Stone Ocean
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Riot will just turn back time and nerf the ADCs before they are top tier!
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Peanut Butter
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They should remove the item and make it a Summoner Spell.
Ghost is Bad
Banned
zzzzz solo laners and junglers
i think they're better than before, top laners feel like the lost a bit of power
that would be a bad idea -__-
Peanut Butter
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I don't think it would be that bad. Brief invulnerability kind of falls in line with the effects of the other popular Summoner Spells.
Vayne and Quinn are top tier.
Lucian and MF are a tier below. They become top tier if you stomp your lane (which isn't hard to do with these two champs). Nothing you can do about champs who are 3 shotting you.
Kalista is still the same.
Ezreal is good if you know what the fuck you're doing and what the fuck you're building. (Essence Reaver, Triforce for hard carrying)
Draven is meh but can work.
Twitch can be fun for gimps and can destroy games if you know how to push/control your waves and roam.
Everything else is in a "Why would you even consider playing them unless you main them" tier.
Lucian and MF are a tier below. They become top tier if you stomp your lane (which isn't hard to do with these two champs). Nothing you can do about champs who are 3 shotting you.
Kalista is still the same.
Ezreal is good if you know what the fuck you're doing and what the fuck you're building. (Essence Reaver, Triforce for hard carrying)
Draven is meh but can work.
Twitch can be fun for gimps and can destroy games if you know how to push/control your waves and roam.
Everything else is in a "Why would you even consider playing them unless you main them" tier.
Manamune still good tho.
imagine what it would do to champions with delayed damage like zed, karthus or fizz
or like how broken that could be on some bruisers/tanks
ezreal feels kind of op from playing against him mid
he also seems like twice as annoying
Nearly every ez I've seen has been rushing essence reaver and reking games.
Stone Ocean
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Ez is really fucking strong right now
Real talk now though - I doubt Riot will buff LDR a lot, if at anything at all.
Mathematically, LDR should match or even beat the old LW on tanky targets - so the whole MUNDO RAMMUS MALPHITE party has be due to something else
(hint - the masteries)
THE MATH:
using 100/(100+baseAR+bonusAR) to calculate damage taken%
giantslayer effect is multiplicative e.g. damage*(1+giantslayer)
TAKEAWAYs:
ASSUMING GIANTSLAYER/LDR IS AT MAX VALUE
60base armor occurs around lvl9
100base armor occurs around lvl18
-The new base LW is pretty poop when they have low bonus armor (duh)
-Buy Giant Slayer if they have less than ~50 bonus armor
-LDR is better than the old LW after your target has around 1 armor item
fracas
take this url:
https://i.imgur.com/jB6SAmb.png
innocent graph right?
delete the lower case b at the end and see where it takes you
"^*Magiicc^*'
Ps. Do not do the above if you are at work
take this url:
https://i.imgur.com/jB6SAmb.png
innocent graph right?
delete the lower case b at the end and see where it takes you
"^*Magiicc^*'
Ps. Do not do the above if you are at work
I mean, you can always go Tear + ER.
Ghost is Bad
Banned
why tho
Stone Ocean
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I have no idea of what that those giant slayer graphs mean and how they interact with the LW one.Real talk now though - I doubt Riot will buff LDR a lot, if at anything at all.
Mathematically, LDR should match or even beat the old LW on tanky targets - so the whole MUNDO RAMMUS MALPHITE party has be due to something else
(hint - the masteries)
THE MATH:
using 100/(100+baseAR+bonusAR) to calculate damage taken%
giantslayer effect is multiplicative e.g. damage*(1+giantslayer)
TAKEAWAYs:
ASSUMING GIANTSLAYER/LDR IS AT MAX VALUE
60base armor occurs around lvl9
100base armor occurs around lvl18
-The new base LW is pretty poop when they have low bonus armor (duh)
-Buy Giant Slayer if they have less than ~50 bonus armor
-LDR is better than the old LW after your target has around 1 armor item
Ghost is Bad
Banned
tldr
higher graph bad lower graph good
higher graph bad lower graph good
Ghost is Bad
Banned
no stones just dumd
Mostmanlyman
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Lol those Santa hats look great on threash.
Fuck I need to make mine transparent.
Stone Ocean
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I like rebbit's math better because it assumes I'm stoopid
I know Bond of Stone is the issue but if that thing is gonna stick - free %DR for tanks why rito - then either armor or armor pen need to change. Armor pen is better because you don't fuck with people that have nothing to do with this. Increasing Ludovico's and Reminder's % bonus pen to 60 would do the trick.
I know Bond of Stone is the issue but if that thing is gonna stick - free %DR for tanks why rito - then either armor or armor pen need to change. Armor pen is better because you don't fuck with people that have nothing to do with this. Increasing Ludovico's and Reminder's % bonus pen to 60 would do the trick.
having bonus pen to a ridiculously high number will make armor feel terrible to build. May as well build 4 warmogs 1 randuins and a ninja tabi at that point
which is bad
better off giving carries better damage options as a mastery, especially with fervor getting nerfed
grasp of undying is pretty ridiculous too.
Mortal reminder is just plain poop though. Just getting GW isnt enough to offset the 15% damage bonus.
which is bad
better off giving carries better damage options as a mastery, especially with fervor getting nerfed
grasp of undying is pretty ridiculous too.
Mortal reminder is just plain poop though. Just getting GW isnt enough to offset the 15% damage bonus.
Stone Ocean
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Giving ADCs more damage options will make them better at killing squishies which is what Riot is trying to move away from.
Now that I think of it they're nerfing Fervor and Shiv Cannon in the same patch and that makes me sad.
Now that I think of it they're nerfing Fervor and Shiv Cannon in the same patch and that makes me sad.
Ghost is Bad
Banned
they should give it 50% bonus armor pen :^)
Mister Negative
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man i forgot how fun heimer is. just stole baron with ult w and turned a game completely around
(also reminder that kaceytron's stream and chat belong in moma)
edit: she's reading an apology speech she wrote about a fast food tier list she released
(also reminder that kaceytron's stream and chat belong in moma)
edit: she's reading an apology speech she wrote about a fast food tier list she released
well fervor already exists and its great at killing squishies
BoTRK not being shit would be nice too.
moving from 40% bonus pen to 45% bonus pen gives you around 1.5% extra damage
I think another issue is that if a tank snowballs out of control, there's no itemisation to deal with their increased base armor - especially if you're behind as an ADC
Orochinagis
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Damm, Bard looks good now.
Mostmanlyman
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Yeah I'm really liking it. :^)
Ghost is Bad
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when is this bard skin coming out
gotta thank the geniuses at riot for girl bard
gotta thank the geniuses at riot for girl bard
Ghost is Bad
Banned
shoulda let me play bard
Ghost is Bad
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Reisen
Ghost is Bad
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its not sejuani because sejuanis hair is more white than grey. you lose zkynerd
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