Embargoes are common, but they're not usually maintained this close to release, particularly for a film this high-profile.
That movie's embargo ended over a week before its release date.
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Jurassic World |OT| WARNING! Safety Not, uh, Guaranteed | RT: 71?!%
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That movie's embargo ended over a week before its release date.
Do you remember them opening doors in JP 1? They could easily learn to ride motorcycles in 20 years.
Jeffolation
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Rewatched The Lost World to reset my expectation meter back to zero, late date for lifting review embargo also a bit worrisome.
RPGCrazied
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Next thing you know you'll be agreeing with them talking or shooting machine guns.
They may be smart and cunning, but operating a vehicle I still think is kinda silly.
More_Badass
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It's not shopped. Why do you think people have been saying this movie is going to be shit?
So my kid is addicted to jurassic park, so I've had to watch it a few times. I'm catching all sorts of weird stuff in it:
- What ever happened to Sam Jackson's character? He disappears after they restore power.
- How did Sam Neil and the kids make it all the way back to complex? That was a lot of distance to cover without a jeep. Especially after one gets sparked up.
- What ever happened to Sam Jackson's character? He disappears after they restore power.
- How did Sam Neil and the kids make it all the way back to complex? That was a lot of distance to cover without a jeep. Especially after one gets sparked up.
Charles Foster Kane
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But do the dinos do stunts?
brandonh83
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I'm just glad someone finally had the balls to put dinosaurs on vehicles. And motorcycles are just the beginning. You know. Baby steps.
Next thing you know you'll be agreeing with them talking or shooting machine guns.
They may be smart and cunning, but operating a vehicle I still think is kinda silly.
Oh, but they do. After driving their cycles, the raptors fetch their commando gear and go all SWAT on the Indominus or anyone else who gets in their way.
He got eaten. Remember the arm?
bananafactory
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Did you miss Dr Sattler finding Sam Jackson's arm?
Can't wait!!!
What confused me as a child was how his lone arm was just chillin there, uneaten and everything, posed carefully into the corner. Raptors are crafty. And pranksters.
Skiptastic
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Just finished screening of this. Terrible dialogue and plot. Last sequence is awesome but overall, no, just disappointing.
It certainly doesn't sound like a slam; Ottman's work on Returns was fantastic, and the best Superman score since Williams' work.
RPGCrazied
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I think I've been had, nicely played all. That was from a parody trailer, and thank god.
Anton Sugar
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I don't know why, but watching it through this weekend, I was really aware of when the film just locked me in. The trike is a solid lead-in to the Rex scene, but even the Rex breakout isn't presented with an overhanging sense of foreboding. I mean, we see the goat, but there are no sinister music cues. The kids are playing around, annoying Gennaro, Grant and Malcolm are shooting the shit/talking about Ellie...and then Tim notices the vibrations. From that moment until they escape the Rex is insanely taut and still pretty terrifying.
Same with the raptor escape, and I might agree that it is sustained for a longer period of time. I had forgotten about the discovery of the raptor cage being torn apart and how much of an "oh my GOD" moment that was.
Plus, that snake on the branch shot--so fucking good. Even if it really doesn't make much sense, considering what we know about dinos now, it felt like something Spielberg just had in his head and had to get out (in a good way).
I'm not the most familiar with Crichton, but didn't he have a weird and somewhat contradictory anti-science bend to a lot of his work? Maybe not anti-science, but anti-genetic research? Hope I'm not confusing him with someone else...
Oh, and your other post re: the Rex. YES! That's exactly what I said in a thread earlier this week. The characters AND the audience feel completely at the mercy of this terrifyingly curious animal. The way it kinda plays with the fence, how it follows the flare with its head, the way it really just toys with and explore the jeep, not really understanding "what" is inside. It's fantastic, and one of the reasons I'm really excited for JW, as it treats the raptors as animals, not just hunting predators (which worked really well for JP, FWIW).
Plot I'm not so worried about. I'm pretty sensitive to terrible dialogue however, and impressions on this front seem mixed.
Anton Sugar
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I heard the dialogue was pretty bad. When's the last time you saw The Lost World? I'm looking for a comparison to the horrible dialogue there.
What about the action/suspense sequences? I heard the last 20 mins are awesome, but in general, how was it?
I think you mean 22 years.
If it's TLW status dialogue, I can take it. JP3 though, I will eject right out of there
Bobby Roberts
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I know some people conflate the quality of a film with the quality of its score, so I wanted to make sure that wasn't the case.
Ottman's score is probably the best thing to come out of that movie.
brandonh83
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But is it better than TLW and JP3?
CharminUltra
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Wait, Raptor bikers are actually in the movie? It's not just some clever joke?
hammertomb
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I can confirm that they're in the movie.
Anton Sugar
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Oh yeah TLW had way better dialogue
Oh dad you're such a troglodyte!
Cut the umbilical, dad!
But really
RPGCrazied
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http://www.digitaltrends.com/movies...aptors-motorcycles-brings-back-jeff-goldblum/
Its over guys, I had a laugh at myself. The dream is dead.
bananafactory
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Charles Foster Kane
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Is most of the dialogue like the one in the "sexist" clip
maquiladora
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I'm expecting to hear this a lot in the reviews....
Oh just assume since it was a black guys arm ;p
Elwood Blues
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The first half of the movie is nothing but Chris Pratt meticulously teaching raptors how to balance on a motorcycle.
Ninja Scooter
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I came upon this while searching for Jurassic Park stuff.
How is that even a question? Who wouldn't choose Malcolm?
No, just noting that it's been 22 years since the last critically acclaimed installment.
Anton Sugar
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Yeah, I definitely had some rose-colored glasses on when I used to think of TLW. It was panned as a pretty mediocre movie, if I recall.
Jurassic Park has had its share as well. Metacritic, while holding onto the few old sources it could considering it came out in '93, has a 68/100 score.
JP: 68/100 (user score 8.6)
TLW: 59/100 (user score 7.4)
JPIII: 42/100 (user score 6.3)
I looked at RT but I can't take it as a way to gauge the critical response when it came out because it's flooded with recent reviews.
Skiptastic
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1. I haven't seen Lost World in years so hard to compare dialogue. But I remember hating it. Majorly hating it. So probably pretty equal. No "gymnastics " scene though.
2. Answered below but the last 20 are pretty good. The rest are not as good (to me). I prefer the scenes of dinos chasing people who barely escape more than dinos just eating faceless military/park folks or park goers.
Well I'm a weirdo who enjoyed JP3 more than TLW, but as meh as this is, I think it is better than both. I think I was more frustrated at TLW because of what it should have been with that cast and crew. Didn't have high expectations for 3 or World so they didn't sting as much.
This isn't a spoiler thread and I just got home! I was still in the theater when I wrote that "review".Can you give us a more detailed review? Please?
More details without spoilers:
- The "villains" are so obvious and the things they say are just so mind numbing, but I will give Vincent D some dap for hamming it up a bit. He did make the character at least a bit eccentric with rally REALLY boring dialogue. The doctor is a villain for no good reason. They have information "classified" for no good reason. Just...what?
- The kids are pretty boring/cliche until halfway through. Then they go from annoying to tolerable. But you're not really given a reason to like them like you were with the kids from the first movie. So you don't care about them too much.
- Bryce Dallas Howard's character is the only one who has some sort of an arc but none of it is believable. She goes from prissy to rugged in, like, one scene for a justification that isn't believable or earned. As in, she has given no indication that the impetus for her change would actually lead to that change. Oh and the romantic angle between her and Pratt is unbelievable. They should have gone for a Furiosa/Max relationship.
- Chris Pratt and Jake Johnson are good but it's because they are essentially playing themselves and they are likable people. Not really great dialogue for Pratt but he does what he can I guess. Johnson had some funny bits.
- If you heard the last twenty minutes are good it's because it is so much better than the rest of the film. The last sequence is pretty cool. The action scenes are just meh for the rest of it. No real stakes. Faceless people go in to fight dinosaurs, Dino's get upper hand, eat all people except the main actors. Just boring. It's too frenetic to know what's going on other than people dying and you don't care about them so why care?
- The big bad dinosaur is too OP and it just had one wrinkle of new power after another that is kinda lame. Maybe the film itself is some sort of meta commentary about film goers?
The people at the park are bored with regular dinosaurs so they made a super dinosaur. And they think film goers are the same way so they made the indominus Rex instead of a story with normal dinosaurs?
If it sounds like I'm down on it, it's because they bring back a franchise from the dead after ten plus years (I think?) and they didn't do anything interesting.
I don't think anything in there is too spoilers but if it is I'll spoiler tag it.
I also apologize if I ramble or am incoherent. I just got home, I am typing this on my phone and I'm not great at putting my thoughts together sometimes.
One final final thought: I was disappointed but my brother in law loved it and I think it will do boffo box office bucks.
ONLY a 68?! Sounds like it must be an awful movie!!
All JW needs is a 70 to be the best rated Jurassic movie in the franchise on Metacritic. That would be hilaaaaarious
Anton Sugar
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Bummer, but thank you for elaborating. Glad to hear it's at least better than TLW/JP3
Jawmuncher
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I came upon this while searching for Jurassic Park stuff.
Even as a kid I always had trouble deciding who was cooler. Grant knew about the dinosaurs, but Malcolm had the cool factor going for him along with the black clothes. Even today I don't think I can choose one over the other even taking into account TLW and JP3.
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