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[Dibbz]

I don't think we'll have any dedicated servers on Killzone 2, maybe (hopefully) on future games, according to the interview I posted a couple of pages back. But at least they are considering adding hardcore, no respawn mode to Killzone 2.

Dont get the need for a hardcore mode at all. KZ2 is all about the classes and including a mode where 2 of the classes become useless (medic and tactitian) and 2 classes become stupid powerfull (scout and assault) seems so damn retarded.

GG, if there is one thing they should learn from KZ2 it is don't take what the community say to heart and change their game left and right because of them.

KZ2 is fine as is. The only changes needed are some tweeks to the lobby and player limits for maps.

 

[A.R.K]

It's a fetch weapon with obvious disadvantages. Can't possibly see how someone can complain about that though surely there will be.

This is KZ2 dude, there will always be someone bitching about something

 

[turn]

I don't know how well the flamethrower will work in MP. I hope the find the happy medium of shield-taking-downing.

 

[beast786]

SO when are we getting this DLC beauty?

QFNP

 

[Jason's Ultimatum]

Looks like I'm done with this game. My analog sticks are so effed up that It's impossible to even aim and look. :lol

 

[alr1ght]

I hope with the new pickups that you can't carry a pistol.

 

[gibration]

so I take it from the trailer that any class will be able to pick up the flamethrower/boltgun and use it?

 

[Dibbz]

I don't know how well the flamethrower will work in MP. I hope the find the happy medium of shield-taking-downing.

Well the flamethrower lacks range and the maps seems to have some open areas. S&D will have to be designed so well on this map. If the objectives are indoors the screw GG.

The arc tower map is the second level from the campaign. You can see the place you land in the carrier with Alpha team stright down the middle in this first pic.

You can see the big sliding arc tower piece in the centre at the top in this pic, which is where the camera is looking down from in the first pic.

Good to see that it's a level we are familiar with but in a different time setting and some expected layout changes ala Radec.

 

[Liabe Brave]

Dont get the need for a hardcore mode at all. KZ2 is all about the classes and including a mode where 2 of the classes become useless (medic and tactitian) and 2 classes become stupid powerfull (scout and assault) seems so damn retarded.

Tactician would become useless, but medic? Medic would be extremely powerful, allowing the wounded to return to action.

FFS GG they should put damn limits or have dedicated rooms with set limits on them! If only everyone could see how good the game is when your not in the middle of a 32p clusterfuck.

Killzone 2 played with smart tacticians, banned assault/boost, good host with minimal lag and proper maps such as Salmon is the best multiplayer fps ever.

I thought choice was a good thing? You absolutely can play this way if you want...and the people who want to play with rockets and clusterfucks can too. Why do you want to enfore your tastes on others?

And Lince, I think part of the problem is your dedication. More than 500 hours in 140 days since release means you've averaged over 3.5 hours every single day. Since I'm sure you weren't on every day, your actual playtime per day is even higher. And that doesn't even include if you were in the beta. Your experience is far from typical for a Killzone 2 user, and generalizing from it is shaky.

 

[Dibbz]

Tactician would become useless, but medic? Medic would be extremely powerful, allowing the wounded to return to action.

Yup you're right on the medic part, my bad. They would be really powerfull. My point still stands that taking out a class by defualt because of the way a mode is would be backwards. Funny thing is I can see GG changing their game because of people shouting a screaming about it.

I thought choice was a good thing? You absolutely can play this way if you want...and the people who want to play with rockets and clusterfucks can too. Why do you want to enfore your tastes on others?

The devs make the games and design them. We play the game they way they intended it to be played. Allowing us to basically make our own games within their game whilst not forcing their intended vision on us just seems so retarded. It's like GG saying oh we couldn't be bothered to design and play test MP so here are a bunch of options you can tweek and make your own games.

When you think of Killzone online you should have a pretty solid idea of how it plays. Right now there is about 20 different variations of the online mode. There is no identity for KZ2 MP.

Enough of that anyways. I love KZ2 online, got over 100 hours in it but I just wish all of the games played like the last couple of 4v4 matches I played.

 

[JoJo13]

Yup you're right on the medic part, my bad. They would be really powerfull. My point still stands that taking out a class by defualt because of the way a mode is would be backwards. Funny thing is I can see GG changing their game because of people shouting a screaming about it.


The devs make the games and design them. We play the game they way they intended it to be played. Allowing us to basically make our own games within their game whilst not forcing their intended vision on us just seems so retarded. It's like GG saying oh we couldn't be bothered to design and play test MP so here are a bunch of options you can tweek and make your own games.

When you think of Killzone online you should have a pretty solid idea of how it plays. Right now there is about 20 different variations of the online mode. There is no identity for KZ2 MP.

Enough of that anyways. I love KZ2 online, got over 100 hours in it but I just wish all of the games played like the last couple of 4v4 matches I played.

That's why the biggest fault of KZ2's mp is NOT STANDARDIZING RANKED GAMES IN ORDER TO MITIGATE THE CHAOS.

GG's intent was to 'let people chose' how to play. Well, that's all fine and dandy for casual games, but for ranked experiences? It should be tightly controlled with what the developers feel is the way the game is intended to play.

 

[Liabe Brave]

The devs make the games and design them. We play the game they way they intended it to be played. Allowing us to basically make our own games within their game whilst not forcing their intended vision on us just seems so retarded.

I actually strongly advocate definite developer vision, and really appreciate when a game doesn't feel committee-meeting bland. But I've read many comments on GAF that are exactly opposite, and feel that dev attempts to force a vision on players is what's retarded. And remember, that happened with this game, too: all that whining about how the controls were "broken" or "stupid" or "wrong". Guerrilla didn't see that coming, I'm sure, but I bet the open-ended nature of multiplayer was meant to provided a more flexible playground and avoid this type of complaint.

GG's intent was to 'let people chose' how to play. Well, that's all fine and dandy for casual games, but for ranked experiences? It should be tightly controlled with what the developers feel is the way the game is intended to play.

I definitely agree with this in principle, but I think you're missing something here: maybe Guerrilla intended the chaos. It's pretty easy to gloss the action as "split-second intensity" and view it as a positive thing. Just because you prefer the slower, more tactical play options doesn't mean those were the core essence of their idea.

 

[turn]

I'm still so impressed with Guerrilla for changing how the revive gun looks.
What developer cares so much about their game that they alter the way something in it looks? Especially since it wasn't that big a deal, and it made no changes to gameplay.

 

[Kittonwy]

I'm on nao.

 

[polyh3dron]

I'm on nao.

I'll be on in a few... find us a good room kitton!!

 

[Kittonwy]

I'll be on in a few... find us a good room kitton!!

I found teh worzt room with people talking about succer instead of playin.

 

[xBuTcHeRx]

So when the new maps coming?

 

[thejared]

in case im missing it, is there a way to tell if radar is on in the new lobby? is it hidden in there somewhere?

that seems to be the only thing causing me to enter and then leave a room once i realize im able to tell where everyone is at all times. why would anyone want that option on?

 

[mr_nothin]

Trailer for the new map pack:
http://www.playstationpure.be/blog/item/1032/Exclusief-trailer-derde-Killzone-2-DLC-

Looks fun!
Seems like you can only walk when you have either gun in your hand. (which is how it should have been for the rocket launcher :/)

 

[thejared]

Looks fun!
Seems like you can only walk when you have either gun in your hand. (which is how it should have been for the rocket launcher :/)

agreed, theres no reason why the guy with the heaviest armor and heaviest weapons should be able to run let alone run like the speedy gonzalez all over the map.

 

[Broadbandito]

anyone playing? Im getting on very soon

 

[icechai]

anyone playing? Im getting on very soon

boooo none of you were on when i checked a few times around 9p-10p

and yeah agree about only able to walk with rocket launcher. Boost could make you sprint and the rest is walking

 

[Robot 492]

anyone playing? Im getting on very soon

I am.

I was supposed to play a tourney, but the servers are fucked up and no one can join their clan matches...

 

[Kittonwy]

boooo none of you were on when i checked a few times around 9p-10p

and yeah agree about only able to walk with rocket launcher. Boost could make you sprint and the rest is walking

Allow assault to run only while in boost but run disabled when boost is recharging, that would make assault more strategic and less over-powered.

 

[Kittonwy]

GG guyz, that RNA warzone room was laggy though. I lagged out and tried to get back in but it was full.

 

[templeusox]

I just got absolutely slaughtered in a 12 v 12 match. I'm not one to make accusations, but I feel like they had to be lag-switchers. I've never been embarrassed like that in this game before. It was like men and boys. Every time I turned someone was standing with a shotgun ready to blast me. Very frustrating, but a good lesson.

 

[AranhaHunter]

in case im missing it, is there a way to tell if radar is on in the new lobby? is it hidden in there somewhere?

that seems to be the only thing causing me to enter and then leave a room once i realize im able to tell where everyone is at all times. why would anyone want that option on?

I don't like that either, but I don't think you can tell just based on the lobby.

 

[Firewire]

gg guys!

 

[mgviperman]

GG guys. Geez I'm rusty, can't aim for shit.

 

[Kittonwy]

gg guys!

Whenever I play this game I always feel like Narville screaming at ppl.

 

[Lince]

And Lince, I think part of the problem is your dedication. More than 500 hours in 140 days since release means you've averaged over 3.5 hours every single day. Since I'm sure you weren't on every day, your actual playtime per day is even higher. And that doesn't even include if you were in the beta. Your experience is far from typical for a Killzone 2 user, and generalizing from it is shaky.

well since you love your statistics... I'm almost sure I was on every day and I haven't played since I went on holidays in mid-June, so actually thats 500 hours in 110 days. I reckon I played far too much but that doesn't make my opinions or criticism 'shaky'.

 

[Broadbandito]

man I have been sucky tonight. Will play tomorrow to improve todays stats lol

 

[TTP]

I just got absolutely slaughtered in a 12 v 12 match. I'm not one to make accusations, but I feel like they had to be lag-switchers. I've never been embarrassed like that in this game before. It was like men and boys. Every time I turned someone was standing with a shotgun ready to blast me. Very frustrating, but a good lesson.

*add predictable TTP KZ2 bitching comment here*

 

[StealthGoblin]

I've gotta get back into playing this. Its been far too long. I like the look of the two new maps, and the trailer makes them look awesome.

Lovely.

 

[Bearillusion]

That's why the biggest fault of KZ2's mp is NOT STANDARDIZING RANKED GAMES IN ORDER TO MITIGATE THE CHAOS.

GG's intent was to 'let people chose' how to play. Well, that's all fine and dandy for casual games, but for ranked experiences? It should be tightly controlled with what the developers feel is the way the game is intended to play.

Ding ding ding. Totally agree.

 

[Internet Celebrity]

*add predictable TTP KZ2 bitching comment here*

It'd be awesome if you posted like this all the time :lol

That's why the biggest fault of KZ2's mp is NOT STANDARDIZING RANKED GAMES IN ORDER TO MITIGATE THE CHAOS.

GG's intent was to 'let people chose' how to play. Well, that's all fine and dandy for casual games, but for ranked experiences? It should be tightly controlled with what the developers feel is the way the game is intended to play.

Ahh but you see the issue here is that Guerilla intended the game to be played with 32 players on Blood Gracht, with one tiny S&D room being filled to the brim with rockets and grenades and shotguns and a whole mess of other nonsense that you find in public games. (See Guerilla's very own Clan Warfare tourny for details).

So by creating "dedicated official rooms", even the option of playing the game in its best form would be removed.

 

[TTP]

It'd be awesome if you posted like this all the time :lol

It should be tightly controlled with what the developers feel is the way the game is intended to play.

*add predictable TTP comment pointing at official Corinth Crossing 32p clusterfucks tournaments here*

 

[Lince]

for ranked experiences? It should be tightly controlled with what the developers feel is the way the game is intended to play.

well, GAFe won the official Guerrilla Games Killzone 2 clans tournament... rules were 32 players games on Corinth Crossing with friendly fire enabled and every class/weapon unlocked, it was absolutely chaotic, a lagfest slideshow clusterfucking combo. Do we have to believe that is the way the game is intended to be played? thanks God then for custom games.

edit: fucking beaten by TTP... I'm rusty, I think after one month of not touching a controller I might as well give up on videogames once & for all :lol

 

[Facism]

It'd be awesome if you posted like this all the time :lol



Ahh but you see the issue here is that Guerilla intended the game to be played with 32 players on Blood Gracht, with one tiny S&D room being filled to the brim with rockets and grenades and shotguns and a whole mess of other nonsense that you find in public games. (See Guerilla's very own Clan Warfare tourny for details).

Us in GAFe won that and only took one game seriously. 32 players is just a bulletpoint, not a benefit.

 

[Internet Celebrity]

Us in GAFe won that and only took one game seriously. 32 players is just a bulletpoint, not a benefit.

I was lurking the whole time. Hey, when my clan gets a bit more valor maybe we can play a match?

http://killzone.com/kz/clan.psml?kz_clan_id=53164 Unbeaten

(That one loss was a result of the game putting both clans on their team...10v0 :lol)

 

[Bearillusion]

They need to make some maps that are not set on Helghast. Earth maps perhaps.

 

[agaru]

*add predictable TTP comment pointing at official Corinth Crossing 32p clusterfucks tournaments here*

:lol

Personally, the only complaint I have about 32p clusterfucks is the framedrops. The crazy chaos in those games adds so much fun (yeah TTP I like "shitty" games ), not to mention how challenging it is to try to stay alive in that mess while making the most kills/completing the objective at the same time. I'm all for 4v4, 6v6 no rockets and such games, but there were times when I played 32p warzones exclusively and it was absolute addiction.

 

[Internet Celebrity]

:lol

Personally, the only complaint I have about 32p clusterfucks is the framedrops. The crazy chaos in those games adds so much fun (yeah TTP I like "shitty" games ), not to mention how challenging it is to try to stay alive in that mess while making the most kills/completing the objective at the same time. I'm all for 4v4, 6v6 no rockets and such games, but there were times when I played 32p warzones exclusively and it was absolute addiction.

You weird.

Anyway, does anyone feel like giving me a hand with some tactics for this 2v2 tourny my clan has going on?

Here's my match from last night, it went pretty badly as you can see. We were playing against two of the best players from my clan though...

http://killzone.com/kz/tour_round_history.psml?kz_match_id=6576268&kz_file_id=6821153
(I'm rc94 by the way.)

 

[JB1981]

My god the boltgun is going to destroy people :lol

 

[ChryZ]

My god the boltgun is going to destroy people :lol

Its reload time seems pretty long, miss and you're done

 

[JardeL]

I hope with the new pickups that you can't carry a pistol.

M4 is the most effective weapon of KZ2 , both short & long range ... Why wouldn't I want ?..

 

[KZObsessed]

:lol

oh my long lost love FFO... don't worry you give me back your love & I'll give you a new PS3

I NEVER TOOK IT AWAY ITS STILL YOURS!

Nah I'm not in GAFe, my clan is VGE0 (don't know if you remember).

I'm vrc over at AVF by the way.

Oh and FFO you called me a king and bowed to me <3

I did? Awesome!

:bow Your Majesty! :bow

I WANTZ MY PS3 BACK DAMN YOU!!!!! Do something FFO!!!!

Hey hey, I'm working on it.

Spoiler

*steals Lince's PS3* hee hee

 

[ViolentP]

It might be that time to finally boot this one up again, buy all the map packs and get into the shit. Though I'd be lying if I didn't say I missed the old Resistance days.

 

[Fersis]

Hey hey, I'm working on it.

Spoiler

*steals Lince's PS3* hee hee

Hey man ,im the most useless person in the world and i could fix my PS3.
Give it a try!

 

[KZObsessed]

Really? What was wrong with it?

I might actually be able to get it fixed pretty cheap. I'm just gonna wait til August 18th see if they announce the Slim... at a good price. No more than £299 plz.