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KILLZONE 2 - The |OT|
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ZombieSupaStar
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Teetris said:That's mostly from people who just picked the game up, play 5 minutes and go: OMFG this isn't like COD AT ALL. Then go on GAF to post it.
Also, I always think of FF7 Midgar when playing on the MP maps. So awesome!
i play all my fps games on pc, so its really hard for me, its like playing using my feet to aim... :lol
and pish at cod, ut99 and natural selection is where its truely at
Rapping Granny
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Ah god I hate shotguns, it's like the gears of war shotgun, completly unpredictable.
I played with a few GAFers today, but damn i didnt have much fun. I quit 32 player games from now on i think, so mindless.
People love to point to high max players in MP as a nice bullet point on the back of the game box, but that doesnt mean it automatically makes for better MP. Bigger does not equal better in this case methinks.
People love to point to high max players in MP as a nice bullet point on the back of the game box, but that doesnt mean it automatically makes for better MP. Bigger does not equal better in this case methinks.
ZombieSupaStar
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Atrophis said:
it can, 64 player battlefield 1942 games were awesome back in the day, felt like a war with those big ass maps. depends on the game I guess
Danne-Danger
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Eh, you'll get used to them. This is pretty much my first console FPS as well and it feels pretty much fine after a few hours. You'll never get M/K precision and speed but everyone has the same handicap.ZombieSupaStar said:
Just play skirmish with a podcast running or something for a while.
Then it's understandable yes. I know people who only play console FPS and then laugh at me when I let them try out a PC FPS.ZombieSupaStar said:
I guess you've just got to stick with it. Might take a week before you get slightly used to it, but it'll be so worth it.
CharpyImpact
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Zen said:
Eh, I really didn't notice it. I just said it so I found common ground with the other guy
Hip shooting and Ironsights use should be 97%/3% respectively (unless you're using a sniper rifle) and I believe that's what the people who can't handle it misunderstand (though sp requires a bit more scoping). I basically do hip shooting for everything which is ~70meters or closer. I go whole matches (and many) without ever pulling up the scope. The controls and feel of this game is beyond the current console norm.
In COD4 I use scope in about 60% of my kills, in KZ2 it's 3% or less. Use hip shooting.
In COD4 I use scope in about 60% of my kills, in KZ2 it's 3% or less. Use hip shooting.
I spend about half my time online just figthing with the aiming. When it clicks though, I can mow people down.ZombieSupaStar said:
It just feels so inconsistent. There is no reason anyone should be so accurate firing from the hip (especially when iron sighting is so inaccurate) and all within a game that is striving for realism.
What's really puzzling me is the "I kill you" while "you kill me" deaths I'm getting about every third kill. Something is definitely up with the netcode / latency, when it happens as often as I'm getting it.
This game is so incredibly frustrating and addicting all at once. It's like a heroin addiction.
Jostifer said:
I agree this is the only way to remain effective, but its just seems so stupid that it should play like this. The game has way too much range (both vertically and horizontally) built into the maps for the ironsights to be so ineffective.
duk said:
I feel the same. KZ2 is here but the console is defect. There is so much negativity that I lost any interest to play the game besides a rush through the SP. I know that's my fault but it affects me the same as with the R2 negativity. We really need an official statement from GG regarding this lag hoax.
CharpyImpact
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Dirtbag said:
Agreed on the "I kill you" while "you kill me." That quite simply cannot happen that regularly. Both players bullets must be midair
CharpyImpact said:Agreed on the "I kill you" while "you kill me." That quite simply cannot happen that regularly. Both players bullets must be midair
Yeah! I definitely was thinking the same thing today. SOOOO many simultaneous deaths. And other times, there's NO WAY my opponent could have survived my barrage yet they turn around like nothing happened and shoot me in the face.
Anyway, I loved today's gaf games. I just follow ice chai around.
ZombieSupaStar
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what is this lag hoax all about now?
maybe its me trying to use iron sites? i pretty much go to those and get rolled because im moving at .0005mph swinging my aim while i get pegged, untill i unlock sniper in just hurf durfing rambo hip shooting and pineapple chuckin.
maybe its me trying to use iron sites? i pretty much go to those and get rolled because im moving at .0005mph swinging my aim while i get pegged, untill i unlock sniper in just hurf durfing rambo hip shooting and pineapple chuckin.
Dirtbag said:
The reason aiming from the hip is so accurate is probably because they don't want everyone in MP just aiming down the sights since, given the already slow-paced nature of the game, it would just slow things down too much. I think that's why they also removed the cover system from MP, since in testing they found players wanted a quicker pace and just ignored it.
Also, about firing from the hip, there's still tons of recoil so that helps to offset its general accuracy.
Dirtbag said:
That does happen, it's odd. I think some of it might have to do with the death animations, as well, in terms of when the guy dies and when it actually registers it as a death. Could also be random lag spikes. Tough to tell when we can't check our connection to the server.
Y2Kev said:
This, too. There's too much seemingly unnecessary loading to get to the next game.
CharpyImpact
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commish said:
Indeed, stalking a gaffer is the best way to do it. I just annoyed WHOAguitarninja. It was good fun.
ZombieSupaStar
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Facism said:You play NS? Your shrink says you need an outlet for your aggression?
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ZombieSupaStar
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TheFatOne said:
what is it?
Phaethon0017
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ZombieSupaStar said:
Word. My initial reaction yesterday. But after spending a lot of trial and error on Veteran difficulty, I found myself improving a lot online. It's not perfect, but I'm at least finding it very enjoyable.
Danne-Danger
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That's the part where I switched to regular.RavenFox said:
It wouldn't have been so bad if Rico wasn't completely useless as a teammate.
Shearie said:
Most online shooters don't actually 'fire bullets', they do a hitscan check and instantly hit a target. In the case of 'real' guns, they usually aren't completely accurate, and have recoil/random clustering for the 'bullet hits'.
Why people are wondering is because this is really strange behavior - there's two possibilities; either the various guns in kz2 use actual projectiles (very unlikely), or they have some seriously, seriously wonky prediction code at work. Or I guess there might also be bleed damage, but I haven't witnessed that.
This sort of prediction is generally masked by having it client side, but this is why eg, in CoD4 what you did and what showed up on the killcam when 'that guy I totally shot but he killed me it was bs' don't always match up.
I *think* this game is using client/server, not peer to peer, but I could be wrong. That makes this kind of behavior even more odd.
Shearie said:
It's a case where, some of the time, one of the two dies before the other yet keeps shooting and inevitably kills the other person.
There have been times where someone kills me and then I watch him fall and die from my bullets afterwards. And vice versa. The reason I don't know if it's lag or not is because the message comes up immediately telling me I killed him, but the actual character model takes a second to fall to his death. Seems like if it was lag from the server, the message would also be delayed. I've also seen that in single-player, so who knows. I think it's a glitch with the hit-detection.
Danne-Danger
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It was way, waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay worse in MGO though, if that's any comfort.commish said:
If it affects you that much the trick is to never read a neogaf about a popular game after the hype dies (usually the day after release). If something is super anticipated people get these bloated expectations about what a game should be, and will hate it even if it turned out really well. I have fallen victim to this before. I hated Gears of War after playing through it due to my massive expectations, but after my second play through I realized I was an idiot. Same thing happened to me with R2, but I actually now really like the game after playing through it twice. This game has no more glitches or quirks than other competing FPS games, but people will tear it apart for having them. Just like people tore Halo 3 apart for choosing fantastic HDR and 640p, over 720p with AA.Thrakier said:
I do wish that there was an install option to get rid of the split second pauses while the game loads. But they didn't bother me much in Halo 3, and they don't really bother me a whole lot here. I just hope they keep an optional install in mind for KZ3.
I hate Rico so much. I wish they would've killed him off