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TTP said:
yes, you should be able to destruct them
Lince said:
I wouldn't mind them being as visible as they already are. I do actually want the opposing team to come and attempt to defuse them as that would mean less defenders on the objective. Basically the spawn point will act as a secondary objective. Or a decoy
.Besides, having a spawn point defusable and relatively away from the objective will naturally promote cautious play. It takes more time to reach the objective, hence you want to be as productive as possible once you get there. Run and gun tactics will see you walking and sprinting towards the objective most of the time.
Azzwanker said:
Does what it's supposed to do. Brings back bots but if you use them your game is marked "unranked".
When searching for games now, you have a "RANKED" option to check/uncheck.
You can create unranked games even without bots of course. Like if you want to practice and stuff.
I dunno if unranked games count towards ribbons.
Would be far too easy to do. Just run up and shoot a spawn point and its gone....that seems too easy to do. I think having it that easy would deter people from doing the mail objectives. Would have alot of people running to the spawn points to destroy them and they'd be under constant attack. I just think having it setup where you have to 'defuse' the spawn grenades would work a little better. Having it where you can just run up and shoot it.......TTP said:
Wait, do you mean shoot it once or having it take like a full clip or 2 to destroy? If its the later then thats fine
TTP said:
The aim assist cheat is also fixed (ie. spamming zoom to get a degree of lock-on) - in fact, there is no zoom assist at all now in MP. Previously, when you zoomed near an opponent, your reticule would be moved to be over them - no longer. Still works in SP Campaign, however.
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Yeah one shot to destroy would be too easy. Either disarm or like a turret. I would prefer disarm.mr_nothin said:Would be far too easy to do. Just run up and shoot a spawn point and its gone....that seems too easy to do. I think having it that easy would deter people from doing the mail objectives. Would have alot of people running to the spawn points to destroy them and they'd be under constant attack. I just think having it setup where you have to 'defuse' the spawn grenades would work a little better. Having it where you can just run up and shoot it.......
Wait, do you mean shoot it once or having it take like a full clip or 2 to destroy? If its the later then thats fine
mr_nothin said:Would be far too easy to do. Just run up and shoot a spawn point and its gone....that seems too easy to do. I think having it that easy would deter people from doing the mail objectives. Would have alot of people running to the spawn points to destroy them and they'd be under constant attack. I just think having it setup where you have to 'defuse' the spawn grenades would work a little better. Having it where you can just run up and shoot it.......
Wait, do you mean shoot it once or having it take like a full clip or 2 to destroy? If its the later then thats fine
Well, moving away from the objective to attempt to defuse a spawn point is enough of a risk in the grand scheme of the mission so I don't see that as a problem. Do you really want to leave the S&D objective to go search for spawn points? Of course the more clever the Tactician, the harder is the spawn point to be found and destroyed.
Defusing a spawn point is not really all that paramount from a defender point of view (it's not like you wont get people coming, and there are still squad leaders around not to mention Tacticians ready to drop a new one) so I see most of the defending team sticking to the objective anyway.
As for your second question, any damage can destroy a spawn point. Be it a pistol bullet or a grenade explosion. A cool thing to add is having a just defused spawn point start to emit smoke intermittently. It doesn't stop working right away (you can still spawn at it) but the smoke goes "pof! pof! pof!" for a couple of secs notifying it's about to die. This way it's easier for a Tactician to notice spawn point has been defused and can ready up another one. Same should happen when a spawn point is about to die naturally.
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TTP said:
THAT is a great idea.
TTP said:
I think ANY damage to a spawn point is way too easy. You will have people who only hunt down spawn points all day and succeed most of the time. All they have to do it lob a grenade over in that area where the smoke is coming from and bye bye spawn point. It should have it's own HP.
Either that or make the engineer the "anti-tactician" class and give them a special gun/zapper to nullify the spawn point. I actually think that this might be the way to go. Maybe create a new class altogether and name it the special ops class. The class is the anti tactician and their job is to sneak to the spawn points and destroy the spawn points. They're the only 1's who can do it and they can also repair damaged spawn points (HP based spawn points of course)
I do like the sound of that "pof pof pof" idea though lol. Gives a nice heads up to the tactician class.
mr_nothin said:I think ANY damage to a spawn point is way too easy. You will have people who only hunt down spawn points all day and succeed most of the time. All they have to do it lob a grenade over in that area where the smoke is coming from and bye bye spawn point. It should have it's own HP.
Either that or make the engineer the "anti-tactician" class and give them a special gun/zapper to nullify the spawn point. I actually think that this might be the way to go. Maybe create a new class altogether and name it the special ops class. The class is the anti tactician and their job is to sneak to the spawn points and destroy the spawn points. They're the only 1's who can do it and they can also repair damaged spawn points (HP based spawn points of course)
I do like the sound of that "pof pof pof" idea though lol. Gives a nice heads up to the tactician class.
The whole point of having a defusable spawn point is to avoid chaos at objective. Period.
If people go around looking for spawn points rather than defending/attacking the objective is all good to me.
Besides, do you really want to when a) there are good chances to get killed by those very people that spawn there b) it might be for nothing as Tactician is right there ready to toss a new one after he has killed you c) you lose the match cos opposing team got to the objective while you where looking for spawn points.
I don't really see how making it more complicated would make things that much better.
I don't think this game has huge enough maps for spawn point demands...
It doesn't take that long to go form one point to another. And if u play in squads u don't need spawn points that much.(if they remove spawn ability of tactician, more burden will be on the squad leader cuz he will try to stay alive for spawning his members which is a better idea)
If it had huge maps like in Warhawk yeah spawn points would be necessary but right now all they do is creating chaos in small areas where u have objectives. PPl will always put spawn points near bombs in Search&destroy.
It doesn't take that long to go form one point to another. And if u play in squads u don't need spawn points that much.(if they remove spawn ability of tactician, more burden will be on the squad leader cuz he will try to stay alive for spawning his members which is a better idea)
If it had huge maps like in Warhawk yeah spawn points would be necessary but right now all they do is creating chaos in small areas where u have objectives. PPl will always put spawn points near bombs in Search&destroy.
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TTP said:
If they put a spawnpoint in the middle of a "capture and hold" or next to a "search and destroy" point you dont have too look very long.
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God, i went home for lunch to play a couple of games and after d/l the update it wouldnt let me connect online 
Every time i tried it times out, i hope its back up and running by the time i finish work.
Every time i tried it times out, i hope its back up and running by the time i finish work.I like this idea better, no matter how far or hidden the spawn grenade is, one shot to destroy would be too easy, you won't even have to get close to it to destroy it. One shot from sniper rifle across the map and it's gone!mr_nothin said:Either that or make the engineer the "anti-tactician" class and give them a special gun/zapper to nullify the spawn point. I actually think that this might be the way to go. Maybe create a new class altogether and name it the special ops class. The class is the anti tactician and their job is to sneak to the spawn points and destroy the spawn points. They're the only 1's who can do it and they can also repair damaged spawn points (HP based spawn points of course)
I do like the sound of that "pof pof pof" idea though lol. Gives a nice heads up to the tactician class.
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I dont think bot matches count. I dont think that you get ribbons or stats while playing in unranked games, and it it is only possible to have bots in unranked games.Thrakier said:I need de ribbonZ. Do bot matches count? That would be awesome!
I think that bot matches used to count though, but it was removed in the 1.20 patch i think. Anyone who can confirm this?
JardeL said:
well I was able to play a couple of quick ranked matches this morning as well as one unranked match (two random guys and I versus 8 elite bots) but we all got disconnected and I can't login now... maybe they're updating the servers with the new Clan Tournaments fixes and stuff?
edit: killzone.com isn't available either
Man, they need to turn up the footstep volume in this...so tired of climbing metal stairs that I can hear echoing of the walls, and finding a good spot to shoot from, only to have a guy walk up those same stairs, silently, and execute me.
The only way I could chat with one of my old college buddies last night was to shoot him, and crouch next to him and talk for 8 seconds, and vice versa...
fun factor continues to slide for me....
The only way I could chat with one of my old college buddies last night was to shoot him, and crouch next to him and talk for 8 seconds, and vice versa...
fun factor continues to slide for me....
ilanna said:
I agree.
I suggested this before, requiring a spawn to be built and able to be un-built. They need to give that to the engineer along with repair. And also allow repair gun to "un-repair" friendly and enemy gun emplacements and ammo boxes, as well as enemy spawn points. I hate setting up a nice turret array for a certain game type, then it changes and all of them are uselessly placed. I would love deconstructing them and then rebuilding elsewhere without wasting ammo or grenades and giving away my position on the map by firing like crazy.
It would increase the engineer's worth tenfold. As they could plant a turret to defend the spawn point from being un-built by the enemy.
Also, the tactician should get a "overall map display" of some sort to direct battle. Sort of a semi-general role with whole map oversight to help with spawn placements.
I really think the intermittent smoke at the end of life of a spawn is a fantastic idea.
Also, why is there no ribbon/medal that increase the amount of points for grenade kills? There seems to be one for everything else.
We played a couple of games last night where the top 3 got over 600 points. I made over 200 in 6th both times, but I was working on my sabo and melee ribbons. Nothing more satisfying than walking up as a sabo behind an enemy and whacking them in the back of the head.
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On which map?GodofWine said:
KZObsessed
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So I was thinking about the eventual GAFe versus GAFA match we were planning on having, and I was thinking that we could maybe schedule them on a regular basis when the GAFA clan has settled down and everything is sorted out. We could have them like every weekend whenever is best for everyone. A properly organised GAF game every weekend would be pretty awesome for us all to get together and play properly. Might be a bitch to organise every week but I'm sure me and kittonwy can sort that out.
8 vs 8 would be perfect but we can change weekly depending on how many people know they're gonna turn up. Should be fun! I know GAFe has at least 8 people who would be playing regularly, how many of you GAFA guys would be interested in a game every week?
I'll send you a PM later kittonwy.
8 vs 8 would be perfect but we can change weekly depending on how many people know they're gonna turn up. Should be fun! I know GAFe has at least 8 people who would be playing regularly, how many of you GAFA guys would be interested in a game every week?
I'll send you a PM later kittonwy.
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alr1ghtstart said:
Mine seems opposite, it's actually perfect for my Ambient/Hip hop combination. Killzone 2 multiplayer while listening to Lifestyle Marketing = THE ZONE!
test_account said:
Tharsis Depot mainly, visari as well, but all of them to a degree, a guy shouldn't be able to walk right behind me(on metal grates) without a sound (in surround sound). That irks me.
and regarding my above comment about only being able to talk to a friend last night while we were laying on the ground dying...its simple to say 'switch games / change factions' but having done that dance many times and either a) ending up in a game that only accepts my rank and not theirs or vice versa b) getting in a game and having it fill before they do c) getting in a game and being put on different teams again because there was no way to tell if autobalance was on or not...its honestly frustrating. (I know its not 'just me')
I don't hate the game by any measure, but its not drawing me in anymore, different strokes for different folks I suppose...
There is one.Facism said:
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andycapps said:
Yeah, I agree with this. I am free every night and weekends and would be happy to test my skills against GAFe.
I can't believe this.
I get in another game, get 2 ribbons that I've been trying to get for a while.
Match goes all the way thru, and gets to "mission won!" and we hear confirmation that we did a good job or w/e.
I'm waiting for the "Your Faction Has Won" screen, and it disconnects.
*Host is no longer available*
Man, oh man...
I get in another game, get 2 ribbons that I've been trying to get for a while.
Match goes all the way thru, and gets to "mission won!" and we hear confirmation that we did a good job or w/e.
I'm waiting for the "Your Faction Has Won" screen, and it disconnects.
*Host is no longer available*
Man, oh man...
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