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[Net_Wrecker]

How do you do that. I spend the whole time just reading the words on the screen. You miss so much of the show.

Watch more foreign movies. It's pretty easy to figure out when you need to see an actor's facial expression vs. when it's safe to read. Just takes training.

Oh and Marshall Stiffy™. That's a thing now.

 

[WastedJoker]

I watch so much foreign film that I now watch English language movies with subtitles because it feels weird not to read the words

 

[NotTheGuyYouKill]

If little Timmy has truly gone to the great dinosaur park in the sky then I am mighty disappointed. The show is going great but I thought Preacher Billy had HUGE potential. I honestly thought he would play a part in whatever seasonal endgame they have planned.

I bet his sister comes back for revenge. With a lot of snakes.

 

[Night_Trekker]

She used a pretty standard technique for psychic in that she guessed at a few small things and then when she was right, she let the person fill in all of the blanks. Raylan is the one who told her (he was actually telling Tim) what gym and at what time he was meeting Randall.

Oh wow, she was warm reading him? I didn't notice that. I'll be interested to rewatch those scenes now.

Of course, I think enough of the writers not to be surprised.

 

[Cornballer]

If little Timmy has truly gone to the great dinosaur park in the sky then I am mighty disappointed. The show is going great but I thought Preacher Billy had HUGE potential. I honestly thought he would play a part in whatever seasonal endgame they have planned.

That was sort of the point (abruptly pulling the rug out on a character that looked to be a long term foe for Boyd) according to the writer's recap that they posted yesterday. Unfortunately, they took down the blog from yesterday (Q&A with “Truth and Consequences” Writer Ben Cavell) and I don't know if/when they're going to rehost it. I'm probably not explaining as well as I can, but they wanted to ratchet up the tension and the shock value in that scene by making it a surprise that Billy went out so quickly. I'll link the blog if they put it up again and you all can read through it. Obviously intent doesn't equal proper execution and a good reaction from the audience, and a number of people here seem dissatisfied with the way that all shook out. I thought the scene itself worked pretty well, though I'll be disappointed if that's the last we see of Billy as he was a character with some promise.

Oh wow, she was warm reading him? I didn't notice that. I'll be interested to rewatch those scenes now.

Of course, I think enough of the writers not to be surprised.

According to the writers, it was intentionally vague and it's up to your interpretation whether or not she was doing a warm reading in that scene.

 

[metsallica]

Wait, hold up, Billy's supposed to be dead? I know Harlan is a backwater but it's not that bad, come on. One rattlesnake bite? Yost has to be pulling our chain, right? They were hardly definitive about it!

 

[Cornballer]

Wait, hold up, Billy's supposed to be dead? I know Harlan is a backwater but it's not that bad, come on. One rattlesnake bite? Yost has to be pulling our chain, right? They were hardly definitive about it!

A lot of times on this show they're vague about character deaths on screen so they can bring them back later if they want to. They've done this a few times before.

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However, the interview seems pretty definitive: "Q: So Billy is dead. A: Yes. Much to Joe Mazzello’s chagrin."

 

[The Lamonster]

A lot of times on this show they're vague about character deaths on screen so they can bring them back later if they want to. They've done this a few times before.

Spoiler

However, the interview seems pretty definitive: "Q: So Billy is dead. A: Yes. Much to Joe Mazzello’s chagrin."

Yep, Johnny Crowder is a great example of that.

 

[outunderthestars]

A lot of times on this show they're vague about character deaths on screen so they can bring them back later if they want to. They've done this a few times before.

Spoiler

However, the interview seems pretty definitive: "Q: So Billy is dead. A: Yes. Much to Joe Mazzello’s chagrin."

Spoiler

I don't know about that. IMDB has him listed for quite a few more episodes this season

 

[T Dollarz]

This season is really great so far, much better than last year. I love this show. The characters are awesome.

 

[Cornballer]

Spoiler

I don't know about that. IMDB has him listed for quite a few more episodes this season

Spoiler

Interesting. I wouldn't be too surprised if Yost is just messing around in the interview and he has a larger role to play later this season. That being said, IMDB has been wrong on these sorts of things in the past. Guess we'll have to wait and see.

 

[The Lamonster]

Why would Arlo go so far as to murder someone in prison to cover up Drew Thompson's identity? What role did Arlo play besides hiding the credentials in his house?

May or may not be related: Is Raylan adopted?

 

[metsallica]

A lot of times on this show they're vague about character deaths on screen so they can bring them back later if they want to. They've done this a few times before.

Spoiler

However, the interview seems pretty definitive: "Q: So Billy is dead. A: Yes. Much to Joe Mazzello’s chagrin."

Oh I know, that's why I was so taken aback. Mark me down in Camp Joshin'.

 

[NotTheGuyYouKill]

Why would Arlo go so far as to murder someone in prison to cover up Drew Thompson's identity? What role did Arlo play besides hiding the credentials in his house?

May or may not be related: Is Raylan adopted?

Probably has something to do with the fact that Theo Tonin is involved. I doubt Raylan's adopted though.

 

[Fry]

well, in that case ma'am, I think we've misjudged each other

 

[alcide]

Watch more foreign movies. It's pretty easy to figure out when you need to see an actor's facial expression vs. when it's safe to read. Just takes training.

Why don't you just read a book with pictures ...

 

[Dominican Power]

I had forgotten how good was this show. So, so good.

Random notes:

• That snake-bang scene was nasty as hell
• Isn't the preacher's sister True Blood's werepanther?
• I told you the bartender was the trashiest piece of trash of the trailer park
• Man, Raylan knows how to pick them
• Stiffies all around

I was trying to figure out where I saw her before. In the trailer

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it looks like Lindsey calls Raylan

 

[Cornballer]

Please remember to spoiler tag preview discussion. Thank you.

 

[RatskyWatsky]

That was sort of the point (abruptly pulling the rug out on a character that looked to be a long term foe for Boyd) according to the writer's recap that they posted yesterday. Unfortunately, they took down the blog from yesterday (Q&A with “Truth and Consequences” Writer Ben Cavell) and I don't know if/when they're going to rehost it. I'm probably not explaining as well as I can, but they wanted to ratchet up the tension and the shock value in that scene by making it a surprise that Billy went out so quickly. I'll link the blog if they put it up again and you all can read through it. Obviously intent doesn't equal proper execution and a good reaction from the audience, and a number of people here seem dissatisfied with the way that all shook out. I thought the scene itself worked pretty well, though I'll be disappointed if that's the last we see of Billy as he was a character with some promise.

According to the writers, it was intentionally vague and it's up to your interpretation whether or not she was doing a warm reading in that scene.

Imagine if they had done the same thing with Mags...

 

[Cornballer]

Imagine if they had done the same thing with Mags...

They've killed a long list of entertaining villains that had potential on this show, so I don't see this as much of an anomaly if he's actually dead. This frees them up to spend more time with Raylan, Boyd, and the rest of the marshals, which is what most people were clamoring for after last season.

 

[BenjaminBirdie]

They've killed a long list of entertaining villains that had potential on this show, so I don't see this as much of an anomaly if he's actually dead. This frees them up to spend more time with Raylan, Boyd, and the rest of the marshals, which is what most people were clamoring for after last season.

It also gives Miss Panther motivation to be a real stick in the mud.

 

[iNvid02]

I missed this show, 3 eps in and marshall stiffies all round

 

[Dan]

That was sort of the point (abruptly pulling the rug out on a character that looked to be a long term foe for Boyd) according to the writer's recap that they posted yesterday.

That'd be fine, but I think the execution was pretty poor if Yost isn't jerking us around.

Spoiler

If you're going to build up a character like that and cut him down, do it definitively so it actually has impact. I didn't even consider until that interview that he was dead. Last we see he's got a single snake bite, he's seizing up and they're looking to call an ambulance. That doesn't read at all like a sudden and definitive end to an antagonist. That's a sloppy fizzling out, not an impactful left turn.

 

[Cornballer]

That'd be fine, but I think the execution was pretty poor if Yost isn't jerking us around.

Spoiler

If you're going to build up a character like that and cut him down, do it definitively so it actually has impact. I didn't even consider until that interview that he was dead. Last we see he's got a single snake bite, he's seizing up and they're looking to call an ambulance. That doesn't read at all like a sudden and definitive end to an antagonist. That's a sloppy fizzling out, not an impactful left turn.

Spoiler

Yeah, I guess we'll have to wait and see what happens. I suppose over-analysis is one of the risks of doing all of these recaps and interviews. We probably wouldn't be having this conversation if Yost hadn't said something about it.

 

[Dan]

Spoiler

Yeah, I guess we'll have to wait and see what happens. I suppose over-analysis is one of the risks of doing all of these recaps and interviews. We probably wouldn't be having this conversation if Yost hadn't said something about it.

Spoiler

Indeed. I certainly never would have brought it up without that interview. Death was not on my mind at all. I'll be curious to see if the next episode expects us to already believe Billy died, if maybe it's revealed to Boyd the next day or what.

 

[Wiktor]

I loved the scene in front of the gym. The tension was incredible.

 

[The Lamonster]

I loved the scene in front of the gym. The tension was incredible.

It went from zero to incredibly heavy in just a few seconds. Great acting and, as always, great writing for that scene.

 

[Grizzlyjin]

That'd be fine, but I think the execution was pretty poor if Yost isn't jerking us around.

Spoiler

If you're going to build up a character like that and cut him down, do it definitively so it actually has impact. I didn't even consider until that interview that he was dead. Last we see he's got a single snake bite, he's seizing up and they're looking to call an ambulance. That doesn't read at all like a sudden and definitive end to an antagonist. That's a sloppy fizzling out, not an impactful left turn.

To be fair

Spoiler

I don't think he is the antagonist, all signs point to his sister being the one who calls the shots. The Wizard behind the curtains. I think her reaction to what Boyd did is what will drive the rest of their arc

 

[RdN]

All those snakes freaked me out.. a lot.

Great episode, otherwise.

 

[Cornballer]

- In Conversation: Timothy Olyphant and Walton Goggins (~30 min vimeo vid)

I think this is off of the S3 blu-ray special features. I've only seen the first few minutes but this is fantastic and hilarious. Definitely check it out when you have a chance.

 

[Frost_Ace]

- In Conversation: Timothy Olyphant and Walton Goggins (~30 min vimeo vid)

I think this is off of the S3 blu-ray special features. I've only seen the first few minutes but this is fantastic and hilarious. Definitely check it out when you have a chance.

Gogging watching Downton Abbey with his in-laws :lol

 

[dead souls]

- In Conversation: Timothy Olyphant and Walton Goggins (~30 min vimeo vid)

I think this is off of the S3 blu-ray special features. I've only seen the first few minutes but this is fantastic and hilarious. Definitely check it out when you have a chance.

Thanks for the link. I listened to it while I ate breakfast this morning and it was interesting.

 

[AwesomeSauce]

Just caught up.

And man this season has been fantastic so far.

 

[Cornballer]

- The production blog for last week (talking snakes, Billy, Wynn Duffy, and Drew Thompson's ex-wife) is back up: Q&A with “Truth and Consequences” Writer Ben Cavell

 

[metsallica]

Did they edit it?

 

[Cornballer]

Did they edit it?

At a glance, I don't think so. It looks about the same length and addresses the same questions. It might have just been accidentally posted early since they usually like to space out the content each week.

 

[Cornballer]

New episode tonight:

This Bird Has Flown

Spoiler

Raylan's hunt for his stolen money leads to a confrontation with a brawler; Boyd and Ava face a decision that threatens to destroy them.

 

[Niraj]

New episode tonight:

That could've said just about anything and I'd still be equally excited.

 

[Cornballer]

New episode is on in a few minutes. I'm not going to get a chance to watch live tonight, but I'll catch up in an hour or so.

 

[Niraj]

I have such a marshal stiffy right now

Spoiler

hopefully this means Rachel's going to be prominent tonight

 

[Niraj]

"Bitches, chill"
"Oh, so you're funny now.'
Great dialogue so far lol

 

[Future Foundation]

"Bitches, chill"

That felt like the spiritual successor to "Bitches, leave."

 

[Niraj]

That felt like the spiritual successor to "Bitches, leave."

Lol I thought of that as well. Good stuff.

 

[Raxus]

It is strange but the 'one-off' episodes of justifed are always fantastic.

 

[Ducarmel]

lol

 

[Dwayne]

My partner and I watched the very first episode of season 1 of Justified. It seems okay, but it didn't really hook us and we wondered if there is a larger (interesting) story going on, or does he just tackle badguys each episode? If someone could give a spoiler-free reply, that'd be great.

 

[Niraj]

lol he's a man of his word

Also, Ava's looking mighty fine. Had to be said.

 

[Niraj]

My partner and I watched the very first episode of season 1 of Justified. It seems okay, but it didn't really hook us and we wondered if there is a larger (interesting) story going on, or does he just tackle badguys each episode? If someone could give a spoiler-free reply, that'd be great.

There are quite a few one offs in the first season especially, but there's a larger storyline that picks up as it continues. 2 and 3 are more cohesive narratives as well.

 

[Ducarmel]

Ellen may smarter then I thought!

 

[Dwayne]

There are quite a few one offs in the first season especially, but there's a larger storyline that picks up as it continues. 2 and 3 are more cohesive narratives as well.

Thanks for that