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KILLZONE 2 - The |OT|
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PartlyCloudlike said:
The sad thing is, squads get useless after you rank up a bit more since everyone starts using portable spawn points. I still create squads though.
FoxhoundNL
Member
YOU, SIR, ARE A HERO! I can play on my american account just fine! Too bad I have to unlock everything again... How the hell is it possible my main (EU) account can't connect and my US account, on the same PS3 and network setup, CAN?!Kinan said:
Oh well, at least I can try patch 1.20 now:lol Thanks!
Maybe I'm banned for some reason? Or someone reported me for whatever reason (That is possible in KZ2, right?)
FoxhoundNL said:YOU, SIR, ARE A HERO! I can play on my american account just fine! Too bad I have to unlock everything again... How the hell is it possible my main (EU) account can't connect and my US account, on the same PS3 and network setup, CAN?!
Oh well, at least I can try patch 1.20 now:lol Thanks!
Maybe I'm banned for some reason? Or someone reported me for whatever reason (That is possible in KZ2, right?)
You are welcome. You main account at GG servers is either corrupted or maybe you are indeed banned, but I suppose you would get some notification if it was the case. Only guerrillas can tell you.
the_prime_mover said:
The number of disconnects and the fact that they're coming from people with different brands of routers would seem to indicate that it's not a player issue. There's definitely a problem on their end, and they also know this, which is why they said they'd look at all the network errors people are having and try to fix them.
I never have a problem with disconnects with anything else (my PC stays on for days at a time occasionally, connected the entire time). Hell, I don't even get disconnected from PSN when I get disconnected from KZ2 servers. I have my PS3 in the DMZ as a temporary solution, but it should hardly require such a thing, and how many people know how to do that or even know about it in the first place?
Every time something like this happens, you have people saying "it's not happening to me, so it must only be you." That really needs to stop.
Same thing, people see the turret on the spawn cam and would've already ran passed it before it can do anything. That or if it's an Engineer/Assault blow it up before the spawn invulnerability even wears off.Kittonwy said:Turretz?
Not to mention that it'll only focus on one person at a time. Who, upon spawn.. see point #1 & 2.
I still can't believe this never came up at some point during dev/testing...
Ya, I know. I just can't fathom how, "let's make spawning people invincible, but still able to deal damage and kill whoever/destroy whatever they want".. gets approved. :lolicechai said:
Couple that with friendly fire off and no spawn point placement border and it's the main reason why S&D is shit.
icechai said:
raYne said:
I don't know why GG goes so overboard with some of the things. :lol
Look at the spawn points. They're indescructible, can be built anywhere, and offer a short period of invincibility to whoever comes out of them (and who are still able to deal damage while invulnerable). Combine those three together and you have a massive skewing of balance. It's simply too much - it shouldn't have all three of those attributes. Make them destructible, limit where they can be built (i.e. not right on top of the enemy base, leading to a clusterfuck), or remove the invincibility it offers the player.
It's the same thing with the Assault. Rocket launcher, double armor, and double running speed (the latter of which also heals you). All three together are highly uneven. One of those has to go or be modified in some way.
Fenderputty
Banned
Anyone playing right now? Any GAF rooms?
test_account
XP-39C²
Couldnt the other team just stand around, or be close to the spawn point and kill the enemy pretty easy then? When you spawn, then you cant shoot after like 0.1 second. I am not sure how long you must wait before you can shoot after you spawn, but i think it is about 1 second or so.icechai said:
Nafai1123 said:
Unless GG plan on changing almost everything about the online then there is no conceivable way the MP will last...we're not talking about small changes here and there but massive changes that would change MP entirely from what it is now.
That is what the article is pointing out.
We are already seeing a decline in the number of players this week...450,000 last week and 350,000 this week...that is over a quarter drop off.
MP is already in decline just over 2 weeks of release not because of bugs, errors and faults in MP but because the MP enjoyment fades after you unlock any class post-Tactian.
Raist said:Bubububububbut limited ammo?
Aye, I never understood this reasoning considering how many weapons are lying around any battlefield at any given time, any of which can be picked up by anyone. Unless you're playing in a very small match, it wouldn't take too long for an Assault to eventually stumble upon a rifle or machine gun, removing his ammo problem entirely.
He also starts off with the powerful rocket launcher, which along with his double armor and healing/boost ability, generally makes it a lot easier for him to take out a player or two and then steal their weapons.
Assault is unbalanced, but the only real problem with that is if GG decides not to do anything about it. Even as strange as some of these decisions look on paper, and certainly in practice, I'm not going to fault GG too much when they haven't released their first class-balancing patch yet (and this is their first class-based multiplayer game as well).
Yeah, I know it just brings you back to default regen. But it gets you out the line of fire and does it faster. Point being, the Assault class shouldn't regen all the way to 120%Raist said:
That class is overpowered total.
Welcome to a world where balance means nothing.StateofMind said:
Thrakier said:
Are you ranked all time at 1930 or just for the week?
If you are referring to the week you got it locked at that rank.
There's over 640K players so anything under 6K should get you the 1% for the week.
If you play frequently and simply work for objectives regardless of kill count you will earn enough points to be in the top 10% or less.
Honestly I think some people concentrate so much on kills and KDR that the fail to get points for winning the match and performing their class for the team to win objectives and get points. I typically start a match trying to prepare my team for all of the objectives getting points and once we hit capture and hold or Body count then I focus on my kills and KDR. I'm typically on the winning team and usually play in random rooms and my KDR is not bad about 1.3. (I now average about 2.0) I'm currently ranked all time around 700 and just notice that people in random rooms seem to struggle playing to their role to win matches and focus on KDR instead of the objective. Also, no need to be reckless and rack up deaths during search and destroy you just need to play as a team and be patient. If my team has a huge lead in objectives I sometimes hold off in search and destroy instead of doing reckless death runs to plant the bomb... That's my 2 cents...
Still looking to play with a clan in a war to really experience people playing strictly to their class in a tactical manner. This game just needs some tweaking and they have a true online classic, because the underlying MP gameplay is amazing.
test_account said:
Invincibility only last a couple of secs, and as long as you don't shoot. If you shoot, you're vulnerable.
Would be way too frustrating to not be invicible for a couple of secs. It would turn into spawn points camping. Only turnaround would be to make spawn points invisible to the other team.
I'm fine with that. However, spawn points shouldn't be able to be dropped near objectives. It shouldn't be hard to fix this. Just invalidate them in the "green zones". Would be the same than dropping a drone beacon in buidings.
Here's my idea for assault class:
- Boost should DRAIN life, not regen it. Since assaults can regen up to 120%, it shouldn't be a problem. Just turn boost off, and regen up
- Extra life should be temporary, with a cooldown. Some sort of personal shield
Both these things would make people think twice when they play assault, and not just charge in melees, killing a ton of people because they have extra life and speed.
Would be neat if they'd also implement some sort of super badge ability that would be hard to unlock (for instance you'd have to use both a class' abilities XXX times) and usable only ONCE per match.
Like a super heal or super revive, with a zone of effect (and not just one guy) for medics, summoning an ATAC for tacticians, etc. Would add a little spice IMO
Rapping Granny
Banned
OMG finally got the repair badge, it's so awesome!
Raist said:
See, that's the thing. Spawn points would actually be balanced if they removed just one of its main three attributes. For example, if you remove the invincibility it gives the player, people would be far more considerate of where they spawn into, and it would also have the added effect (ideally) of the Tactiican being a lot smarter about where he places the spawn point.
Also, make them destructible, and you get that same effect of the Tactician being smarter about where he puts them.
Lastly, if you simply set a hard limit on where they can be placed on the map (not right next to enemy bases or objectives), the problems would be lessened automatically since that's the one thing that exacerbates every other issue with spawn points.
It doesn't require all of these things, just one.
Raist said:
This would probably work really well.
raYne said:
Well, I *did* tell them to add invulnerability from spawn points (squad members would accidentally kill each other; then again, lowered ff damage solved that one), which disappears after x seconds, or if the spawner starts shooting; but it seems they forgot to implement that last bit. Complain more on the official forum
EDIT: Actually I don't know if vulnerability disappears when you shoot or not. I never really paid attention
test_account
XP-39C²
Ye, not being able to drop spawn points within the "green zones" would probably be a good ideaRaist said:Invincibility only last a couple of secs, and as long as you don't shoot. If you shoot, you're vulnerable.
Would be way too frustrating to not be invicible for a couple of secs. It would turn into spawn points camping. Only turnaround would be to make spawn points invisible to the other team.
I'm fine with that. However, spawn points shouldn't be able to be dropped near objectives. It shouldn't be hard to fix this. Just invalidate them in the "green zones". Would be the same than dropping a drone beacon in buidings.
Here's my idea for assault class:
- Boost should DRAIN life, not regen it. Since assaults can regen up to 120%, it shouldn't be a problem. Just turn boost off, and regen up
- Extra life should be temporary, with a cooldown. Some sort of personal shield
Both these things would make people think twice when they play assault, and not just charge in melees, killing a ton of people because they have extra life and speed.
Would be neat if they'd also implement some sort of super badge ability that would be hard to unlock (for instance you'd have to use both a class' abilities XXX times) and usable only ONCE per match.
Like a super heal or super revive, with a zone of effect (and not just one guy) for medics, summoning an ATAC for tacticians, etc. Would add a little spice IMO
Oh, so you are invincible for a longer period of time after you spawn if you dont shoot? I didnt know that, thanks for the info!
I agree that these tings sounds like a good ideaRaist said:
That sounds like a pretty cool ideaRaist said:Would be neat if they'd also implement some sort of super badge ability that would be hard to unlock (for instance you'd have to use both a class' abilities XXX times) and usable only ONCE per match.
Like a super heal or super revive, with a zone of effect (and not just one guy) for medics, summoning an ATAC for tacticians, etc. Would add a little spice IMO
Sort of like in Resistance 2 with the different Berserker modes/abilities. But maybe that couldnt be used that often during a round in Killzone 2 compared to how many times you can use the berserkers in Resistance 2. I didnt have any problems with how many times you could use the berserker modes in Resistance 2 though, but i dont know if it would be just as cool if you could do it just as many times in Killzone 2 as well, but who knows
Zeliard said:
I think that the "not in green zones" + defusable by a specific class, which would take a couple of secs (and give 1xp), would work well. Overall the classes are really cool and stuff, but I think there should be more antagonism between them. For instance, give extra XP when you play class X and kill class Y.
Zeliard said:
ps3 in dmz is best solution, only solution to firewall issues. There is no reason not to do it.
When it comes to other things you are talking about, they have nothing to do with each other (you pc being "connected" and getting disconnect from server game have nothing to do with each other).
everyone needs to put their ps3 in dmz on their router.
Golvellius
Member
I think they should add a minimum detonation distance on rockets. If you hit someone in the body or head, close distance they would die from it but rocket wouldn't detonate. Shooting rockets into the floor at 2 metre distance for splash damage kills isn't very realistic.
NinjaCodah
Member
I don't think that they need to change the assault class. The fact is there are plenty of options for creating servers and you can disable classes and weapons already. The real problem is that it's nearly impossible to find a server that does this because no information about a room is displayed in the server selection screen.