KZObsessed
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I really hope Guerrilla support this with a ton of DLC. SP expansions as well as online. Extra features etc. But like Burnout, don't forget the free stuff! 
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KILLZONE 2 - The |OT|
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the_prime_mover
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FFObsessed said:I really hope Guerrilla support this with a ton of DLC. SP expansions as well as online. Extra features etc. But like Burnout, don't forget the free stuff!
A good mix of free and paid dlc would be good. Maybe some new modes or weapons for free like in Warhawk, with some new maps and classes as paid dlc. GG should also make sure that there is a tournament once a month to keep people interested in the online component (though I am having a hard time seeing why people would get bored . . .)
RedRedSuit
Member
bcn-ron said:
The medal and rank information is clearly already known locally by the game, since it displays this data right after the match. Therefore, it should be immediately cached on the local hard drive and available under "my stats." In fact, the game even does save SOMETHING to the hard drive at that point (as evidenced by the flashing save icon), though I have no idea what. The medal and rank info is on the order of hundreds of bytes, for the local player, which is nothing compared to the amount of data being thrown around every second during gameplay.
There is no logical reason for this information to not be immediately updated for the local player, since the game clearly knows about it right after the match but then "forgets" it for a while. Probably, this is because one code path is followed after the match (get data from host and display it), while another is followed under My Stats (get cached data as downloaded from stats server).
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As for updates, my chief thing is coop. I would replay this on Elite or Vet with a friend in a NY second.
Always-honest
Banned
wow.. was in some 32 player games yesterday.. amazing how it keeps running..
i never even noticed a single slowdown
i never even noticed a single slowdown
UntoldDreams
Member
They really should replicate something like Socom Combined Assault except with time attack and point based missions.
In the interim they really do need to get the BOTS back into multiplayer.
In the interim they really do need to get the BOTS back into multiplayer.
gregor7777
Banned
Always-honest said:
Shit...not here. I get some pretty noticeable slowdown in framerate when the shit hits the fan.
Your ranking versus all the other players (who played in different games on different hosts) is something the local system does not know, and couldn't accurately display. If you cached the score total locally, you'd have a half-correct result. Maybe that's more desirable than the delayed results. I don't know.RedRedSuit said:
It's a distributed system. The games are hosted by many machines that don't need to talk to each other during matches, but the player database is for all intents and purposes one centralized resource.
For all I know, the player db may as well be updated immediately, but there may be extra front end servers that pull/format/sort/cache the rank lists to lessen the read-only load on the db.
RedRedSuit
Member
bcn-ron said:
Certainly. But I just want MY rank score (meaning, how much XP I have and that I'm a Captain) and MY medals/ribbons. My standing among other people is different and is perfectly okay to be delayed somewhat. That doesn't affect how I'll play my next match, so whatever.
I think it's much more desirable, personally. Unlocks and Rankings are two different screens, even. If your stuff in Rankings is a little off, you won't care -- that's just a high score board. But if your stuff in Unlocks (where you're trying to figure out which ribbon you should go for next, etc.) is off, that's confusing and weird, IMO.
Yes, and this all certainly applies to other people's data -- which is only relevant in showing your rankings compared to the the world/friends. But your own data is already known by the game and IMO should be displayed immediately correctly, since it's even on its own screen.
Exactly. You get everything way too fast in this game. It took me a good two months to even get to level 36 in COD4 (because I suck) but in KZ2, even while being about 5th or 6th on the team consistently and only winning about half my games I was still able to unlock everything pretty fast.Zen said:
GG put together a good package here but they dropped the ball in those few crucial aspects that are probably gonna lose them some players. Though I doubt its gonna be enough to render the online space "dead".
UntoldDreams
Member
.GqueB. said:
Nah its fine the way it is. All they have to do is introduce some tournament challenges by region (by state, east, west, etc) and they are all set. Later introduce some DLC.
Its not necessary to force people to grind incessantly to have fun online.
MisterSINISTER
Member
i am still waiting on my rain level for DLC
the_prime_mover
Member
.GqueB. said:
With the ability to search for actual servers rather than using a matchmaking system, how low a player count can we go before something is considered "dead"? Warhawk didn't/doesn't have a massive player base but it never feels empty, though it can be difficult to find a good game at certain times of day (within an acceptable ping range). However, it was impossible to find a full (ranked) game in R:FoM after 1.5 years (yes, yes, that is after 1.5 years). Warhawk doesn't even add real additional benefit when ranking up and it is very difficult for people to rank up in that game. I think that the ranking system for KZ2 is functional in that it helps ease people into the game at a consistent pace while maintaining a balance across all classes (and, subsequently, all ranks).
So, I don't know that more ranks are needed for KZ2, but some post game spoils would probably be ideal and is likely what many people are looking for. Something that gives players that sense of accomplishment after the match. It is stupid to see the rank bar after every match when all it says is that we have ranked up to the highest level. Ribbons have value outside of just collecting 8 of a kind. Seeing the post game ribbon rundown in R:FoM was always great and GG should introduce that.
I was about to say he could've been a scout who repeatedly picked up a shotgun.. but eh, whatever. Wouldn't be surprised if he was environment glitching.commish said:I'd be running along by myself, then bam, shotgun to the back, no one near me. I assume he was glitching through the map, if that's a possibility. He definitely wasn't good/lucky - we've all had amazing rounds of luck or whatnot, but I've played this game enough to know when someone is just better than me. I didnt' even see him once the entire match, which is why I thought he was invis. Doesn't really matter much I guess, as long as there is no known exploits out there
As for the bolded, youtube takes care of that quite nicely.. :lol
BruceLeeRoy
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Kittonwy said:The thing about Killzone 2 is that the game really opens up when you have all the classes and abilities unlocked.
Yeah and thats when it really gets fun. In one match I will switch to almost every class at least once. Protection / Medic - Assasination / Sab + Boost - Capture and Hold / Assault + Shotgun / Sab / Engineer and so on.
Hypertrooper
Member
My First Killzone 2 Multiplayer Match:
http://www.killzone.com/kz/tour_round_history.psml?kz_match_id=2453773&kz_file_id=2176220
Killzone 2 is a very good game and it will be my favourite PS3 game. Yesterday i bought my PS3 with LBP
http://www.killzone.com/kz/tour_round_history.psml?kz_match_id=2453773&kz_file_id=2176220
Killzone 2 is a very good game and it will be my favourite PS3 game. Yesterday i bought my PS3 with LBP
UntoldDreams
Member
Kittonwy said:I would take a map with flowing cherry petalz.
That was a map in Killzone 1 with cherry blossom trees.
And this is different than any other MP game with classes... how?BruceLeeRoy said:
Just using CoD as an example, I'll rotate between 3-4 classes during any old game. Depending on map and gametype. Start out with my usual soldier (assault rifle + stopping power + bandolier). Swap out to my heavy gunner (LMG + stopping power + deep impact) to take out called in choppers. Swap out to my spec-ops build (silenced SMG + dead silence + UAV Jammer) to sneak around and take out the enemy instead of fighting on the front lines. Swap out to sniper (sniper + claymore + whatever) when needed etc.
bcn-ron said:
^That's why I asked. Like it's exclusive to KZ2 when it's the same in any other class based MP game. Hell, any game where you unlock stuff.Kittonwy said:The thing about Killzone 2 is that the game really opens up when you have all the classes and abilities unlocked.
DevelopmentArrested
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this will properly be an unpopular opinion here but
i kinda wish there was an option to have class-less kz2 matches.
in the first 3 days prior to official release it was great. no air supports, spies, etc.
far too hectic now esp with 32 players on small maps. game isnt designed properly for it.
i kinda wish there was an option to have class-less kz2 matches.
in the first 3 days prior to official release it was great. no air supports, spies, etc.
far too hectic now esp with 32 players on small maps. game isnt designed properly for it.
Finally beat that bloody campaign. I guess I made a mistake starting of on Veteran. Most of the game was easy enough but visari square and the Radic's enemy waves were absolute hell. That said, I really liked the end part of the game. The visual effects went through the roof. Truly mind blowing.
DevelopmentArrested said:
While I don't necessarily find the games too hectic. I did enjoy the 'even playing feild' times as well. I'd like to see a 'no classes' option for the sheer balance of it. No C4, to turrets, no disguises, just everyone with Assault Rifles. It would probably be pretty addictive.
at raYne: I think kittonwy was saying that the relatively fast pace at which you rank up in Killzone is ok because he finds that once you've reached the top rank you don't lose steam like you do in other games because the actual use of the classes and abilities is very rewarding, whereas in some games you feel motivated to reach that reward, but once you do, you don't even like using it.
Eh, dunno about that. I'd say it's up to the individual whether or not one loses steam after you unlock everything.cakefoo said:
The argument's been brought up here before that because you unlock everything so quickly, you lose motivation to play quicker than you do vs other games with a longer "max out" period. Particularly when the max out period of this is like 2-3 days versus weeks or more in something like CoD. And looking at the GAF clans... yeah.
That may be his opinion, but it's no hard and fast rule and it certainly isn't exclusive to KZ.
PedroLumpy
Member
In the end, I would hope the game is fun enough to play on it's own merits that no rewards are needed. Sure it's nifty to have, but I would hope the game is inherently fun without them. Prestige 10 then quit players in COD always bugged me. I dunno I played Quake, TF, Doom, CS etc. etc. before all this rank up stuff came along, just strikes me as an odd mentality. But to each their own.
Hypertrooper said:My First Killzone 2 Multiplayer Match:
http://www.killzone.com/kz/tour_round_history.psml?kz_match_id=2453773&kz_file_id=2176220
Killzone 2 is a very good game and it will be my favourite PS3 game. Yesterday i bought my PS3 with LBP
You have made a wise choice my friend.
Dubbedinenglish
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ChryZ said:Finished my Elite run tonight
Outstanding. Out-fucking-standing.
Revolutionary
Member
So I'm finally plowing through the Story mode... up to the final boss fight...
God, and I thought Sheva's AI was incompetent. Obviously, this isn't a co-op game, but I'd think the point of me having someone by my side was so that he would help at least a little bit. But Rico? Nah. He's just going to take cover for 90% of the fight, and that other 10% is him taking shots and needing me to resuscitate him.
It's amazing - they put in all this work on enemy AI and they leave friendly AI dumb as shit.
God, and I thought Sheva's AI was incompetent. Obviously, this isn't a co-op game, but I'd think the point of me having someone by my side was so that he would help at least a little bit. But Rico? Nah. He's just going to take cover for 90% of the fight, and that other 10% is him taking shots and needing me to resuscitate him.
It's amazing - they put in all this work on enemy AI and they leave friendly AI dumb as shit.
Dubbedinenglish
Banned
rexor0717 said:
Prolly this week considering all the techno jizz that is GDC during the same week.
BruceLeeRoy
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raYne said:
Wasn't saying it was different just that I really like how its implemented in KZ2. I would also argue that the differences between the classes and the abilities they have are nothing like COD.
