Ghost is Bad
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so rip rageblade
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League of Legends |OT10| Botlane Was A Mistake, It's Nothing But Thresh
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I dunno, man. It's got 5000 gold worth of stats that are almost never useful on the same guy, because it's a hybrid AD/AP item that wants you to auto a lot but provides no attack speed. It's a perfectly designed item for exactly one champion (Jax) and his win rate in Diamond+ is 47%. Deathfire Grasp was useful for literally anybody who did a lot of magic damage, so of course it was going to warp design. But what's the hypothetical situation where Rageblade warps the game? It stops Riot from making champions with better hybrid scaling? Riot hates doing that anyway! They haven't released a champion that actually wants to build hybrid in like 5 years!
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it does give atk spd tho
its also rly good on irelia kayle and sorta good on a ton of other champs like yi and xin just because it gives all 3 of the big offensive stats at a ridiculously low cost
its also rly good on irelia kayle and sorta good on a ton of other champs like yi and xin just because it gives all 3 of the big offensive stats at a ridiculously low cost
We'll probably never get another hybrid champ and that's fine. They are usually just trouble.
In practice on most hybrid champs you build either AD or AP because stacking one is almost always better unless the hybrid-specific items are broken because %pen works the way it does.
So yeah, no point in hybrids to be quite honest.
edit: Corki is cool though.
In theory, you could get a more adaptable build. Old Kata could be built AD (stronger Q and stronger ult against squishies, strong auto attacks and lifesteal) or AP (stronger E and stronger ult against tanks, more utility from Rylai) and it was kinda ok. It sucked that you were forced to all in on either AD or AP because the ult would scale only from the higher number.
In practice on most hybrid champs you build either AD or AP because stacking one is almost always better unless the hybrid-specific items are broken because %pen works the way it does.
So yeah, no point in hybrids to be quite honest.
edit: Corki is cool though.
contologics
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Just raising it by 300 gold doesn't do shit for the amount of stats it gives you, that's just a few waves and one back then you come back to lane/jg and wreck face. I'd just rather it get nerfed to dirt like it used to be. I mean, there are so many things about pre-6 I hate, but rageblade is pretty high on that list.
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corki :^)
i think it's much more healthy to the game to create different items and allow players to build their characters differently based on different item effects than based on a different stat. dfg or rylais or something like that
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so what ur saying is
dota
dota
yeah thats better
if you get rid of the whole str agi int ball of stats stuff then sure
Ghost is Bad
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str int and agi only matter on the type of hero. they have no bearing on the scaling of your spells which means you can be much more flexible with what items you buy.
Or in the least bit hybird scaling champions. I don't mind champions that deal significant mixed damage but tend to skew towards one type of damage item (e.g. Shyvana).
Rageblade wouldn't be so bad if it weren't for how it meshes with Sated Devouverer. God damn I hate that item. Such a stupid thing. I can't bring myself to even play Xin anymore. The changes to Warriors and Youmuu's hurt Xin's AD-centric builds and forced me to use devourer centric builds.
My whole jungle pool is in flux right now. Still rocking Elise, Nautilus, and Skarner, but I don't know who I want to add. Right now it's Ekko and Poppy. Sometimes I think I should vary things a bit and learn jungle Quinn. I need to just start playing more. Thought about starting to play Volibear and Trundle again to pick up a true damage soaking tank, but if I want to go that route I'd rather just play jungle Sion. Love me some jungle Sion.
i know what they mean, you do get the bonus AD though if you have the right type of hero. The few heroes that have scaling spells usually have scalings with int etc though, other than that you have no scalings.
More active stuff and utility like in dota is cool, the str agi int system is not cool.
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darius top isnt even a thing anymore
what makes darius jungle better than top
what makes darius jungle better than top
crimsonspider89
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Yeah Darius top is dead.
Try Mundo in the jungle. Or Rammus.
Try Mundo in the jungle. Or Rammus.
He is kindboy
Ghost is Bad
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i thought that was xwx
Stone Ocean
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Thats a fuckboy not a kindboy
I was using the LoL Client. Apparently it only lists the top 3 master characters you own to other visitors. I always thought visitors to a profile could somehow see a list of all the master characters
Myself I've only mastered Leona, Vi, and Karma. But none has nowhere near as much xp as what you put into Jayce.
Stone Ocean
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Dat ult damage tho
It would probably be really fucking strong if Equilibrium Strike still had a 1.0 ratio lol
It would probably be really fucking strong if Equilibrium Strike still had a 1.0 ratio lol
Ekko is rapidly turning into my strongest jungler by a long shot. Fits well into a lot of team comps, decent early game and stays relevant throughout. I need a skin for him though. Don't like sandstorm and like academy even less.
I've fallen off with Elise unfortunately. Last few games have been rough. Going to pull pantheon out of retirement and check him out with a ghostblade rush and precision. Armor pen for days.
I've fallen off with Elise unfortunately. Last few games have been rough. Going to pull pantheon out of retirement and check him out with a ghostblade rush and precision. Armor pen for days.
Stone Ocean
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I dunno about Panth jungle now that Warrior is lame
Orochinagis
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Kindred is pretty fun until the enemy jungla starts to hunts you then Kindred turns into a poor fly dying in less than a second
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wut kindred shits on most junglers lol
Dreams-Visions
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I was about to say, isn't she like top 5?
Wolf Akela
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Isn't the loss of Brutalizer as a recipe a huge loss? You won't have CDR and Arpen once you hit 6.
Orochinagis
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For real? I have a hard time when the enemy jungler CCs me and instan kills me
Stone Ocean
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How many junglers are there that can lock you down while also out damaging you?
Abuse that Q reset and there's little most of them can do
The amount of flat armor pen in the game at early levels is nuts right now, and allows pantheon to transition to mid and late squishy murdering machine. He's better than he's ever been, but still has problems if his team doesn't have proper follow up
Orochinagis
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Tried, W then Q to fight back or just try to run away but the jungler kills me
You still have cdr just no armor pen. It's +20 ad -10 pen compared to the old one
In diamond, yes. In gold-plat, no.
Dreams-Visions
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and what's the reason for this distinction?
what are top 5 "gold+" and what are top 5 "diamond"?
better players win more with more difficult to play champions, nothing fancy to it 
someone like kindred has to kite around jungle creeps and plays really different from other jungles which i'm sure is not an easy transition from ppl used to just play vi or j4 or whatever
that's my guess anyways
someone like kindred has to kite around jungle creeps and plays really different from other jungles which i'm sure is not an easy transition from ppl used to just play vi or j4 or whatever
that's my guess anyways
How do you mean, like specifically which champions are top 5 in either category or why is she top five in one but not there other (i.e. top 5 is top 5 period mentality).
better players win more with more difficult to play champions, nothing fancy to it
someone like kindred has to kite around jungle creeps and plays really different from other jungles which i'm sure is not an easy transition from ppl used to just play vi or j4 or whatever
that's my guess anyways
Better players is part of it, another part is that the game at Diamond is different than in lower tiers. Teammates are more conscious of meta picks and team compositions, and they're often good enough at their role/champion picks to not be idiots and let lanes snowball at level 1, stuff like that. So in Kindred's case that means a higher likelihood of a top lane tank (freeing the jungler from that need) and less "team triage" and more reliable time to scale up.
i'm probably gonna play it this week since someone gifted it to me
i heard it's really good
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its ok.
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