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KILLZONE 2 - The |OT|
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Jack Scofield
Member
Goddammit, I'm getting connection errors every other game now. I made it to General with no problems whatsoever, but I was dropped out of Beamber three times.
test_account
XP-39C²
I didnt know that the tactician's spawn grenade worked like this. Thanks for the info!Stillmatic said:
MvmntInGrn
Member
Seems like some connection errors have been fixed but people who didn't have issues now are.
Weird.
Weird.
I was going to make a post earlier today about how bored I am with the game already, but then I had a great game playing with Click and scrapped it.
The problem I'm having is that my enjoyment is completely dependent on the team I'm playing with, and that's something that doesn't happen too often with me in games. Even games like SOCOM where it's extremely team-oriented I find tons of enjoyment doing my own thing, but this game requires even less teamwork yet seems so heavily influenced by the team you're playing with.
Another thing that bothers me is how the whole leveling system works. It took me only 9 hours to rank to max, and anything else after that are rewards based on playing different classes. For some that might be exciting, but it ends up forcing players into classes they either aren't comfortable playing or are just playing the class to get their badges for (this is when you end up with fucking idiots dropping spawn grenades 3 feet from the original spawn just to get a badge). You would think once you rank to max you could find your favorite class and settle in, but there really isn't much depth in terms of (personal) progress beyond the initial abilities.
EDIT: And because there's no 'standard' for rooms, I can never really judge how good I'm playing from room to room or match to match between all the rule/time/player changes - it's either a win or a loss.
The problem I'm having is that my enjoyment is completely dependent on the team I'm playing with, and that's something that doesn't happen too often with me in games. Even games like SOCOM where it's extremely team-oriented I find tons of enjoyment doing my own thing, but this game requires even less teamwork yet seems so heavily influenced by the team you're playing with.
Another thing that bothers me is how the whole leveling system works. It took me only 9 hours to rank to max, and anything else after that are rewards based on playing different classes. For some that might be exciting, but it ends up forcing players into classes they either aren't comfortable playing or are just playing the class to get their badges for (this is when you end up with fucking idiots dropping spawn grenades 3 feet from the original spawn just to get a badge). You would think once you rank to max you could find your favorite class and settle in, but there really isn't much depth in terms of (personal) progress beyond the initial abilities.
EDIT: And because there's no 'standard' for rooms, I can never really judge how good I'm playing from room to room or match to match between all the rule/time/player changes - it's either a win or a loss.
Just finished the game on Elite. Good ride except for the final section. A little TOO hard for my tastes. I think the control patch may have helped...it felt much easier to target dudes in ironsights and nail em than before.
The great thing is that Elite is mostly fun because the AI is not cheap. You can sneak up behind them, get out of their line of sight, and any landed shot puts em in a reaction. Melee is useful, cooking grenades works well.... VERY VERY solid gameplay all around. COD cannot even compare AI wise, and Halo and Fear could learn a few things here as well. AI dont just chill in their quadrants, but actually push you backwards as they inch forwards. Likewise, you can actually feel yourself pushing them BACKWARDS as well at times in unscripted fashion. Awesome stuff
The only memorable negative to me besides the last section, is the few COD inspired infinite spawner areas. But there were only a few of these.
I have a feeling I might be trudging through Elite again, as it gives me that Halo on Legendary feel. But now onto multiplayer
The great thing is that Elite is mostly fun because the AI is not cheap. You can sneak up behind them, get out of their line of sight, and any landed shot puts em in a reaction. Melee is useful, cooking grenades works well.... VERY VERY solid gameplay all around. COD cannot even compare AI wise, and Halo and Fear could learn a few things here as well. AI dont just chill in their quadrants, but actually push you backwards as they inch forwards. Likewise, you can actually feel yourself pushing them BACKWARDS as well at times in unscripted fashion. Awesome stuff
The only memorable negative to me besides the last section, is the few COD inspired infinite spawner areas. But there were only a few of these.
I have a feeling I might be trudging through Elite again, as it gives me that Halo on Legendary feel. But now onto multiplayer
G-Bus
Banned
FourSerioux said:
Exact same thing happened to me couple days ago. I noticed it early on and thought it was a little glitch and I would get my points and the end of the round. wrong. when I got back to the rank progressions screen it froze too.
Nothing like wasting 30-45 minutes.
FourSerioux
Member
G-Bus said:
Yeah, I thought it would count at the end especially since my name was still showing up on the kill list when I killed them. Keep that in mind people, if you get this bug then quit out!
sankt-Antonio
:^)--?-<
G-Bus said:
i had the same "problem" but i just turned off my ps3 and hours later i fired it up again and all the points where "there" if you dont quite in the middle of the game your progress is being saved on gg servers (i think)
mgviperman
Member
Just finished my first run on Veteran.
was such a bitch, but it was oh so satisfying when I finally beat it. Didn't notice much of a change after the patch, but I was mostly adjusted to the controls by then anyway. Excellent game all around, now to jump into some multiplayer action!
Visari Palace
FourSerioux
Member
sankt-Antonio said:
Well I'll check back again later tonight and hopefully that's the case. Did it show 0 points on the screen that it froze on?
TTP said:
That's because you've played with tact who don't know what the fuck they're doing. People respawning from your nade face the opposite direction you were facing while dropping it.
I usually drop my nades in corners, or by walls, while facing them. I fucking hate when people drop spawn points out in the wild, and mind you, in the opposite direction you'd like to go.
As for the squad leader spawn, I *think* you face the same direction he does.
Musashi Wins!
FLAWLESS VICTOLY!
wow, i wondered why I got spawned backwards from the fight.
also, screw everyone sometimes i love the too big hectic fights. they have their own charm.
also, screw everyone sometimes i love the too big hectic fights. they have their own charm.
CartridgeBlower
Member
This game's weapons are so out of wack.
Shotgun, Missile Launcher, and Grenade Launcher are starting to become more prevalent online and it's just a haze of fog on my screen for most of the match. The visibility in this game is atrocious.
I really think I'm done with this game. Tried the smaller matches, but it's just not my cup of tea. I really don't see what this game is bringing to the table, other then beautiful graphics.
Shotgun, Missile Launcher, and Grenade Launcher are starting to become more prevalent online and it's just a haze of fog on my screen for most of the match. The visibility in this game is atrocious.
I really think I'm done with this game. Tried the smaller matches, but it's just not my cup of tea. I really don't see what this game is bringing to the table, other then beautiful graphics.
Lord Error
Insane For Sony
Finally finished the SP. Phew, that was a crazy fun ride. The last level was the most intense of them all, and looked amazing as well. I'll say that Helghans are some of the smartest bastards ever put into any game, and the last level shows that maybe better than anything before it. You can just see and feel they're doing that last standoff with a crazed fervor kind of thing, trying to push you back as much you try to push them back. It's really amazing how good AI is in this game, and to think how much everyone questioned it.
It's true that up until the very end (Visari's little speech was quite chilling) the storytelling wasn't anything too special, and the characters are all pretty forgettable, Sev thankfully being the best of the bunch - but what really matters - the fun and the quality of gameplay never gave up, even for a moment, it actually just gets better and better the further you go.
Also - respect for the demoscene cubes during the 2nd part of the credits sequence (I loved the first part too of course). Guerrilla shows their roots.
Now to backup the save file, and start playing in Russian!
It's true that up until the very end (Visari's little speech was quite chilling) the storytelling wasn't anything too special, and the characters are all pretty forgettable, Sev thankfully being the best of the bunch - but what really matters - the fun and the quality of gameplay never gave up, even for a moment, it actually just gets better and better the further you go.
Also - respect for the demoscene cubes during the 2nd part of the credits sequence (I loved the first part too of course). Guerrilla shows their roots.
Now to backup the save file, and start playing in Russian!
UntoldDreams
Member
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What the hell happened to recoil? Good lord it plays quite differently now.
Its... notably easier. The controls got nerfed...
I guess I am torn between the fact that I really was happy the way they were and the fact that I was tired of hearing every loudmouth on the internet complain that it was too difficult.
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What the hell happened to recoil? Good lord it plays quite differently now.
Its... notably easier. The controls got nerfed...
I guess I am torn between the fact that I really was happy the way they were and the fact that I was tired of hearing every loudmouth on the internet complain that it was too difficult.
CartridgeBlower
Member
My KD ratio has dropped significantly now that the controls are tweaked. I think I had them down pretty well while a lot of other players didn't, so I was working it. Now everyone is just capping everyone.
It actually feels less satisfying to me now when I get a kill. But what do I know.
It actually feels less satisfying to me now when I get a kill. But what do I know.
UntoldDreams
Member
CartridgeBlower said:
Its sad how appealing to the mainstream requires basically an "all play" type of design.
In LittleBigPlanet user made levels... If you actually made a "hard" platforming level on purpose people would simply rate your game very low. Even if its brilliant level design simply tricky in parts... People quickly gave up and gave it a low score.
The lowest common denominator might honestly be something with an atrociously high amount of automatic lock-on and lots of fancy graphics.
Musashi Wins!
FLAWLESS VICTOLY!
Man, I don't get it. Guess I'm less sensitive in shooters, I don't see this "huge" difference. Some turning speed, yes. But there already was light aim assist. I don't see the pump up.
UntoldDreams
Member
Musashi Wins! said:
It feels very different (easier). You don't notice it?
I guess... making a mainstream appeal game would require it to not be too controversial.
That's sad. Reminds me of of the movie Idiocracy.
"Its got electrolytes. You know! What the body needs!"
KZObsessed
Member
Right, played for about 10 hours today and my eyes hurt :s
But I'm hoping that's enough to get me the Valor Grand Cross trophy after 2moro.
When I get that, I should have my platinum trophy this time next week.
But I'm hoping that's enough to get me the Valor Grand Cross trophy after 2moro.
When I get that, I should have my platinum trophy this time next week.
Jack Scofield
Member
LukeSmith said:
Ah, so that was you in that Beamber GAF game. My connection dropped again, though, for the fourth time today, so I wasn't in that game for long.
I really need to find out if this is a problem on my end. I had no issues whatsoever until today.
Musashi Wins!
FLAWLESS VICTOLY!
UntoldDreams said:It feels very different (easier). You don't notice it?
I guess... making a mainstream appeal game would require it to not be too controversial.
That's sad. Reminds me of of the movie Idiocracy.
"Its got electrolytes. You know! What the body needs!"
No. Only in close encounters. I did pretty well before the patch and the same after. I think you guys are imagining the proportion, but if it makes it better that it was somehow completely leveled for the "masses" in your minds, that's fine too.
â Narayan
Member
This fight with
, or his troops - more rather, is tough.
Radec
Not a Jellyfish
but I am a sheep
any GAF rooms going?
RedRedSuit
Member
Stupid question:
Can I change difficulty mid-campaign? I am playing on Trooper, am on The Cruiser, and have not yet finished the game. Can I resume on Veteran by doing section select or something, or will it not let me proceed to the next section if I do that?
I ask here because I don't want to mess something up and unrecoverably overwrite my save or something.
Can I change difficulty mid-campaign? I am playing on Trooper, am on The Cruiser, and have not yet finished the game. Can I resume on Veteran by doing section select or something, or will it not let me proceed to the next section if I do that?
I ask here because I don't want to mess something up and unrecoverably overwrite my save or something.
Lord Error
Insane For Sony
I just checked the demo vs. the game, and the recoil of M82 gun feels exactly the same, both in ironsight view, and in the hip view. If you shoot in ironsight mode (in both the demo and post-patch game) there is no upwards moving recoil at all. You can empty the whole clip continuously, and all you'll see is slight scaterring of bullets around the point you're shooting at.jett said:Just installed the 1.20 patch...wow they've *seriously* toned down the amount of recoil in single player, you no longer need to shoot in shot bursts with the ISA rifle.
In the hip shooting view, there's a pretty strong upwards movement until you empty the clip, and then when you release the button, the aim moves down to where it was originally pointed at. Again, exactly the same in both.
What they *did* tweak is the aiming acceleration curve. The gun does feel less inert now, it takes it a bit less 'effort' for it to start moving past the very slow moving phase if that makes any sense. This does not however affect the weighty feel of the game at all in my opinion, as there's still inertia applied to it, just a bit less than before. This does allow for a bit easier aiming and target tracking to be honest, but I don't think it compromises the feel of the game in any way, so it's a win-win for everyone.
DeadFalling
Member
I am absolutely horrible as a Saboteur. I can't get any kills usually. 1 or 2 if I'm lucky. Can anybody give me a few pointers?
Visari Hammer is the best map.
If anything I would say the good mp level amount ratio is unusually high in this game. Games come with 6-11 maps standard where usually 3 are cycled over and over. I think KZ2 actually managed a very seldom full pot. All the mp levels feel different and are thematically different (within the confines of a 'ruined' world) and offers different pacing and flow.
If anything I would say the good mp level amount ratio is unusually high in this game. Games come with 6-11 maps standard where usually 3 are cycled over and over. I think KZ2 actually managed a very seldom full pot. All the mp levels feel different and are thematically different (within the confines of a 'ruined' world) and offers different pacing and flow.