Mownoc
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Sony set the price of sly at $10. Tomb Raider is $20 and it is not a title owned by Sony so you can't blame them for that price.
Lance McDonald: PS4/5 Emulated Tomb Raider Legend Runs at 480p/30 FPS - $20
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tommib
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If you're paying the 33% price then that means you get the game for free with the subscription.
PS+ price hike has nothing to do with the price of Legend. Sony is not pricing the titles. But they are offering the most basic emulation possible. And for that you can for sure rip their head off.
Mr Hyde
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I need to check it out. That GIF is hilarious.
Bojji
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It's not free when you had to pay for ps+.
delfrickintree
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I hope you love the N word like I do
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Their 'new' emulator is kinda wonky.
Sly 3 runs 10% faster than its actual speed on PS4 making everything become out of sync.
Sly 3 runs 10% faster than its actual speed on PS4 making everything become out of sync.
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Killer8
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This is the issue. PCSX2, for as good as it is, is rife with small visual errors. I'd like to see a shoot out comparison of Sony's new emulator versus PCSX2 to see which actually delivers better accuracy. It's easy to say "why can't it just be 4K", but visual effect are fickle and can just completely break down once out of the constraints of 480p. This was exactly the issue that the Metal Gear Solid Master Collection faced when people were complaining about it only being 720p. Mods came out to unlock the res to 4K but it was obvious that doing so broke a bunch of the post-processing (even more than the HD Collection already did when Bluepoint ported from PS2). It's not dissimilar to how PCSX2 does the same to many games at higher res. Games like Sly and Dragon Quest get wonky cel-shading lines, while depth of field in FFXII and the neon lights in Yakuza often don't line up properly. Developers translating the old stuff to new hardware are in an unwinnable scenario really - either they're slated for the res not being high enough, or they deliver that and are slated for a lack of accuracy.
Skifi28
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dotnotbot
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Clear indication no one has throughly tested this. This iconic boss fight is the moment should be tested first if they were checking for emulation accuracy, I believe even HD remastered version had some trouble with it.
Between this and things like missing trophy images it's clear this release was rushed.
Previous PS1/PSP releases also had some issues with trophies not popping (either for everyone or only for players from certain regions) or games freezing in specific moments, Sony decided to save money on testing these properly and treat customers as beta testers instead.
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Kerotan
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Already paid it for other games and got it very cheap anyway. This is a bonus.
Ronin_7
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No, Sly is improved.
TR is straight Ps2 version.
Update: Star Wars also has improvements and yes i have a Ps2 with me.
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Kokoloko85
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This is Sony, we're lucky to see PS2 games at this point after being promised to get them since PS4 gen. Should they do more yes, do I expect more.. lol no.
They act like they have the budget of dudes in a basement, so Im not expecting anything different atm. Add the games then work on making them look better/features etc.
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Kokoloko85
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Logic alot of the times flies past Sony
Dr.brain64
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Chrystal dynamics been greedy af
Kokoloko85
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adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
For the price? Sure.
But the emulator is Sony's, or at least commissioned by them, it should be doing better than 480p at least.
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Kokoloko85
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They should just buy PCSX2
At least there own 1st party game is 9.99 and Star Wars is 5.99
NuclearDiarrhea
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Sony can't even do simple PS1 & PS2 emulation without fucking up. Just imagine how bad PS3 emulation will be if they ever get around to it.
dotnotbot
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TGO
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adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Sly looks better than the PS2 BC on PS3 but clearly a step down from the PS3 remaster.
TR looks pretty blurry too, even with the 'enhancements = on'.
LostDonkey
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Wallet Raider
TGO
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Are they saying it's supposed to be like this.Sly looks better than the PS2 BC on PS3 but clearly a step down from the PS3 remaster.
TR looks pretty blurry too, even with the 'enhancements = on'.
It can't be, not even 720p
I fucking renewed my Premium because I renewed my faith that something good was gonna come out of this and here we are yet again.
His face is clearer then the fucking game
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adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
The guy in the video isn't a pixel counter, in fact I've never seen any of his videos before so I don't know lol. But he keeps saying that it looks fine to him. Looks blurry as all hell to me, but I guess he doesn't mind it.
He also says that Sly looks equivalent to the PS3 remaster version in terms of resolution to him, which, I don't see how he can say that.
It's better than the PS2 original on PS3 BC but the HD Remaster is clearly better.
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TGO
Hype Train conductor. Works harder than it steams.
I mean they don't look bad for 480p blown up to 4k
If that what there goal was, but it would be better if it output at 480p and let the TV do the Upscaling.
This is outputting at 4k with a 480p render
This makes zero sense.
In fact I'm sure DF said when talking about 8k stuff that it makes no sense to have even 4k render output at 8k because it still uses resources to do a job the TV could do better.
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DryvBy
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I'm honestly fine with that stuff if they managed to add trophies and streaming, which they did. I wish Xbox did the same with everything. Just give me those classics with achievements, some streaming stuff like Twitch, and I'm basically set.
Everyone complaining about blurry these days and 99% of the games coming out are "retro ps1/n64" 3D games or SNES clones. lol
Everyone complaining about blurry these days and 99% of the games coming out are "retro ps1/n64" 3D games or SNES clones. lol
TGO
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This is the problem
Ironically it missing from the Tomb Raider game....
Although when it was first reported on the PSN backend it did say the same.
But I'd even say this is a lay for Sly
TGO
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Did they stealth update it today or something
Either way after booting up the PS3 version it does actually look better then that.
That version is blurry as fuck with some strange boxy rendering going on.
Maybe it actually the games engine, it was always blurry
Either way after booting up the PS3 version it does actually look better then that.
That version is blurry as fuck with some strange boxy rendering going on.
Maybe it actually the games engine, it was always blurry
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cinnamonandgravy
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nailed it
Clear
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Got to be honest, I do roll my eyes a bit when people moan about resolution and frame-rate on old emulated games.
Do they actually like old games, or just fapping to how much better things look at 4k and 60fps?
I thought the basic appeal wasn't the tech but the nostalgia!
Do they actually like old games, or just fapping to how much better things look at 4k and 60fps?
I thought the basic appeal wasn't the tech but the nostalgia!
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
dotnotbot
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Maybe it's bugged and only works after restarting or something
DryvBy
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No, I tried it last night. I tested Star Wars Clone Wars which I have on Xbox OG and it looked like a big improvement to me without that emulation UI glitchy crap I usually get. I never played Legend so I'm loading it on PC now for everyone to compare.
This is 1920x1080 on the PC version. Egad, quit complaining, PlayStation gamers!
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TGO
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That's apparently is just for the Rewind features.
Don't get me wrong the game isn't as clean as I would like and it goes from okay to blurry depending on the scene and distance of the character
But it does look better then the PS3 version minus the menus.
Menu's are much clearer on the PS3 version though.
I think it just needs to be a bit higher in resolution.
DryvBy
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You're comparing a "remaster" to an emulated PS2 copy. Check my screen above. Thats the PC version without all the "remaster" stuff added to it. The PS2 didn't have some of the stuff you're complaining about.
This is like complaining that the Resident Evil 1 on Gamecube looks way better on a PS1 Resident Evil emulated on the PS5.
TGO
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You missed heard me
I said it looks "better" then the Remaster
And so does your PC version.
Like I said the game doesn't look that bad, could do with being higher resolution and maybe it the rendering process of the original that causes the blurriness
But it actually better then the PS3 version
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DryvBy
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I don't know why I quoted you to say that really. Yeah, the PC version is atrocious so the original Tweet needs to understand that to say the PC version is $1 and this is more is a joke. The PC version is missing complete textures lolYou missed heard me
I said it looks "better" then the Remaster
And so does your PC version.
Like I said the game doesn't look that bad, could do with being higher resolution and maybe it the rendering process of the original that causes the blurriness
But it actually better then the PS3 version
rodrigolfp
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Something is wrong. It's stretched.No, I tried it last night. I tested Star Wars Clone Wars which I have on Xbox OG and it looked like a big improvement to me without that emulation UI glitchy crap I usually get. I never played Legend so I'm loading it on PC now for everyone to compare.
This is 1920x1080 on the PC version. Egad, quit complaining, PlayStation gamers!