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League of Legends |OT10| Botlane Was A Mistake, It's Nothing But Thresh
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I just saw some posts saying the ruined it or even made it useless and was curious if those people hated sion's Q or found that useless too as it has you stay stationary.
Mostmanlyman
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edit: after spending some more time in that menu i guess im being a bit unfair, it's not THAT bad since every agility guy seems to have either a bow or two daggers and every intelligence guy a staff and every strength guy is fat, but that's not super apparent from the little preview portraits in that menu so it's still pretty hard[/QUOTE]
Yeah I like playing dota when I get super on tilt in league.The practice mode it super nice in dota. And the custom mode are a lot of fun.
If only league had practice mode :^).
Yeah I like playing dota when I get super on tilt in league.The practice mode it super nice in dota. And the custom mode are a lot of fun.
If only league had practice mode :^).
I think they are kinda different. Sion's q is usually used after his e which slows the person and has longer range. Another thing is that soon can use his instantly if you want to, but it will do little to no damage. Darius is more short range and he does have a slow unless you use his pull. I find them different and I think sion's q fits on him better than on Darius.
You can already use sion's early and it doesnt knock up and does less damage.
Wouldn't at that point Darius have a better chance to hit if he pulls them directly next to him rather than a slow that doesn't place the opponent directly next to them and once cast is unable to adjust the angle or positioning?
He doesn't have a ranged slow but is W does slow also.
Mostmanlyman
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I have only played Darius once and that was before the rework so I am I don't really know. I have played sion a bunch recently. Darius and sions combos and Darius and different.
Sions is you slow them with your e then start your w try to hit your q then pop you w shield.
Darius you pull them in auto them with you empower autos and they use your q.
It seems like they wanted Darius q to be a poke skill that you can dodge so that is doesn't make it impossible to dodge skills. They made his q a lot less mana and it heals on champ hits . Which continue to make it seem like it poke skill.
yeah practice mode is something that league should have 100% if there's a new client, doto's is not perfect but it's tons better than nothing
also i like how their tutorials work, dunno if league's new tutorial is like this but i went into the lina tutorial and it went through the last hitting, leveling and item basics and it's pretty cool cos u get to play a real game against super easy bots but also you learn a bit of a simple build and skillpath which is useful for starting out
Well my question wasn't really regarding how the combo is done, but with Darius, at the start of the combo the enemy ends up directly next to Darius and then goes for the delayed Q which Darius can also move and chase the enemy slowly to reposition the Q. (My question is in regards to people saying they've made darius's Q bad now).
Sion hits his slow either by using a minion missle or just hitting him directly, which does not pull the enemy any closer to sion's position, then you have to walk towards the opponent to close the gap, then cast his Q in the direction they are or think they will be in and if you guess wrong you miss and can't alter that choice once you make it.
I'm curious if the same individuals who feel Darius' Q is bad also feel sion's is. On paper sion's looks way worse than what Darius's telegraphed Q is.
Hopefully that makes sense.
Mostmanlyman
Member
Ok my bad I misunderstood what you meant. Yeah I think it is mostly just the Darius mains that are crying out and making a stink about it. I think if those ppl played sion before he was changed and then they changed him, they would have the same reaction.
I think it is just part of the league community where if a champ is reworked like Darius and fiora. All those champions mains usually don't want them to be changed so they cry about it and complain while the rest the people are completely fine with it.
Ghost is Bad
Banned
uh all the heroes have their primary attribute right next to their name. it's even color coded for convenience.
red is strength, green is agility and intelligence is blue.
She's one of the more mobile immobile adc's for sure.
The delay on Darius' Q is a bit too high imo. It's so damn easy to play around and he's still as kiteable as ever so I think he shouldn't get healing from it, he should get movement speed....
Or maybe a successful ult kill should give him movement speed so he can get more pentakills
Or maybe a successful ult kill should give him movement speed so he can get more pentakills
Stone Ocean
Member
It's not even a full second
How do you feel about Sion's Q?
I personally don't feel that there is anything wrong with Darius' Q right now.
killatopak
Gold Member
Wrong thread.
Man I don't know where all the Darius Q = Sion Q comparisons come from because they stop at "being telegraphed"
Sion gets all the control in when he can release it with varying degrees of impact depending on charge time.
Darius has 1 gear. You hit or you don't, all with the same amount of charge time so he doesn't get the option to guarantee damage when Sion can.
If you could charge Darius Q to different stages (1. damage, 2. damage and bleed, 3. damage, bleed and heal) then maybe you'd have a point.
Sion gets all the control in when he can release it with varying degrees of impact depending on charge time.
Darius has 1 gear. You hit or you don't, all with the same amount of charge time so he doesn't get the option to guarantee damage when Sion can.
If you could charge Darius Q to different stages (1. damage, 2. damage and bleed, 3. damage, bleed and heal) then maybe you'd have a point.
killatopak
Gold Member
That's actually pretty accurate.
NCR Redslayer
NeoGAF's Vegeta
totally but at least you can tell the range better.
That would be more interesting as you could increase the duration and the damage.
Dobkeratops
OT Hard Carry
Okay, someone explain this shit to me. This is a pattern that has been going on for quite a while.
When I play with a couple people (silver-gold) the first game pits us against a similarly skilled team, which most of the time it's lost because the people I play with are headless chickens. That's okay and expected.
The second game is invariably this kind of bullshit:
Every fucking time. This is not okay. What the fuck riot.
When I play with a couple people (silver-gold) the first game pits us against a similarly skilled team, which most of the time it's lost because the people I play with are headless chickens. That's okay and expected.
The second game is invariably this kind of bullshit:
Every fucking time. This is not okay. What the fuck riot.
Ghost is Bad
Banned
shitty matchmaking algorithm gg
NCR Redslayer
NeoGAF's Vegeta
Well depending if you're gold, just quit ranked.
shits fucked
shits fucked
killatopak
Gold Member
Okay, someone explain this shit to me. This is a pattern that has been going on for quite a while.
When I play with a couple people (silver-gold) the first game pits us against a similarly skilled team, which most of the time it's lost because the people I play with are headless chickens. That's okay and expected.
The second game is invariably this kind of bullshit:
Every fucking time. This is not okay. What the fuck riot.
Normal MMR is different from Ranked MMR.
You could be challenger in ranked but have an mmr of a bronze in normal if you felt like it.
Dobkeratops
OT Hard Carry
I know this. I don't mind the occassional potato game. Every second team game though?
I don't want to point fingers at anyone but I bet Costy tampered with my MMR
Ghost is Bad
Banned
the dark side corrupts
Asking here as well in case anyone knows:
How long does it take for the charge to be lost? The wiki says:
I don't know what that "X seconds" is.
Ghost is Bad
Banned
x means variable which means it changes
yeah but like
agility means assassin and adc and intelligence is like support and mage but then i see like that wisp thing on strength and im like wth
finally
killatopak
Gold Member
Just think of Wisp as an AP tank like gragas but more towards utility.
NCR Redslayer
NeoGAF's Vegeta
Just play Tuskarr and snowball people with your walrus punch,
Tentative Skarner Hotfix
Lina is gud, ez to understand and has a lot of pretty cosplay.
Luna is a pretty girl that's ez to play and could be fun
She's like Sivir if Sivir didn't have a spellshield and had a massive nuke instead
Windrunner is fun and pretty. She wears sandals though. Eurgh. She's a little like Varus. Waveclear + ganker. She has the fun version of Bard Q.
CM is pretty, but not fun. Like moving through molasses - Avoid. Nice cosplay.
QoP is fun and pretty if youre into succubi. She's like Kassadin.
Death Prophet is a pushing machine. fun if you like to splitpush. Attractive if you're into ghosts. (I kno I am)
Drow Ranger and Phantom Assassin. NOT FUN. pass. farm simulator
Mirana is pretty. Ganker type person. pick if you like ganking n stuff. Plus she rides a tiger.
Templar Assassin is pretty. Fun if you miss playing ADC in league. Pretty active playstyle
I think weaver is a female. Kinda fun. Not pretty. Looks a lot like Reksai.
Enchantress could be pretty. Shes fun if you miss playing SC2.
Legion Commander is pretty if you're into armoured women. Play her if you wish Leona could duel people to death.
Meddler said:
Just stick to leeg then
Lina is gud, ez to understand and has a lot of pretty cosplay.
Luna is a pretty girl that's ez to play and could be fun
She's like Sivir if Sivir didn't have a spellshield and had a massive nuke instead
Windrunner is fun and pretty. She wears sandals though. Eurgh. She's a little like Varus. Waveclear + ganker. She has the fun version of Bard Q.
CM is pretty, but not fun. Like moving through molasses - Avoid. Nice cosplay.
QoP is fun and pretty if youre into succubi. She's like Kassadin.
Death Prophet is a pushing machine. fun if you like to splitpush. Attractive if you're into ghosts. (I kno I am)
Drow Ranger and Phantom Assassin. NOT FUN. pass. farm simulator
Mirana is pretty. Ganker type person. pick if you like ganking n stuff. Plus she rides a tiger.
Templar Assassin is pretty. Fun if you miss playing ADC in league. Pretty active playstyle
I think weaver is a female. Kinda fun. Not pretty. Looks a lot like Reksai.
Enchantress could be pretty. Shes fun if you miss playing SC2.
Legion Commander is pretty if you're into armoured women. Play her if you wish Leona could duel people to death.
Stone Ocean
Member
I never bothered reading the Skarner tooltips, does his E actually do 305 base damage? lol
Yes, that is why you should be maxing it over Q
Does it change with levels like a champion passive? I guess I should fire up and ARAM game and see if it's explained ingame.
I only played DOTA2 if I get to play Lina. I just wander around the map, try (and fail) to figure out last hit timing, and rush the item that upgrades her ultimate. I then try to get gold to do other burst-improving items.
It's not a good strategy, but it's fun to be able to nuke even reasonably strong enemies, and if you're near a teammate they can sometimes finish the other team off after you hurt a carry. Her skills are a little bit similar to Brand's too.
i mean i'm not planning to switch but every now and then someone convinces me to install it and try a few games against bots and so i'm at that positiong right now
yea she's def a candidate
i played her once but didn't like her, i don't want an adc
yea she's candidate 2, i like her laugh and she has skillshots and no passives which i like
who?
she's ugly so no
candidate number 3, she's probably my favorite cos i like her ult but ghost says she's a support and i want midlaner
also all the skins in doto are ugly i don't get how this game makes any money if they don't sell the champions either
CM = crystal maiden
Death Prophet isn't a support, shes a position 3 at worst. Usually a 2. (shes an off carry - usually mid or offlane with support). Ghost is bad.
Positions 4-5 are supports. 1 is the carry, 2 is the off-carry (mid/off laner) and 3 is the off laner/solo laner ('top laner')
How do they make money? Well compared to LoL and CSGO they probably don't really, other than charging 35-50USD for what is basically a legendary skin in Leeg. Plus they have more cosmetics to sell. CS GO's cosmetics are much better, hence the bigger gambling market.
they just funded a 16million prize pool tournament with a digital book and hats
yea the cosmetics are still crap though
like it's not really a comment on the game, it can be super great and better than league and everything but the skins are seriously garbage. there's some cool stuff like the puppy skin and i saw a cool skin for one of the assassin ladies that had a lot of extra vfx but a lot of times i have trouble noticing what's changed from one skin to the next since it's like a slightly different bracer or skirt or breasplate or hairstyle or horn or whatever.
like, i guess doto makes money by being a super addicting game that gets ppl opening the steam client and getting advertising for the store but still, i feel like they're doing a big disservice to their players by having only (from what i saw) shitty skins
like, i guess doto makes money by being a super addicting game that gets ppl opening the steam client and getting advertising for the store but still, i feel like they're doing a big disservice to their players by having only (from what i saw) shitty skins
NCR Redslayer
NeoGAF's Vegeta
I remember throwing my ult and dying and the ult never got thrown and it was on cooldown so yeah, i think it happens to a lot of champ.
Lux's ult gets cancelled if she's killed during the cast but she doesn't have a delay after her cast - standard behaviour for all 'cast time' spells
Syndra's ult doesn't have a delay either, it just has a long animation
Ahri Q and Sivir Q are boomerangs so theres that.
Ori Ult is more like if you kill Cassio after she casts her Q
I think the issue is that Ori's ball is considered a part of her so no ball no ulterino
Syndra's ult doesn't have a delay either, it just has a long animation
Ahri Q and Sivir Q are boomerangs so theres that.
Ori Ult is more like if you kill Cassio after she casts her Q
I think the issue is that Ori's ball is considered a part of her so no ball no ulterino
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