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[Edwardo]

Shiv does even more damage versus minions. It's specialized further into being the bursty clearing tool.

Nice buff to yas.

Also I wonder how this will effect people like yas and jayce and other ad people.

Jayce?

 

[Wolf Akela]

Pre season is always best season

 

[BreezyLimbo]

This games gonna be fucking madness in a few weeks/months

Yes

Break it all down

Do it

Fuck the whiners who disagree with the changes

 

[jerd]

Pre season is always best season

rip 2-1-2 quadra targons

 

[Mostmanlyman]

Jayce?

Yeah jayce, he usually build all of those items. Last whisper, IE, blood thirster stuff like that.

 

[Edwardo]

Yeah jayce, he usually build all of those items. Last whisper, IE, blood thirster stuff like that.

Thought u were talking about shiv lol

 

[Ghost is Bad]

what the item changes really are: a buff to kalista's late game.

 

[Dreams-Visions]

Adc itemization

Am excite.

Stronger Essence Reaver is making my inner Jayce cry with excitement, as is the Giant Slayer. Maybe Jayce won't be helpless ultra late game against a team of tanks.

 

[Stone Ocean]

Death's Dance sounds like Zed's ult. I'm intrigued

 

[idlewild_]

Trying to rush ER as Ezreal is going to be super rough without mana pots, hope they have some changes lined up for him.

 

[Ghost is Bad]

nah just take tear trinity er ie.

 

[Quonny]

It's the most, wonderful time, of the yeeeear.

 

[idlewild_]

I always hated the tear builds as Ez since it never fit my playstyle. Hope they improve on that space so we can choose to go ER first.

 

[kenbo]

Thunderlord's Decree
Your 3rd attack or spell on an enemy champion shocks the area around them, dealing 10 damage per level plus 20% of your Bonus Attack Damage and 10% of your Ability Power as Magic damage to enemies in the area (30 second cooldown).

Example of a keystone

They seem pretty strong and impactful!

 

[dimb]

Will they just give full mastery access to players of all summoner levels?

 

[zkylon]

Maybe she could be another ball user like Syndra and Ori. I remember reading that Syndra and DotA's Earth Spirit came from the same concept from before PenDragon came over to Riot, maybe they'll be reusing some of the other ideas they had.

i wish

i love balls

 

[Nekofrog]

Pre season is always best season

pre-season 4 Taric, still fond memories of 1v5ing and still killing multiple people before going down.

the last time taric was ever good, and they stopped that shit quick

 

[Mostmanlyman]

Thunderlord's Decree
Your 3rd attack or spell on an enemy champion shocks the area around them, dealing 10 damage per level plus 20% of your Bonus Attack Damage and 10% of your Ability Power as Magic damage to enemies in the area (30 second cooldown).

Example of a keystone

They seem pretty strong and impactful!

Wow that is very strong, hopefully you don't have to buy them like runes.

 

[Nekofrog]

might sound dumb but im going to get a statik shiv after triforce on irelia for easier gap closing Q minion resets to test it out

 

[Wolf Akela]

pre-season 4 Taric, still fond memories of 1v5ing and still killing multiple people before going down.

the last time taric was ever good, and they stopped that shit quick

http://youtu.be/nWgmOn7X8oE

Never forget. :'(

 

[Ghost is Bad]

i wish

i love balls

~_~

 

[kenbo]

Will they just give full mastery access to players of all summoner levels?

I don't think they have an alternative to the leveling experience ready
You will probably gain 1 mastery per 3 levels for a total of 10 or something

Wow that is very strong, hopefully you don't have to buy them like runes.

Doubt it

 

[Zynx]

Thunderlord's Decree
Your 3rd attack or spell on an enemy champion shocks the area around them, dealing 10 damage per level plus 20% of your Bonus Attack Damage and 10% of your Ability Power as Magic damage to enemies in the area (30 second cooldown).

Example of a keystone

They seem pretty strong and impactful!

You get a 3-hit passive. No, you get a 3-hit passive. Everyone gets a 3-hit passive!

 

[zkylon]

any mentions of tp nerfs

i would like playing league of legends

 

[dimb]

I don't think they have an alternative to the leveling experience ready
You will probably gain 1 mastery per 3 levels for a total of 10 or something

My only thought is to unlock everything. If masteries are powerful it'd be a bummer to play against people that have them when you're lacking them.

 

[kenbo]

My only thought is to unlock everything. If masteries are powerful it'd be a bummer to play against people that have them when you're lacking them.

That's a good point but unfortunately I don't see Riot giving people the full unlock on masteries

They don't care about the level 19 vs level 20 with tier 3 runes interaction so I can only assume the "leveling up" experience is more important to them than a balanced leveling experience

They probably will need to come up with an alternative level up mechanic first

 

[drawkcaB]

Managed to not play for like, 3 or so weeks and then wham, preseason shit. Can I resist? Maybe...

And there's no good reason to keep masteries unlocked. Not saying Riot will do away with pairing masteries to levels, but there's really no reason to do it.

 

[subtles]

I'm guessing the EssenceR. change will bring forth crit Jayce? Hnngh

 

[Hemi-PoweredDrone]

I'm guessing the EssenceR. change will bring forth crit Jayce? Hnngh

I'm guessing the new Death's Dance item might also be good on him.

Yes, there will be a lot of cross talk. Death's Dance is pretty awesome on Kha'zix as a physical damage vamp item.

I can't wait until we get numbers for all this stuff.

 

[idlewild_]

Cool, a physical vamp item finally. Wonder how strong it will be on certain champs (e.g. Talon)

 

[Ambition]

That Vayne nerf

 

[Mostmanlyman]

That Vayne nerf

What nerf?

 

[subtles]

that face :loool

 

[Hemi-PoweredDrone]

If ER isn't bought over IE on who we made it for, then we'll adjust ER up.

Currently it's actually been very scary in testing. Essence Reaver now scales up its cooldown reduction with other items.\

For example...
Essence Reaver + Zeal = +30% Cooldown

We want Essence Reaver to be your definitive Marksman caster item.

TriForce-ER Corki, Lucian, and Ez sounds like it'll be bananas.

"Tier 2 support item + Sightstone = an upgraded Sightstone with upgraded stats from both component items.

E.g. Frost Fang + Sightstone combine into 'Eye of the Watchers' which has the Sightstone ward active, the Tribute passive and gives Health/AP/GP10/Mana Regen."

So now upgrading to Frost Fang will actually be useful.

"Strength of Ages

Killing a Siege Minion or large monsters increases maximum health by 20 and 8 respectively, up to 250 health. After reaching 250 bonus health, heal for 100 health when a nearby siege minion dies.""

Sion will stack health even faster now.

Firecannon DOES work on all champions, but it's a percentage increase (to a cap). (Their animations still make sense, basically).

Range increase works on all champs, this could be interesting for some melee autoattackers like Udyr or Xin.

What nerf?

Vayne

Change Goals
Silver Bolts is about expected time to kill on all targets (not squishy bursting), and Vayne's path to success needs to come through Silver Bolts.
Base Stats
AD/lvl reduced 2.66 >>> 1.66
W - Silver Bolts
Flat Damage removed
Percent Health Damage increased 4/5/6/7/8% >>> 6/7.5/9/10.5/12%
Minimum damage introduced at 40/60/80/100/120 flat damage

I think it's a net buff to her late game. And the minimum damage will make up for the loss of the flat damage.

I'm sorry about the huge post a lot of shit is going on and I'm super hype.

 

[PhillipCostigan]

All these changes

And we haven't even announced the new features yet.

 

[Nekofrog]

just as a cursory glance, it seems like there is too much hidden power in some of these things that would make actual games confusing sometimes

 

[subtles]

Costy, please have an ambulance on standby when you roll them out.

 

[Peanut Butter]

All these changes

And we haven't even announced the new features yet.

Is one of those features being able to leave games w/o a penalty if someone picks Yasuo?

 

[Nekofrog]

Is one of those features being able to leave games w/o a penalty if someone picks Yasuo?

plsplsplsplsplsplsplsplsplsplsplsplsplsplsplsplsplsplsplsplspls

 

[dimb]

Would not be surprised to see a client update.

 

[kenbo]

Is one of those features being able to leave games w/o a penalty if someone picks Yasuo?

plsplsplsplsplsplsplsplsplsplsplsplsplsplsplsplsplsplsplsplspls

you guys are memeing so hard its disturbing

Would not be surprised to see a client update.

I'd rather not set myself up for disappointment

 

[Quonny]

such preseason. many change. much wow

 

[Nev]

You mean there won't be a fixed, go-to path for ADCs? That itemization won't be based on automated preset decisions anymore? I don't believe it.

 

[kenbo]

You mean there won't be a fixed, go-to path for ADCs? That itemization won't be based on automated preset decisions anymore? I don't believe it.

maybe it will encourage you to be a better person

 

[subtles]

So sneaky.

 

[Ghost is Bad]

dude i'd pay you 10000000 dollars for a feature that bans players who pick yasuo in ranked.

 

[PhillipCostigan]

There is no such feature.

Though the new champion select experience might aid your ability to ban the champion in a way.

 

[Nekofrog]

who needs to ban it

just announce at the get go from champ select that if anyone locks in yasuo you're going to troll.

 

[Hemi-PoweredDrone]

There is no such feature.

Though the new champion select experience might aid your ability to ban the champion in a way.

What, something like each person gets a ban? I've seen it suggested a lot.

 

[Quonny]

If Costy were a stripper he'd be a billionaire. The ultimate tease.