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KILLZONE 2 - The |OT|
- Thread starter BruceLeeRoy
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Tharsis Depot is basically unplayable since they decided to introduce a host of new cheap exploits by removing spawn invincibility. At least with spawn invincibility the game had a bit more consideration from moment to moment, now it's just more of a poorly designed shit show with a lot more 'spawn/die' even outside of objectives that ultimately makes the entire experience worse and a lot less paced than before. At least with the crappy S&D gameplay you use to have a few moments to do something before you died. I hasn't altered how people use spawns in any effective way, sure they jump around a bit more, but so what. They're all camped within an instant, no matter how good the tactician.
S&D still sucks, in fact it's clearly worse than before for most players. Good or bad tacticians means little for the fact that the fundamental problem of S&D went untouched. The problem is still one of relative distance between both teams being unbalanced on default (which would be fine were there but a limit on this next part) and equal at worst (0M from objective).
I look forward to watching the player base continue to drop, as it should.
I'm done with this game as anything other than a trophy generator.
S&D still sucks, in fact it's clearly worse than before for most players. Good or bad tacticians means little for the fact that the fundamental problem of S&D went untouched. The problem is still one of relative distance between both teams being unbalanced on default (which would be fine were there but a limit on this next part) and equal at worst (0M from objective).
I look forward to watching the player base continue to drop, as it should.
I'm done with this game as anything other than a trophy generator.
I've been playing as a tactician a lot recently and I love it. It's amazing how a few well placed spawns can turn the tide of battle. The only problem is people are dumb and throw them in dumb spots.
I can't stress how much I love the spawn vulnerability. It really forces teams to set up and think for once. You either have to place the spawn grenade in a discrete place or have players set up around the spawn to protect it; it's no longer throw and forget. Even the 32 player matches on the somewhat smaller maps play well now. It's amazing that many players rather repeatedly die upon spawning rather than spawn at the base though :lol
I can't stress how much I love the spawn vulnerability. It really forces teams to set up and think for once. You either have to place the spawn grenade in a discrete place or have players set up around the spawn to protect it; it's no longer throw and forget. Even the 32 player matches on the somewhat smaller maps play well now. It's amazing that many players rather repeatedly die upon spawning rather than spawn at the base though :lol
Zen said:
People asked for spawn invincibility to be removed, players adapt, now we have people like yourself now complaining about the invincibility being removed.
The game now rewards team-work even more, you have to guard the spawn point now, so it's best to play with a clan.
ShinoguTakeruKoeru
Member
I've been picking up the game again recently since classes have been over for a couple weeks. Playing single player campaign, and just adore this game.
Templar just died, and holy crap I GET TO PILOT THE MECH?!
Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
Banned
Kittonwy said:
People really wanted spawn invincibility to be removed? Dumbasses. That was/is a great feature espacially for games with fixed spawn points but Killzone 2 doesn't have so I don't know how it'll effect the game.
Bearillusion
Banned
Who's buying the new maps this week? I never bought the first two because they don't appeal to me but I love the look of the next two. Sadly it seems like a waste of money if I can't use them regularly online.
Of course. It ruined the game imo.
shagg_187 said:
Of course. It ruined the game imo.
Kittonwy said:
They can't do that. Imagine they would sell a map pack with all four maps for 4,99$. The whining of those who bought the first one for 5,99$ would be massive. They should have given them for free - KZ2 doesn't have a lot of maps to begin with and GG can be happy if people get attached to their game so that they all will buy KZ3 for sure. Look what happend to COD4. It's not like there is no competition in the online genre. With MAG, Uncharted 2, MW2 and probably Starhawk coming up it doesn't look too good for KZ2. Premium priced map packs which divide the player community don't help, that's for sure.
Flash and Thunder DLC confirmed for today.
Interview about it up on killzone.com
http://www.killzone.com/kz/news.psml?kz_news_article=DLC+2+Q+and+A+with+Stuart+Billinghurst
Note: "frantic fun" is the new "clusterfuck"
Interview about it up on killzone.com
http://www.killzone.com/kz/news.psml?kz_news_article=DLC+2+Q+and+A+with+Stuart+Billinghurst
Note: "frantic fun" is the new "clusterfuck"
Bearillusion
Banned
8-24 because that's how many people will be using them online. Am I right? Is this thing on?
Bearillusion
Banned
Hands on reports say that it caused the framerate to drop to sub 20 for 30 seconds. Sometimes longer. Which would be annoying if it weren't for the fact that I just made that up.
TTP said:
well wait until you find the campers blocking indoors access with turrets and C4, is the S&D objective out in the open? that would be hilarious :lol
and yeah, yesterday I played some games with GAFe and Tacticians keep placing spawns stupidly wrong, what the? do people never learn?
Just got the last map pack recently and only played the map a few times on the first day. I've since dropped them from rotation since a lot of people still don't have them and can't join. Good chances I'm skipping this pack unless I know people will play it (aka make it free Sony).
PuppetMaster
Member
Finally got around DLing and trying the new patch. I am surprised to say that I really hate the new aiming mode they put in. I thought putting in faster controls would improve the game. But it turns out I like it better on the default setting much more.
KZObsessed
Member
Played a few games last night, and even though the tacticians were terrible in nearly every game, (except for Gon who did a good job) the game played so much better. No longer did people place spawns right in front of the S&D objective and simply spam until victory. They were now placed outside the S&D room or quite away from it and people had to spawn and move forwards as a team. Sure the defending team has the advantage now but, well, they should. We still manged to plant tho and win the objectives. It now plays so much better than before. Our spawns weren't even camped because the teams were pretty much even and we simply didn't let them. I'd place counter spawns and make sure we had two spawns far from each other so we can always escape from any campers and take them out from another direction. Worked really well.
If the teams are stacked, which can happen a lot in this game still, or your team is a lot weaker then obviously you're going to get overwhelmed and camped. That's the basis of team based games, you're reliant on your team. If they're shit, you're gonna lose. That's why you should try and play with friends or clan mates as much as possible.
I actually found a game with next to no lag last night as well, must have been a UK host, and I went 108-12 :lol So much fun.
If the teams are stacked, which can happen a lot in this game still, or your team is a lot weaker then obviously you're going to get overwhelmed and camped. That's the basis of team based games, you're reliant on your team. If they're shit, you're gonna lose. That's why you should try and play with friends or clan mates as much as possible.
I actually found a game with next to no lag last night as well, must have been a UK host, and I went 108-12 :lol So much fun.
needlesmcgirk
Member
Last night I was whipping some more ass and I got disconnected. Anyone know what happens to the stats you rack up in a round you are disconnected from? I'm pretty sure I was going to get at least 2 ribbons as well but don't think I obtained them seeing as I was disconnected.
SecretBonusPoint
Banned
needlesmcgirk said:
Yeah, always a bit devestating that. I think theyre completely lost I'm afraid.
Also sick of Blood Gracht. Jesus christ. GG really needs to patch in the ability to see what maps are in rotation from the game list. Thats like basic online game 101 shit, embarassing that its not there.
KZObsessed
Member
Lince said:Brits haz no skills
:lol True! Good job I'm only half brittish!
KZObsessed
Member
Yep! Viva Espana!
Dubbedinenglish
Banned
Flash & Thunder peepz....Flash and Thunder today!
KZObsessed
Member
Teens in a swimming pool? I'm coming over!
Yeah I'm ready to play when the maps go up. I wantz my trophies first tho :lol
Yeah I'm ready to play when the maps go up. I wantz my trophies first tho :lol
KZObsessed
Member
wtf :lol
KZObsessed
Member
Thrakier said:
I was just using you for your ivory :3
KZObsessed
Member
FUUCK
I get the same error while trying to buy something as I did last week
"an error has ocurred.
(80023102)"
No KZ2 map pack for me until 2moro
I get the same error while trying to buy something as I did last week
"an error has ocurred.
(80023102)"
No KZ2 map pack for me until 2moro