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KILLZONE 2 - The |OT|
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AndresON777
shooting blanks
From what I read in the manual the way the blood splatters on the screen does show you in what direction you're being shot at from
Question about the radar though? If I crouch I dont show up on the radar right?
How does it work?
Question about the radar though? If I crouch I dont show up on the radar right?
How does it work?
The Wise Old Man
Member
Heh, yes. I was joking back then but I had a strong suspicion that my grips about this game would be proven true. And they have been. As you can see, I've made a lot of excellent and coherent points that illustrate this game's numerous shortcomings. And I stand by my comments. I'll be playing online in a few hours once I return from the gym. My PSN tag is henderson1979 if anyone wants to further debate me on these issues and perhaps play a rousing session of K2 online.
Lord Error
Insane For Sony
Nah, sory man, but what you said there doesn't make any sense. It's like being on a roller coaster and complaining that you cannot enjoy the scenery and how taking photos is not allowed during the ride :-D The addition of screenshot tool wouldn't change any of that either - we already have 100000 screens and videos of this game all over the internet, so how would adding some more really change a thing.The Wise Old Man said:
The game is really really good looking.. it's just as good, graphics wise, as uncharted, and it has a lot of little things that make it even better..
The one thing I really noticed was shooting at enemies on top of a wall thing with the sun behind them. You really felt like you were on some strange planet with dust scattering the sunlight. And, imagine this, it's harder to shoot enemies with the sun behind them.. wow who would have guessed???
The one thing that I find pretty hilarious is if you ever shoot an enemy who is on top of something they will go out of their way to fall off of the object when they die.
The aiming system is really clunky.. but I will chalk it up to me not being used to the ps3 controller.
And I feel like I'm playing Wii when I have to open valves or set a bomb on the door.. seems kinda gimmicky.
The aiming system on the tanks is pretty ridiculous.. I have no idea where my primary and secondary fire are going to go until I shoot.
The game is ridiculously easy in medium mode despite the clunky controls.. I wouldn't suggest it.
The AI isn't that great.. its just like any other FPS.. grab a rifle and shoot the enemies in the head who think they are hiding and then bum rush the few that are hiding..
Overall, I think its pretty fun.. but for how long this thing was in development, I expected a lot more.
That being said, the cut scenes are great.. the backgrounds have a lot going on.. the arc guns firing into the sky make it hard to focus on the task at hand, for example. It seems as though maybe they focused on making it eye candy and overlooked the gameplay.
I think it does live up to the imfamous 1972 E3 preview graphics wise... or was it 2006? I can't remember.. but it was a long time ago.
The one thing I really noticed was shooting at enemies on top of a wall thing with the sun behind them. You really felt like you were on some strange planet with dust scattering the sunlight. And, imagine this, it's harder to shoot enemies with the sun behind them.. wow who would have guessed???
The one thing that I find pretty hilarious is if you ever shoot an enemy who is on top of something they will go out of their way to fall off of the object when they die.
The aiming system is really clunky.. but I will chalk it up to me not being used to the ps3 controller.
And I feel like I'm playing Wii when I have to open valves or set a bomb on the door.. seems kinda gimmicky.
The aiming system on the tanks is pretty ridiculous.. I have no idea where my primary and secondary fire are going to go until I shoot.
The game is ridiculously easy in medium mode despite the clunky controls.. I wouldn't suggest it.
The AI isn't that great.. its just like any other FPS.. grab a rifle and shoot the enemies in the head who think they are hiding and then bum rush the few that are hiding..
Overall, I think its pretty fun.. but for how long this thing was in development, I expected a lot more.
That being said, the cut scenes are great.. the backgrounds have a lot going on.. the arc guns firing into the sky make it hard to focus on the task at hand, for example. It seems as though maybe they focused on making it eye candy and overlooked the gameplay.
I think it does live up to the imfamous 1972 E3 preview graphics wise... or was it 2006? I can't remember.. but it was a long time ago.
The Wise Old Man said:
Maybe im not that far in the game but...
Really dont see anything wrong with load screens. Dont see how there is too much going on, since you really arent on a timer and none of your squadmate temp-deaths count as game over or anything.
I dont have a surround sound system (HDTV uses that fake surround sound) but I can tell where an enemy is if it shoots at me. I mean it's not really that hard since they make the red glowing effect a little more pronounced from far away (actually same for ISA blue glowing items in MP).
If your view is getting too messed up...back up around cover or something. It never blocks you so much that you cant spot an area that would provide decent cover. Clunky aiming system is subjective though (I dont have a problem with it, but I didnt have a problem with RE5 controls so take that as you will).
I've only fought one boss so far, and that didnt seem too hard from the AI assistance I received. Hiding behind a pillar with an SMG did the trick for that one. Im playing the game on hard difficulty right now.
EDIT: Seriously though, don't see how some people wouldn't be able to focus on the objective because of background effects. Yeah, I stopped for awhile when the action died down to look around during the arc tower gun assault, but it wasn't like the lighting distracted me from what I was doing while I was doing it.
The Wise Old Man
Member
chubigans said:
Cause I was gifted a PS3 by the fiance for xmas and I'm looking for a game other than MGS4 that would justify owning this system. Sadly, K2 has not delivered.
UntoldDreams
Member
Wise likes attention and... to troll a bit from what I recall previously.
There's quite a significant difference from putting out your opinion to people and trying to argue them into oblivion. Wise attempts to argue with people for "fun".
There's quite a significant difference from putting out your opinion to people and trying to argue them into oblivion. Wise attempts to argue with people for "fun".
There are some days when I pay a vist to NeoGAF and I feel like a true optimist. This is one of those days. I'm about halfway through Killzone 2 and I love everything about it.
I really like the story so far, bonus points for no cowboy hats.
I'm finding this to be one of the best controlling FPSs I've ever played in that I'm able to make miniscule movements when I aim and that's not something every game does well.
People have really been complaining about controls lately, especially in "big" games...GTA IV's vehicles, Resident Evil 5, Little Big Planet's "floaty" jumping...there's a lot of whiney bitches out there. I haven't had any of these "control" issues. I must be doing something right.
I really like the story so far, bonus points for no cowboy hats.
I'm finding this to be one of the best controlling FPSs I've ever played in that I'm able to make miniscule movements when I aim and that's not something every game does well.
People have really been complaining about controls lately, especially in "big" games...GTA IV's vehicles, Resident Evil 5, Little Big Planet's "floaty" jumping...there's a lot of whiney bitches out there. I haven't had any of these "control" issues. I must be doing something right.
furrygiblets
Member
The Wise Old Man said:
Oh piss off will ya, noone believes your crap
BruceLeeRoy
Banned
The Wise Old Man said:
Wise you came into this game hoping it wasn't going to live up to expectations just so you could get a rise out of people. Your shtick is getting old as hell though. I recommend you roll over to some threads that contain games your excited about.
That's still really, really stupid.The Wise Old Man said:
"Oh man this game sucks. Wait, let me spend $60 and see if it's any better!"
"Crap the game is awful! PS3 GIFT UNJUSTIFIED!"
Just trade in your system for some cash instead of buying games you don't like to "justify owning the system", whatever the hell that's supposed to mean. :lol
The Wise Old Man
Member
dhelfric said:
Are you that guy who doesn't speak the language very well? I assure you, the tag does work and it's 100% legit. Let's keep it together here people.
AndresON777
shooting blanks
VinZuku said:
:lol
You hear crazy shit from both camps on neo gaf and it's always some one with like 100 posts or so
UntoldDreams
Member
The Wise Old Man said:
For all you know... you might very well be arguing with teenagers who are excited about a new game (a toy).... And you are acting like the annoying uncle who comes in and tells the children the toy is poorly made.
Bravo. This is how all people should act.
(I do wonder with how immature you act how old you really are though)
Imperial Hot
Banned
I haven't finished the campaign yet, I think I am over two-thirds the way though, and I am having a great time. The first two levels were decent, but once the game starts going, it really starts going. The action is really intense, and it's always balls-to-the-wall insanity. The story so far is interesting enough to keep you going, you can tell their is a lot of history between the ISA and Helghast, but you also do feel like you are just getting orders from command and you are out of the loop.The Wise Old Man said:
I am enjoying the campaign immensely.
Bought the game yesterday, not sure I'll keep it. After so many years of hype and promises, I felt the game was underwhelming, but I didn't finish it yet and only put a couple hours into it.
The single player just feels like Call of Duty - that is, 90% scripted events, OK A.I. and very linear. I dunno, maybe I was expecting too much, but it's an old formula that got old with me a long time ago.
The graphics are mind blowing. Well, most of them. The guns feel good too, and I like how environments can be destroyed, at least some parts of them.
I tried the multiplayer and let me tell you something : is it all? It's fucking BORING. Probably I have to be at a better grade to unlock new weapons and stuff but it felt clunky and average. I thought the search & destroy C4-type objective would be like Counter-Strike but oh not at all, part of it due to the fact there are infinite respawns, one thing I can't tolerate anymore in FPSes, it's absurd. I know it's a war, but I prefer games to be round-based.
Like I said, aiming is a mess. I swear so many times I was behind a foe but couldn't kill him because the gun shoots like crazy. I guess that's realism to you, but I didn't liked it too much. Might be just me though, as I need practice.
Another thing I hated is how in campaign you can cover behind some scenery or objects but in multiplayer you can't, which I think is absurd. Am I missing something?
So far I'd give this game around 7.5-8/10 max. Sorry, but it's not a killer app for me.
The single player just feels like Call of Duty - that is, 90% scripted events, OK A.I. and very linear. I dunno, maybe I was expecting too much, but it's an old formula that got old with me a long time ago.
The graphics are mind blowing. Well, most of them. The guns feel good too, and I like how environments can be destroyed, at least some parts of them.
I tried the multiplayer and let me tell you something : is it all? It's fucking BORING. Probably I have to be at a better grade to unlock new weapons and stuff but it felt clunky and average. I thought the search & destroy C4-type objective would be like Counter-Strike but oh not at all, part of it due to the fact there are infinite respawns, one thing I can't tolerate anymore in FPSes, it's absurd. I know it's a war, but I prefer games to be round-based.
Like I said, aiming is a mess. I swear so many times I was behind a foe but couldn't kill him because the gun shoots like crazy. I guess that's realism to you, but I didn't liked it too much. Might be just me though, as I need practice.
Another thing I hated is how in campaign you can cover behind some scenery or objects but in multiplayer you can't, which I think is absurd. Am I missing something?
So far I'd give this game around 7.5-8/10 max. Sorry, but it's not a killer app for me.
The Wise Old Man said:
Maybe it didnt' deliver for you but it delivered for thousands or even millions of others so move on and find your game. Killzone 2 is THA SHIT!
BTW: I don't agree with ANY of your problems with the game. Even the voices are "ok". The surround issue I can't speak for since I have a good 5.1 system
UntoldDreams
Member
This game is quite frenetic though. There's a level of exhilaration from being on the battlefield which I have not experienced in any other game.
I think having surround sound goes a huge way to creating the experience for sure.
Its unfortunate that people need surround sound to create the full effect but its unavoidable. Tension builds up because sound comes from behind you. Its not like you could design around this feature any other way.
Its awesome.
I think having surround sound goes a huge way to creating the experience for sure.
Its unfortunate that people need surround sound to create the full effect but its unavoidable. Tension builds up because sound comes from behind you. Its not like you could design around this feature any other way.
Its awesome.
KZObsessed
Member
h3ro said:
This. One of the few on my ignore list. It's a beautiful feature, use it people!
BruceLeeRoy
Banned
Its been a long time since I have been this immediately addicted to the gameplay of
a game. I went to bed at 5am last night woke up and as soon as my mind could handle
conscious thought I got so excited to play some more.
Game is soo good.
a game. I went to bed at 5am last night woke up and as soon as my mind could handle
conscious thought I got so excited to play some more.
Game is soo good.
brandonh83
Banned
most FPS titles are under 10 hours these days aren't they? Gears, Halo, Call of Duty... they're all very very short games.
{Mike} said:
They said something about how they were testing the cover system in MP mode and felt it didnt really add anything to it. As far as behind someone, dont panic, just line up a headshot. Either that or aim a little lower than the head and then just let loose a hail of bullets. Or melee once then spray. Tap shots help too.
I will add I found it clever to add Helghast signs to be destroyed in levels, makes you search around a lot for them. It's a neat touch for replay value, with the added documents you can also find usually on the ground.
Unfortunately, the game falls into the same trap than many other FPSes : run, shoot, destroy, rince and repeat. I also had a hard time being concentrated with my objectives as there was too much going on at the screen to even care about the little text appearing. On this note, pressing the up arrow of the D-pad tells you where to go, another clever game design idea I really enjoyed because many times I was confused.
Unfortunately, the game falls into the same trap than many other FPSes : run, shoot, destroy, rince and repeat. I also had a hard time being concentrated with my objectives as there was too much going on at the screen to even care about the little text appearing. On this note, pressing the up arrow of the D-pad tells you where to go, another clever game design idea I really enjoyed because many times I was confused.
AndresON777
shooting blanks
chubigans said:Nah, it's definitely not like Call of Duty . CoD has those scripted events that you can't skip, and there's infinite waves of enemies. KZ2 doesn't have that (yet...as I'm only in the second level) so already it's infinitely better.
Yeah there is no worse campaign in single player than cod. You have to pass some line on the battlefield so enemies wont stop spawning. NOTHING is worse than this shit, especially on higher difficulty levels.
Might as well be on rails with a light gun
AndresON777
shooting blanks
{Mike} said:
Sadly yes, I only do bodycount and it takes forever to rank up.
I want to get that class where you have extra armor/health. It's like juggernaut I think, I need that badly
BruceLeeRoy
Banned
I think the main appeal for the game for me is that the helghast are just so fun to fight.
I haven't died yet because the game was cheating everytime its because I was simply
outplayed and I love that.
I haven't died yet because the game was cheating everytime its because I was simply
outplayed and I love that.
This game has let me down kinda. After playing the demo a bunch of times throughout February I thought the rest of the game would be a good representation of it. WRONG.
So far the SP has been pretty boring, and dont start me on the terrible MP. While I love changing objectives, I hate being headshotted from a mile away and not know who killed me. The controls suck dick as well. Weight my ass.
My overall score for this game so far, a 2/5.
So far the SP has been pretty boring, and dont start me on the terrible MP. While I love changing objectives, I hate being headshotted from a mile away and not know who killed me. The controls suck dick as well. Weight my ass.
My overall score for this game so far, a 2/5.
AndresON777
shooting blanks
I just hate being helghast in multiplayer, it's hard to see the isa dudes' head.
Being isa rocks because you just aim for the red goggles to take out their heads.
I got mad headshots as isa in multiplayer.
They need to do something about this, I dont know what.
At least you can pick isa everytime lol
Being isa rocks because you just aim for the red goggles to take out their heads.
I got mad headshots as isa in multiplayer.
They need to do something about this, I dont know what.
At least you can pick isa everytime lol
It tells you who killed you in the info that keeps showing up about who killed who. If you mean the camera, it actually turns against the person who killed you but doesn't zoom, which I think is perfect. I hate how I would kill someone on CoD4 sniping or hiding somewhere and a few minutes later they would go straight to where I was standing and kill me even though there was no way they could have ever found me.bizatch said:
Pristine_Condition
Member
The Wise Old Man said:
How convenient. [rolls eyes]
The Wise Old Man said:
OMG, you certainly do love you some you, dont you? (Apologies to T.O.)
The Wise Old Man said:
Of course you do. After all, you've had your mind made up on this game before it even came out. You were so outrageous about your condemnations of this game two weeks ago that you couldn't back down from those comments now even if you wanted to.
Here's you, two weeks ago, before the game even came out, (obviously):
The Wise Old Man said:
The Wise Old Man said:
The Wise Old Man said:
You've dedicated far too much into trolling this game. A glance at your history in this thread shows that well over half (more like 2/3) of your entire pathetic posting history here on GAF is dedicated to this game. A game that you supposedly don't like, have never liked, didn't-like-the-demo-at-all-yet-for-some-inexplicable-reason-bought-the-full-version-of, and now (predictably) don't think is worth the $60 price tag. That's insane to spend that much of your life on a game that you don't care for. Of course you "stand by your comments," you've devoted way too much of your posting history here on bashing Killzone 2. It's obviously an obsession, or something.
BobTheFork
Member
who would have guessed lol{Mike} said: