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Kobe Bryant slinging homophobic slur during nationally televised NBA game
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Ollie Pooch
In a perfect world, we'd all be homersexual
Oh, yup. I figured he meant something like that but wasn't sure.Snuggler said:
faggot not only asserts that you are a homosexual, it also pushes the idea that you are weak, and in general unmanly
and what straight self-conscious teenager wants to be told he is homosexual, unmanly, weak and feminine in front of his peers?
it still means you are a homosexual, but I do think its evolved with other negative connotations over the years
my 2 cents anyways
and what straight self-conscious teenager wants to be told he is homosexual, unmanly, weak and feminine in front of his peers?
it still means you are a homosexual, but I do think its evolved with other negative connotations over the years
my 2 cents anyways
In my experience, with high school, life beyond and Xbox Live, it's typically just a word used to put someone down, much like idiot, loser and noob. It's usually not a jab at someone's sexuality, since it's often unrelated to their situation. It's just an insult. So in this case, it's pretty clear that Kobe wasn't so much trying to insult someone's sexuality as he was letting juvenile words slip out. But I guess this thread is probably long past that.
Doesn't change the fact that it's a shameful word to use, and that it pretty much makes the user look like a seriously backwards motherfucker. I still hear people say it fairly often, often in the same way as Kobe used it, but it's usually a good sign that the person isn't really worth listening to. I rarely have come across a person who (unironically) uses the word without being a ignorant fool.
Doesn't change the fact that it's a shameful word to use, and that it pretty much makes the user look like a seriously backwards motherfucker. I still hear people say it fairly often, often in the same way as Kobe used it, but it's usually a good sign that the person isn't really worth listening to. I rarely have come across a person who (unironically) uses the word without being a ignorant fool.
ZephyrFate said:
Lame referenced people unable to walk or difficulty; now means unfavorable
Dumb referenced people who were unable to speak; now means lack of intelligence (pejoratively).
Spaz referenced the spastic nature of people with Cerebral Palsy; now means clumsy or overly excited
Freak always negatively referenced people with genetic mutations and now more generally means something unnatural.
Whether they were slurs or simply references makes no difference. They were used to identify people and now are used as insults or negative language.
"Gay" isn't a slur but you still have a problem when people use THAT to mean "stupid or dumb", right?
EricHasNoPull
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ohhthegore
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Kentpaul said:
I'm sure he's devistated by this
Doncamatic
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umop_3pisdn said:
Kinitari said:
These two know what they're talking about.
Gaborn said:
I had no idea what smear the queer meant, urban dictionaried it ... wow.
spindashing
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Okay. Can you guys just stop being faggots and niggers and end this thread?
It's a never ending spiral of pointless debate. Neither side wants to give in. I commend a few of you for dropping valid points, but at this point it's ridiculous.
It's a never ending spiral of pointless debate. Neither side wants to give in. I commend a few of you for dropping valid points, but at this point it's ridiculous.
Jenga said:
The problem is that the REASON it has evolved the "other negative connotations" is because they were (and in many cases still ARE) stereotypically associated with gay men. Gay men are perceived by some people to be "unmanly, weak and feminine" which is CERTAINLY nowhere near universally true.
CrocMother
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I think the percentage of people using the word faggot as a derogatory slur towards homosexuals decreases with each age group. That being said, I don't foresee the word being used any less in the coming years.
The result? See relevant South Park episode
The result? See relevant South Park episode
MIMIC said:
You make this asinine "language changed!" argument as though the mere fact that faggot is used both as a slur and a general insult (because of its use as a slur) means, according to you, that A) it has no longer has anything to do with the slur (which is bullshit, and nothing more than barely-plausible deniability for bigots, B) that instead of calling bullshit every time someone decides to use faggot, we should just get used to it.
Why do you have such a vested interest in getting us to accept faggot as an acceptable part of people's vocabulary? The only reason I can think of is that it's an integral part of your vocabulary. So if that's not it, what is it?
Count Dookkake
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ndiicm said:
lol
No.
tfur
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ndiicm said:
Yes, without artificial methods and donor genetic content.
It's also sad, that a 1 person in a gay couple is left out of the genetic mix of reproduction, even with artificial means.
I think the world is okay though, there are enough (too many) people reproducing naturally.
Count Dookkake
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tfur said:
Wrong.
Plenty of gay people have had babies the "natural" way.
spindashing
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There's an actual Gay Island...Gamer98 said:
PhoenixDark
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The "language changes" argument is valid - phrases do change in meaning, often. Nigger/nigga is a good example. But MIMIC, a white person saying nigger or nigga is still out of bounds regardless of changes in language, correct? Likewise a straight person saying "fag/faggot" is going to be out of bounds. I don't see why that's a hard concept to grasp.
Reminds me of white people complaining they can't say the n word.
Reminds me of white people complaining they can't say the n word.
PhoenixDark
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Gamer98 said:
Personally I've always joked with friends/family (to their dismay) that white people should simply take the word back en masse. Just every white person everywhere, on the news to at church to at work etc so the backlash from Sharpton and Jackson becomes irrelevant.
Count Dookkake
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PhoenixDark said:
Why in church of all places?
Pathetic Basement Virgin
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PhoenixDark said:
White people say nigga all the time. The only people that get pissed off about is are black guys you'd describe as niggas.
At least where I live it's that way.
Its not illegal to say the N word. But if everyone says it how will black people know who the frendlies are among the white peeps?
Slavery really wasn't that long ago. Maybe in 800 more years when everyone is allowed a fair education and equal opportunities. It will be a big joke. People will sit around together and joke about how dumb their ancestors were. Will joke about the growing pains of human societies.
Maybe...?
Slavery really wasn't that long ago. Maybe in 800 more years when everyone is allowed a fair education and equal opportunities. It will be a big joke. People will sit around together and joke about how dumb their ancestors were. Will joke about the growing pains of human societies.
Maybe...?
PhoenixDark
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supabrett said:
Dunno where you're from, but around here a white person saying nigga is an invitation to a beat down. I'm not defending violence, but that's what would happen.
Count Dookkake
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ZephyrFate
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I'm just waiting for you to get kicked off of NeoGAF.Gamer98 said:
ZephyrFate
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On the other hand, we could just put you on Gay Island to be molested by hordes of horny men.Gamer98 said:
Mercury Fred
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lol at all the people crying that this thread is still going.
spindashing
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The Gay Keeper, holy shit. :lol
PhoenixDark
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Gamer98 said:
Sounds like the ending of Lost
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