't have history on his side, I'm just excited to see how he does. Sure, he might be treated poorly in the long run, but that'll be a matter for then. There's no point being dismissive of every talent move WWE makes, they don't hire guys to be failures, so people should perhaps just at least wait until he's got inside a WWE ring before dismissing his potential or deciding WWE will never properly utilise said potential.
This line of reasoning is hard when Raw is being carried now by top young talent like the shield guys, Bray and others.
The whole thing is not Vince or Dunn its just seems like no wrestling company on tv has figured out how to get a Japanese talent over. TNA had the New Japan champion in there company but never used him.
Its just a lot easier for Americans to come over to Japan then it is the other way. In Japan you get booked well, there is no tv and you get over by wrestling. They don't even know how to speak Japanese. All they do is learn some phrases and say ever English curse word possible.
Perspicacity
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I should probably make the August thread so that it comes out light and playful.
Lambda Pie
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this is gonna be, 100%, KENTA's gimmick in the E:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kx66GFpYO1I
difference is Jienotsu actually got over.
you've been warned, friends.
Well this is it you all might be getting your wish.
Can you feel that release?
WWE's been needing to trim the fat for a while. Hopefully Rosa's gone next.
1000 year old demon is now being played by Alexa Bliss.
WWE's been needing to trim the fat for a while. Hopefully Rosa's gone next.
Rosa's going on Total Divas, she'll be safe for a while.
British Monsoon
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I'm sad that Riley will never get a 3rd anecdote to add to "that time I feuded with the Miz" and "that time I teamed with John Cena". Poor guy.
