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KILLZONE 2 - The |OT|
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BadlyCookedTurkey
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Rader off??
:lol
:lol
KZObsessed
Member
-viper- said:
GG dev who used to post here. He's gone to a better place now... (making KZ3
)Here's my post to Eric Boltjes:
As someone who has played KZ2 for over 500 hours here are my suggestions:
Technical:
Lag. Lag is a big issue in KZ2. Ranging from a simple annoyance to a game damaging experience. Please do whatever you can to reduce the amount of lag present in the game. And please use dedicated servers for KZ3 next time.
Gameplay:
The Assault Class. Extra armour, boost ability, rocket launcher. Just horribly unbalanced class. Not only that but you can swap boost with any character eventually and there's no limit to how many rocket wielding assault classes you can have on one team. Have you ever played a game where everyone has the boost ability no matter what class or that half the other team just spams rockets everywhere? It happens a lot and ruins the game. I'd say it's what has put the most people off the online experience so it's a big problem.
Despite that though I do recognise that the Assault class does have two distinct uses. It is used to break through turret defenses and can stop S&R ending in stalemate on larger maps due to their boost ability.
My suggestion would be to split these two roles up among two separate classes:
1. The Demolitions Class - EMP grenades with a larger blast radius than normal grenades which do extra damage to turrets and minimal damage to humans. EMP launcher to take down Air Drones which also does minimal damage to human players.
2. Assassin Class - 20% less health - Boost as primary ability so you can't give it to other classes and the ability to use knives in melee.
These are just off the top of my head but I think getting rid of the Assault Class for something like this would make the online experience much more balanced and enjoyable.
I hope you like my suggestions and I want to finish off by saying that KZ2, despite it's issues, is my favorite online shooter ever and I'm sure I'll be increasing my playtime beyond the 600 hours mark in the future
Cheers.
Basically Lag and Assault Class are the two biggest issues with the online for me. What do you think about my idea of two new classes to replace the Assault Class? They were just off the top of my head so I obviously havn't thought in depth about balancing/weapons/abilities and such but just generally, would you guys agree that's a good idea?
KZObsessed
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I only posted 2 things
He'll read it if he knows what's good for him! *shakes fist*
He'll read it if he knows what's good for him! *shakes fist*
You're ideas are good FF but I think an EMP rocket would be sufficient. That would at least take care of air bots. For ground bots their should be a finite amount for each round. That way if your turret dies it's out until the next round starts. People spam turrets way too much. Deploy, die, deploy over and over. I hate the damn things.
BadlyCookedTurkey
Member
FFObsessed said:GG dev who used to post here. He's gone to a better place now... (making KZ3
Here's my post to Eric Boltjes:
Basically Lag and Assault Class are the two biggest issues with the online for me. What do you think about my idea of two new classes to replace the Assault Class? They were just off the top of my head so I obviously havn't thought in depth about balancing/weapons/abilities and such but just generally, would you guys agree that's a good idea?
Love the ideas. Another way to stop AS is something I'd like, as AS has become my biggest annoyance.
I only ever play with assault class on in public games, and if the rockets are flying (and I don't feel like fucking about with the GL) I'll just quit straight away.
Don't mind joining tournaments with boost (so long as launchers are off) and will enjoy some boost -shotty, even though it's scrubby as hell. :lol
At time's I've joined a public game, and it's been so awful I say, 'if this was my first ever game of Killzone, I'd never play it again.'
I guess that's why I want assault nerfer, so more players can enjoy the awesome game. But assault doesn't really bother me.
All I want fixed is the lag tbh. Yeah a lot could be fixed, but it's too much work I'm sure. Save it for Killzone 3, just make the game playable at all times.
Recently I've had shocking lag in some clan matches. I always question if it's Lag switching it's that bad (and I've definitely seen people lag switching, esp on S&R) but in most cases it's probably just awful lag.
BadlyCookedTurkey
Member
Massa said:
Sorry I thought you probably meant that.
Radar fully off is as bad if not worse. Just a pile of fuckers camping in corners all game.
I have been away from Killzone for a few months.. Picked up the map pack today. There is no one playing them??!
Is the online community dead on this game already? There are not very many servers out there. Do you guys play regularly? I want to try these new maps I just dropped 13 bucks on.
PSN - xZeDgEx
Is the online community dead on this game already? There are not very many servers out there. Do you guys play regularly? I want to try these new maps I just dropped 13 bucks on.
PSN - xZeDgEx
KZObsessed
Member
BadlyCookedTurkey said:
Thanx! This is a very good point:
^^ and something GG should really consider. My playtime in KZ2 progressed to the point where I would only play 16 player games with Assault banned but recently I've been happily playing 32 pl games and enjoying it! I try and find a game with Assault banned but if I can't find one I'd settle for Assault included and too be honest it's not been too bad over the last few days. 1 or 2 assaults is fine, you just try and avoid them and frantically aim for the head if they come boosting at you firing rockets :lol In a way it's quite exciting
But then there are games when half the other team are using them, and that's when it becomes a real problem. I remember seeing a couple of guys on the first rank being penned into their base by barrages of rockets and thought: "yeah... they're never gonna play again "They should have put a limit on the number of Assaults per team, and not allowed people to swap the boost ability with other classes
Hopefully for KZ3 hey will simply just replace them tho with other classes, would make the game more fun for newer players.But if KZ3 is just KZ2 but with dedicated servers and minimal lag I'll still be in heaven!
KZObsessed
Member
Kittonwy said:I saw u on and I wanted to play but u were done.
I will be away next week so I won't be able to play anything period.
Sorry kitton! Had to get up early today and thought playing past 4am might not be the best idea :lol
ok, I'll play with you when you get back in a week then. Hopefully the second coming of Lince will have occurred by then.
Thrakier said:
Well I still wuv you *tickles*
Lagspike_exe
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FFObsessed said:But if KZ3 is just KZ2 but with dedicated servers and minimal lag I'll still be in heaven!
I won't. Killzone 2 had such a huge potential and only some things need to be changed for it to be a much better experience.
Don't get me wrong, I've played almost 150 hours total of this game, spent A LOT of time on clan matches and I love it to death, but some flaws just need to be fixed in Killzone 3.
zedge said:
most ppl play almost every night (the GAFe regulars). Southern Hills really seem to be the main map in rotation from the 2nd map pack, and sometimes the newest map pack shows up here and there. But the majority of the servers seem to be just the original maps. And there are a lot of servers, just set your search to world wide
TacticalFox88
Banned
KZ3 just needs more features, fixed lag, fixed classed system, and more shit to actually do in MP.
Nizz
Member
Oh man, for a second I thought something horrible had happened. I can just imagine how insane K3 will look.FFObsessed said:GG dev who used to post here. He's gone to a better place now... (making KZ3
Here's my post to Eric Boltjes:
Basically Lag and Assault Class are the two biggest issues with the online for me. What do you think about my idea of two new classes to replace the Assault Class? They were just off the top of my head so I obviously havn't thought in depth about balancing/weapons/abilities and such but just generally, would you guys agree that's a good idea?
icechai said:most ppl play almost every night (the GAFe regulars). Southern Hills really seem to be the main map in rotation from the 2nd map pack, and sometimes the newest map pack shows up here and there. But the majority of the servers seem to be just the original maps. And there are a lot of servers, just set your search to world wide
Thanks.
Is there a clan you can invite me to? Make it easier to join.
Guardian Bob
Member
I played a game tonight (first time in a while) and you can get killed by the medic gun now? That's ridiculous. Killed me three times.
Winterblink
Member
Why not? Thing can start a dead heart, why not stop a beating one?Guardian Bob said:
templeusox
Banned
KZ3? I'd sign for 1080P and 60 FPS.
Rapping Granny
Banned
templeusox said:
No, give me a classless Killzone with matchmaking and a lobby system.
Hello guys, I have got a PS3 a few days ago and naturally I wanted to see what's this Killzone 2 everybody here was raving about.
Turns out I still have to unwrap it.. Need some advice: can you get into multiplayer effectively without first playing it offline? Is voice chat supported / useful online?
Thanks!
Turns out I still have to unwrap it.. Need some advice: can you get into multiplayer effectively without first playing it offline? Is voice chat supported / useful online?
Thanks!
It was packed lastnight. Couldn't even get into a game.zedge said:
Especially the dick brains who continue to put spawn grenades that spawn into walls with backs to the enemy.Kittonwy said:Yes you can and voicechat is supported and is crucial for coordinating objectives and cussing people out.
Kittonwy said:Yes you can and voicechat is supported and is crucial for coordinating objectives and cussing people out.
Thanks Kitten!
I don't know if this is the place to ask but.. Which voice chat device would you suggest? I have a plain vanilla slim ps3 so for the moment I only have 1 wired controller and the console as hardware.
Lagspike_exe
Member
maxmars said:Thanks Kitten!
I don't know if this is the place to ask but.. Which voice chat device would you suggest? I have a plain vanilla slim ps3 so for the moment I only have 1 wired controller and the console as hardware.
Official Sony Playstation 3 Headset.
sleeping_dragon
Banned
is there any future thread on GAF that will beat the page count for this thread? i dont think there will gonna be one, simply because K2 was the most controversial game of any generations. lol
Ken Masters
Banned
I really want to buy this game, I just don't know what the hell is stopping me. Maybe if they drop the price I will be game
KZObsessed
Member
Kittonwy said:Hero Kingz dominated that last match. Still I wish there was a way clan members can join without being put on the other team, although I figured CrushDance got bored of winning and wanted to join the losing side.
That last game was awesome! Was great to play as a clan again. Think I'll save the replay :lol If we stick to larger games (32pl which I've been enjoying a lot recently) there's more chance we'll all be on the same team.
And if we're able to join at the beginning we will be, but in an auto-balanced game if someone joins after the start they can be put on the other team to avoid stacking.
edit: GAFe FTW!
Winterblink
Member
Every weekend I want to get in some serious KZ2 time I end up having to work it. Goddammit
KZObsessed
Member
oh wow. I just realised how KILL1ONAIRE (#1 ranked guy) has the stats he has.
I just watched some of his battle replays. He only plays 32player bodycount matches where nearly everyone on the other team are only on the first few ranks!
He and his top ranked friends go on the other team and just slaughter them. Check it out: http://www.killzone.com/kz/mykillzone.psml?kz_user_id=x_KILL1ONAIRE_x
There a poor guys on the first rank who end up with like 20+ deaths and only 1-2 kills. :lol
He's probably done more damage to KZ2 online than all the rocket spamming and lag put together. Can't believe GG allow this :lol
I just watched some of his battle replays. He only plays 32player bodycount matches where nearly everyone on the other team are only on the first few ranks!
He and his top ranked friends go on the other team and just slaughter them. Check it out: http://www.killzone.com/kz/mykillzone.psml?kz_user_id=x_KILL1ONAIRE_x
There a poor guys on the first rank who end up with like 20+ deaths and only 1-2 kills. :lol
He's probably done more damage to KZ2 online than all the rocket spamming and lag put together. Can't believe GG allow this :lol
Lagspike_exe
Member
FFObsessed said:
Nice life.
I thought it was a shared account or something... Still, this is pathetic as every other way of score boosting.
KZObsessed
Member
Lagspike_exe said:
It's disgraceful really. Playing your first game and having to come up against a team of people who have played the game 1000+ hours. They wouldn't even be able to leave their base. I doubt they'd ever return to the game after a few hours of that.
You'd get more challenge from playing against bots on the lowest level. At least they would know the maps. Pathetic.
BadlyCookedTurkey
Member
:lol :lol
Did you guys think killionaire played like normal people?
He is a joke. He plays assault with pistols only, and gets all his kills boosting around meleeing, or using the M4. We had a killionaire wannabe in our clan (actually a great player, but got booted when people got fed up) and we'd join his game and killionaire would be there doing such stupid shit. Killionaire would boost into the other teams base and just melee them all. He's a complete scrub, and I've no idea how he's still not bored of such nonsense.
Did you guys think killionaire played like normal people?
He is a joke. He plays assault with pistols only, and gets all his kills boosting around meleeing, or using the M4. We had a killionaire wannabe in our clan (actually a great player, but got booted when people got fed up) and we'd join his game and killionaire would be there doing such stupid shit. Killionaire would boost into the other teams base and just melee them all. He's a complete scrub, and I've no idea how he's still not bored of such nonsense.
KZObsessed
Member
BadlyCookedTurkey said::lol :lol
Did you guys think killionaire played like normal people?
He is a joke. He plays assault with pistols only, and gets all his kills boosting around meleeing, or using the M4. We had a killionaire wannabe in our clan (actually a great player, but got booted when people got fed up) and we'd join his game and killionaire would be there doing such stupid shit. Killionaire would boost into the other teams base and just melee them all. He's a complete scrub, and I've no idea how he's still not bored of such nonsense.
Sounds like Cagen! lol lol
Never played in a game with Killionaire, now I'm glad.