Lean into the Jazz Fusion and Soul/Funk imo, straight up Weather Report, Chick Corea, Billy Cobham, jazz fusion hip hop destruction. So far loving what I am hearing, just started spinning the record.
Keep it West Coast forever too, obviously.
Kendrick Lamar - To Pimp A Butterfly |OT| It's The American Dream
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Lean into the Jazz Fusion and Soul/Funk imo, straight up Weather Report, Chick Corea, Billy Cobham, jazz fusion hip hop destruction. So far loving what I am hearing, just started spinning the record.
Keep it West Coast forever too, obviously.
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Agreed.
SimpleGamer
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Rap world problems.
no, you just don't like it.
Grover Cleveland
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Ken Masters bout to flip out
I signed up for a month trial just to hear this yesterday morning. So much hype.
at this point more brehs have been like "are you all really arguing about boo boo" than originally (and largely jokingly) discussed the term
_illmatic_
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lol, good for Kenny though.
Been listening to this for 2 1/2 days straight now. Pretty confident in saying this is the best album I've listened to in many years. Maybe it's just where I'm at right now, but it hits every note for me perfectly. Kendrick doing God's work.
BeatResetsTheWorld
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Kendrick didn't want to get bodied on another track by a guest feature again
Ocarina_117
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After many forced listens, I just don't feel this project man. The album just really hasn't registered with me in it's entirety as of yet.
I've loved Kendrick from when I first heard his buried alive skit on Take care. Immediately listened through section 80, listened through nearly everything of his on youtube - cartoons and cereal, look out for detox, Hiipower and his dumb it down remix.
I mean, I appreciate his attempt to push the envelope in a genre which is becoming more and more stagnant. I dig the OutKast vibes from the production, but I still cant fuck with the album as a whole, maybe it's his flow? I don't know. I get the same feeling from his flow on this album as I did from Eminem's accents on Relapse. However at the same time I appreciate his attempt at approaching the album differently, going for something more than a standard rap flow.
I don't know, maybe it needs time to marinate and some day I'll come back to it and truly appreciate it. But as of yet I get part way through and end up switching back to Testuo & youth.
In short, i don't feel this album and I feel bad for not feeling this album
I've loved Kendrick from when I first heard his buried alive skit on Take care. Immediately listened through section 80, listened through nearly everything of his on youtube - cartoons and cereal, look out for detox, Hiipower and his dumb it down remix.
I mean, I appreciate his attempt to push the envelope in a genre which is becoming more and more stagnant. I dig the OutKast vibes from the production, but I still cant fuck with the album as a whole, maybe it's his flow? I don't know. I get the same feeling from his flow on this album as I did from Eminem's accents on Relapse. However at the same time I appreciate his attempt at approaching the album differently, going for something more than a standard rap flow.
I don't know, maybe it needs time to marinate and some day I'll come back to it and truly appreciate it. But as of yet I get part way through and end up switching back to Testuo & youth.
In short, i don't feel this album and I feel bad for not feeling this album
RPS37
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I'm pleased.
Yep, that part was brilliant. I first thought the pop was the one immediately after 'the funk shall be within you' but nope. Amazing stuff.
Yaphett Kotto
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that song is so gleefully demented, I love it
Yaphett Kotto
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Yea, that is why it is also so good. I feel emotional from what is said and the very disingenuous sound behind his words really drives it home.
it's like the polar opposite to Poetic Justice. the music in Poetic Justice has this haunting allure to it. it sounds a bit hollow, likely because we as the audience already know that shit goes down so the allure can't be fully effective, but the music still manages to entice the ear. For Sale? doesn't even need that because obviously Sherane ain't got nothing on the devil. Lucy doesn't really need to work hard to lure you in, it's basically inevitable. the track is like the musical equivalent of the devil just innocently batting his eyes at Kendrick.
it's just a wild track and it grows on me with each listen. the imagery created from the music, lyrics, and the vocals is crazy.
Listened to the album once yesterday. I couldn't get into GKMC the first time, but I had a better first impression of this. I'll have to listen to it a couple more, but I don't really feel like there's a weak track. By weak, I mean thematically or finally inconsistent. I think we all know Kendrick is a good writer but I think the important thing is to understand how the album works together as a whole. It's just that kind of thing. There are some slow songs, of which I'm not sure that I like though.
I also don't think it's comparable to GKMC at all, and I want to try to understand it in its own context (with the content solely on this album) rather than as a piece of history in the context of the artists discography (judging it in relation to his other albums).
I also don't think it's comparable to GKMC at all, and I want to try to understand it in its own context (with the content solely on this album) rather than as a piece of history in the context of the artists discography (judging it in relation to his other albums).
TheExhaustedWalrus
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I think he tries electronic/wonky stuff. I feel like he'll try something like Flying Lotus does but maybe with heavier beats and more abstract lyricism.
Yaphett Kotto
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Yes, exactly. Poetic Justice was the inevitable happening, but it still got its job done, but For Sale? ties everything in with the music playing as a wolf in sheep clothing which helps with creating the image of the devil being a sneaky bastard and making everything he is presenting you with - money, fame, and getting your mom out of the hood - looking genuinely good. The lyrics tell you that Lamar is already sold and it shows later on in the following tracks. The kid pretty much telling Kendrick he knows shit and the homeless man being a test from God.
This album is too good, man. I also love that he tied in GKMC, and a little bit of Section 80, into the album. It really feels like a sequel.
yeah foreal. his verse about the dude who shot Dave in These Walls was just...I don't even know.
also I love the intro to Hood Politics with the dude leaving a voice message. makes me think of Spiteful Chant.
Christberg
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Lucy-fer... why didn't I pick up on that earlier *forehead smack
The beat for that part is so good. Every time it plays I'm just bumping my head with it.
I was wondering what he meant. Lol thanks
Pinko Marx
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That girl is America. She even says "I'm going to get my Uncle Sam on you".
yeah true but lucy is more of a representation. you can't really sell your soul to the devil for free. that song takes place before kendrick had become big so it just shows how he gets treated differently. before it was in lucy's best interest to just keep him down and perpetuate the cycle but when he starts making money she's very different, aka in for sale.
Pinko Marx
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I still say she's America. He references America several times. "I need my 40 acres and a mule, not a 40 ounce with 2 pitbulls." America owes blacks, this dick ain't free.
Oh she's definitely America.
http://genius.com/Kendrick-lamar-for-free-interlude-lyrics?
who says america isn't included under that umbrella? are you saying america is run by a majority of people that are morally sound, void of any evils?
Pinko Marx
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lucy's the devil
edit: so in for free My other nigga is on, you off.
in for sale Lucy got million stories
About these rappers I came after when they was boring
Junior Mint
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Mortal Man gives me fucking goosebumps
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I can't think of anything to say here that won't sound like trolling or hating...but man, I'll never listen to this again. i really tried.
I could even get into everything he has to say, because his flow, beats and track construction are SO annoying.
Don't take me wrong...I love hip hop. I love HiiiPower, Bitch Don't Kill By Vibe, Swimming Pools, Poetic Justice and a lot of his features. But to me he just sounds crazy now.
I could even get into everything he has to say, because his flow, beats and track construction are SO annoying.
Don't take me wrong...I love hip hop. I love HiiiPower, Bitch Don't Kill By Vibe, Swimming Pools, Poetic Justice and a lot of his features. But to me he just sounds crazy now.
Yaphett Kotto
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Lucy is definitely the devil. The play on Lucifer, the lyrics in For Sale?, and the intention tells you.
That was the best correlation with GKMC on the whole album. Love the continuation of the small stories within the album.
That was the best correlation with GKMC on the whole album. Love the continuation of the small stories within the album.
this is basically his gkmc dealing with fame instead of his past
it was a kyle bosman-esque nod
edit: never mind I'm high, I though you were talking about the voicemail. that was a kyle bosman-esque nod ;p
it was a kyle bosman-esque nod
edit: never mind I'm high, I though you were talking about the voicemail. that was a kyle bosman-esque nod ;p
Not a true fan bruh.
Don't see how people could miss that, it's pretty obvious.
PhoenixDark
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Lucy is also a euphemism for drugs (Lucy In The Sky With Diamonds). Really sounds like Kendrick was fucked up last year, drugs and depression.
Wasn't there a (fake) rumor that he beat the shit out of some girl at a hotel last year also? I wonder if something happened there, hence u.
http://www.mstarz.com/articles/3623...otel-room-fight-charges-soon-video-rumors.htm
Maybe dude just snapped but a chick wasn't involved.
Wasn't there a (fake) rumor that he beat the shit out of some girl at a hotel last year also? I wonder if something happened there, hence u.
http://www.mstarz.com/articles/3623...otel-room-fight-charges-soon-video-rumors.htm
Maybe dude just snapped but a chick wasn't involved.
Yaphett Kotto
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Pinko Marx
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I picked up on the Lucy being the devil part. I just take For Free as America throwing another musician to the side as Pop culture usually does, and Kendrick talking back.
explains the psychedelic vibe of that song/interlude tbh. Feels much more ethereal than the rest of the album.
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