BloodMoney
Banned
Haven't played too much but right away noticed that hip fire is almost completely useless
I'm guessing because of no aim assist but it needs a light buff imo.
get your hands on an smg, they hip fire well.
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Killzone: Shadow Fall |OT| Nothing Stops This Rain
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get your hands on an smg, they hip fire well.
Pretty much this, I think. It's insanely ambitious for a launch title, and really feels like there wasn't enough time to play test and finesse it's various parts, especially the sections that diverge from the core shooting mechanics.
Guess the game is doing well.
http://www.killzone.com/kz3/en_US/b...l-has-launched-european-release-imminent.html
DemonCleaner
Member
thanks much good sir
LiveFromKyoto
Member
That's great to hear, I'd definitely like to see more of this, in a state in which they have all the time they need to perfect it. Right now Shadow Fall is a good game that's almost amazing.
They need to take a cue from Naughty Dog and up their narrative game though. They have what could be a cool universe, but is hampered by hammy storytelling.
NullPointer
Member
Has there been any word about the Horde mode? Should we expect it this year? Any ETAs whatsoever?
Muffdraul
Member
Only 15 tries? Damn dude. Like a boss.
Seriously, I had exactly 40 fucking deaths on that segment.
21 here. I think the most I died on any other segment was 5.
Muffdraul
Member
Yep.
You've got that right, but there could be more games.
I'd buy a game where you get to kill Rico as Echo in a second. Still have not forgiven the fucker.
Uno Venova
Banned
Yeah the beginning of chapter 8 is simply not worth it, the campaign wasn't that great to push on through, will catch the rest on youtube.
Booker Dewitt
Member
So I just finished it, starts off cool gameplay wise, chapter six takes a pretty big downturn by removing any player choice and forcing to do the exact actions the game tells you to, and never really picks up from there. Well, some of chapter 9 was alright, but it isn't much solace after trudging through chapter 8.
And that ending...
And that ending...
Talk about drumming up a conflict that has no effect on the state of the world besides some deaths of characters you don't care about. I mean, they've never established that the world wasn't on the brink of war, so when you spend the game on the brink of war trying to prevent it, and the game ends with the two sides on the brink of war, but slightly closer...big whoop.
Grinchy
Banned
lol I was purposely helping the civilians at first, not knowing there was even a trophy for it. But then I saved the one from killing himself, let the couple rejoice for a moment, then killed his wife in front of him.
Muffdraul
Member
Capping every NPC in that level is disturbingly satisfying. ALL FUCKING HIGGS MUST DIE.
The more time I spend with this game, the more I like it.
It's probably one of my favorite launch titles since Mario World for the SNES. This game looks gorgeous, has great controls and I found the story to be pretty good. I think it's easily the best story if the franchise and I would love a game starring Echo (break from tradition and do 3rd person stealth maybe).
I died a couple of times on that free fall part but I inverted the y axis so it controlled like a plane would and my brain just sorted it all out. I can honestly say there wasn't one segment of that game I did not enjoy.
It's probably one of my favorite launch titles since Mario World for the SNES. This game looks gorgeous, has great controls and I found the story to be pretty good. I think it's easily the best story if the franchise and I would love a game starring Echo (break from tradition and do 3rd person stealth maybe).
I died a couple of times on that free fall part but I inverted the y axis so it controlled like a plane would and my brain just sorted it all out. I can honestly say there wasn't one segment of that game I did not enjoy.
I'll be streaming some in an hour or so, .com/soupstorm. I can't promise good gameplay or commentary, but I can promise decent-ish picture quality and liberal application of shotguns.
You also have to search for the all-caps KILLZONE. That's the channel the PS4 feeds to by default - you know, the less-popular one that doesn't even appear in Twitch's browse list to begin with. I put in a bug report for that just now so hopefully it gets fixed soon. There's a lot more Shadow Fall broadcasters there with a lot fewer viewers - about 150 over 24 streams vs 350 over 5 streams. I'll probably change mine to the cool kids' channel manually.
It's really some of the best gunplay I've experienced in a while, with a solid movement model to back it up. All too rare a combination in shooters.
Grinchy
Banned
Wow, this game is really pissing me off. I restarted The Last Stand, cleared a lot more enemies before the turret part, and then the turret part was still impossible. I restarted again, was chugging along, and the game crashed.
WTF is it with this horribly designed section? Is it just that it's on Hard? Is it this fucking broken on Normal too?
WTF is it with this horribly designed section? Is it just that it's on Hard? Is it this fucking broken on Normal too?
krypt0nian
Banned
Entered my Shadow Pack code successfully but no skins or soundtrack are showing anywhere. Where are addons listed/found?
Is this glitched?
Is this glitched?
I particular enjoyed some sections, but i can see why some wouldn't like it.
Anyway; finished the game yesterday and while i don't think it's a bad game, i think that what's more disappointed is that the game can be really great if it weren't for a horrible way to tell a interesting story (most of time i couldn't get why i were there) and some sections that are particular bad.
There were also some sections were i died way, way to much but i actually liked those changeling sections (
The Last Stand, and where you must resist before fighting the terrorist whom name i forgot
I kinda liked; specially the way Echo whispered "This is for Kellan", making it sound that over anything, she's also doing that for personal reasons
Ok,I must have posted this in the wrong thread before and I can't find it,so I will ask here again.
I am at the start of the awful free fall part in Chapter 7...I managed to fall down quite a bit but at one point,after you hear the lightning,there seems to be no more holes or area to avoid and I just crash on the ground...where do I go near the end...?
I am at the start of the awful free fall part in Chapter 7...I managed to fall down quite a bit but at one point,after you hear the lightning,there seems to be no more holes or area to avoid and I just crash on the ground...where do I go near the end...?
Quick question: I'm downloading the game now from Amazon digital store ($5 free credit to next game!) and was wondering if I can play the story mode in co-op locally with a friend using my vita? That would be awesome if possible..
Failing that, can I play MP using my vita as a second controller/system for a friend to play with?
Failing that, can I play MP using my vita as a second controller/system for a friend to play with?
SPACECADET
Member
that's the spirit.
staticneuron
Member
I actually like the second half of the game in comparison to the first half. I found the starting sections to be a bit meandering and unfocused.
I had no issues at all with chapter 8. I am surprised it was so hard for many.
I had no issues at all with chapter 8. I am surprised it was so hard for many.
super-famicom
Member
Unfortunately, the campaign doesn't have a co-op mode. And there's no local multiplayer, either. There will be an online co-op horde mode soon, available through a season pass.
Aim for the walkways at the bottom, not the bits inbetween (which will kill you).
Nope,I dont see the difference between the walkway and the orange strips or anything,so I have no clue where to go,I just crash...guess I will try and find a Youtube video so I can see it...and I am doing that,why doesn't he land,will try again later.
EDIT: speaking of which,is it the PS4 that was suppose to have this option that someone could get in your game,do this small section so I can keep playing the game...or is it only when Gakai is rolled out(or is it a X1 thing).
Sorry I can't really be of much help, but I'm having the same issue (kind of). I posted this in the ps4 troubleshooting thread:
I'm calling Sony when I get home tonight, maybe you should too.
Anyone else have any insight into this?
Muffdraul
Member
No idea if any of this is relevant to the issues you guys are having--
With the Amazon pre-order DLC code, nothing downloads when you redeem it. But the three OWL skins are unlocked in the game somehow. There was other content, an OST I think, and something else, I forget what... Somewhere I heard that Amazon had acknowledged that something went wrong and promised to fix it.
And I thought Chapter 7's free fall section was awful,now I am at the chapter 8 one...I cant believe they actually agreed to do this,I mean wow,nothing stops this rain my ass,this does...wow,I am still in shock of how awful this is...I would like to know how many people will actually stop playing the single player because of this part,I bet at least 80% of the people will never finish the single player because of this horrid part...wow,did I say how awful this was lol...
I am not a multiplayer kind of guy but I guess I will try that before I snap the disk in half.
I am not a multiplayer kind of guy but I guess I will try that before I snap the disk in half.
WordsintheWater
Member
Beat it on my second try, not sure if you know this or not because they hint didn't pop up till my second try, but push O to break, it helps out so much.
NullPointer
Member
Haha, yeah.
I honestly cannot fathom how that section ended up in the shipping game as-is. They had to know that it would be a kick in the nuts to everybody who played it.
Few notes about the freefall stuff.
- It's not fun at all.
- The controls aren't as bad as the hype, it's really just the setup. They should've set it up as if you were controlling a plane, or even had you on some sort of plane/hovercraft type thing.
- I think most people hate it as much as they do because they're struggling. Again it's a stupid part, but it's short.
There were a few strange parts like this in the game that really do hinder the experience. It's too bad, because on my hard playthrough once I had fully grasped the owl and the sonar (not sure what it's called), it was so great. It's only hard if you don't utilize these things properly, which I actually liked. KZ2's final section, was a lot of chance and stupidly hard, where if you knew what you were doing, this one wasn't bad at all, and your skill really dictated the difficulty.
edit- also what the hell at those stupid raft things... why doesn't he just have some sort of parachute? I mean it's the future right? Really stupid design lol. I had a glitch where he tossed it, but the raft never sprung... ended up just smashing into the ground haha.
- It's not fun at all.
- The controls aren't as bad as the hype, it's really just the setup. They should've set it up as if you were controlling a plane, or even had you on some sort of plane/hovercraft type thing.
- I think most people hate it as much as they do because they're struggling. Again it's a stupid part, but it's short.
There were a few strange parts like this in the game that really do hinder the experience. It's too bad, because on my hard playthrough once I had fully grasped the owl and the sonar (not sure what it's called), it was so great. It's only hard if you don't utilize these things properly, which I actually liked. KZ2's final section, was a lot of chance and stupidly hard, where if you knew what you were doing, this one wasn't bad at all, and your skill really dictated the difficulty.
edit- also what the hell at those stupid raft things... why doesn't he just have some sort of parachute? I mean it's the future right? Really stupid design lol. I had a glitch where he tossed it, but the raft never sprung... ended up just smashing into the ground haha.
infiniteheteroskdasticity
Member
Completely agree about the freefall stuff. It's shocking that somebody, somewhere thought that was a good idea. In what universe can somebody do that and survive? You'd be dead before you even got a chance to brake. It's a shame because those two freefall sections detract from what is otherwise a rock solid SP campaign. Sure, the story is a little cheesy at times but the atmosphere and design kept things interesting. Chapters 4-6 are fantastic and when you're escaping the helghan side of the city just as you started thinking that this was one of the best FPS campaigns in a long time you're forced to do that freefall section. I can see why a time pressed reviewer would be negatively inclined at that point. GG should patch those sections to be non interactive cutscenes instead.
WeAreStarStuff
Member
This happened to me; I was really confused.
NullPointer
Member
Yeah, and as expected my second playthrough feels very different. Everything plays out different when you're more comfortable with all of your tactical options. You notice more avenues for attack, can respond better to getting overwhelmed, and can just, in general, pull off more cool stuff.
I find myself scouting more with the drone in attack mode, either pushing into areas in front of me, or keeping it positioned to guard my flank. And I still have yet to fully incorporate adrenaline and its down-the-sights-slow-mo into my offensive toolkit. Its only there for revives or as an oh shit button, but I really want to start using it to kick some quality ass, especially for those encounters where you're overwhelmed.
There's a lot of stuff to experiment with still, which is a plus in my book.
Well that's what I like about it, is that it actually changes the difficulty. Sometimes these type of features are gimmicky or tacked on, but the game was clearly built around your tactical options.
I just dont understand exactly what I am suppose to do with the left and right analog...at some point I am looking up in the air at dark clouds...do I move the right analog to bring my view down while always pressing up on the left analog to get the pitch...the O button to apparently slowdown does nothing at all to help me,I dont know where I am going and I am dying because I am hitting stuff that I can't see,how the fuck am I suppose to avoid it if I can't see it...
Eppy Thatcher
God's had his chance.
Just finished that freefall section into the crumbling cityscape this morning - got all the way to where Echo lets you use her binocs for a second before I had to save and leave...
So .. I just have to say ... there are multiple points in this campaign that just stops their momentum dead in it's tracks. I never had anything like this with Kz2 or 3. Like.. over and over and over again one mistake deaths that completely pull me out of my immersion and fun. And on your way out of the Helgan side of the city... I spent fucking 45 minutes murdering wave after wave after wave after wave of people before I realized that I needed the petricite cell inside the array to spawn ATACS which make the entire fight basically a duck shoot.
Quite a few times where - if i'm in a hurry or a little tired or not paying 100% perfect attention I end up lost or turned around. Level design goes from epic and open and perfect to ridiculously convoluted and confusing.
Gunplay is fantastic and the controls feel much improved with the DS but why in the FUCK do i need to drop my heavy weapon to throw a grenade? I don't know how many times i tossed a fucking emp grenade and then tried to take down a walker with my silenced pistol... uhg..
So many things done right AND wrong in this thing. I've loved KZ since the first one on PS2 but... enthusiasm has been quelled.
I will say tho that the multiplayer is spot on and a ton of fun. Will probably go through the campaign one more time on hard for some trophies and such and then put it away completely for multiplayer. Echo's hot tho ..
So .. I just have to say ... there are multiple points in this campaign that just stops their momentum dead in it's tracks. I never had anything like this with Kz2 or 3. Like.. over and over and over again one mistake deaths that completely pull me out of my immersion and fun. And on your way out of the Helgan side of the city... I spent fucking 45 minutes murdering wave after wave after wave after wave of people before I realized that I needed the petricite cell inside the array to spawn ATACS which make the entire fight basically a duck shoot.
Quite a few times where - if i'm in a hurry or a little tired or not paying 100% perfect attention I end up lost or turned around. Level design goes from epic and open and perfect to ridiculously convoluted and confusing.
Gunplay is fantastic and the controls feel much improved with the DS but why in the FUCK do i need to drop my heavy weapon to throw a grenade? I don't know how many times i tossed a fucking emp grenade and then tried to take down a walker with my silenced pistol... uhg..
So many things done right AND wrong in this thing. I've loved KZ since the first one on PS2 but... enthusiasm has been quelled.
I will say tho that the multiplayer is spot on and a ton of fun. Will probably go through the campaign one more time on hard for some trophies and such and then put it away completely for multiplayer. Echo's hot tho ..
BattleMonkey
Member
Echo tells you exactly what to do in that part and the objective markers point both to the petricite container and where you have to put it in.
schwabdizzle
Banned
Multiplayer is awesome. It impresses me that people use teamwork without saying a word.