Just as an example, random AP mids. Take Ziggs or Annie or Karma or Ori or Diana mid icause I like playing most of them. Syndra is kind of a not so good choice since he can E her ult pretty easy unless you combo him with a stun. Annie can ult + burst him down, or stun, farm a few minions and be ready with stun again, Ziggs will never let him get close enough, and if he does he drops a minefield and satchels away, Karma shrugs off his E with her E unless he starts Dorans (and then has no sustain) ect. Ori pulls in her ball and does all 3 of her skills on a shorter CD with more pre-6 burst. And these are mages, it's even worse vs a lot of the AD mids with the steroid boosts or more natural self healing to counteract his own W (which relies on sustained engages from the DoT). Or someone like Zed which is just plain more efficient with poke and escapes.
Basically if Fizz jumps on you and your minion wave is still up, his passive will negate most of the minion wave dmg but not much else at the same time so you should go even + he is more likely to have been harassed v a mage than the other way around, especially pre-6 since a lot of their basic moves are either more efficient or AoE or both. If he happens to get 6 before you do, that is a problem, but otherwise he's manageable. Especially since the moment he Es on you he becomes super weak to a jungle gank for a fair window of time.
All this and he's still really good because he is such an effective 1 v 1 duelist once his skills are leveled, but his laning has never been his strong point. He has to E to clear with any efficiency and that means it's expensive and it opens him up to ganks the second it goes on CD. Even if you are scared to duel him (you should be) keeping the wave pushed so he has a hard time roaming (like most assassins want to do) isn't hard vs him. Until he gets levels in his E it really is that bad.
you're looking at it the wrong way tho, i never said he's good at trading against a mage because any ranged champion, specially ones with shields like lulu or ori, can just tank his dmg then auto him while he runs away. he can dodge your main spell with his e which makes him really difficult to play against with mids that have dodgeable spells. your examples here are kind of dodgy, cos like karma and ori and diana have shields to trade with him and also don't have a big "if i miss this i'm fucked" kind of spell like syndra or xerath or ahri or whatever. annie has a very easy stun to land even pre-6 and she also has her e. ziggs has an escape and is really long range. i'm not saying he has favorable matchups against all these champions but i disagree that he's weak against them because...
what i did say i said is that he has a ton of tools to survive your harass and then the kill pressure to discourage you to actually harass him. fizz dmg is pretty nuts, even early on, and it's so easy to land and the fact that he can ignore your cc is terrifying for immobile mages which means that going up for an auto against him is a always risky move. he dodges your one spell, you're helpless, and that's a ton of lane pressure your way, specially since he shrugs off a lot of auto dmg (usually one of your main ways to fuck over melee mids) thanks to his passive and because he has flask. and then he gets 6 and he can just try to kill you with zero risk by throwing his ult. he misses no biggie, it lands and it's a one shot kill.
a good option would be to push him to turret, but it also puts you in a shitty situation cos you're easy prey for lee sin and co. plus, pushing him out is pretty costly for most other mids too, someone like ori spends like 180 mana on qwe'ing a wave. like obviously it's what you end up doing but it's really easy for him to throw his fish out and set up or follow up a gank
so yeah, i never said he was zed in lane (zed is stupid), but he's FAAAAAAAAAR from weak
Thank you T_T
I was thinking of playing TF/Ori/Lulu/? mid lane when the ping stabilizes as on some days I still get weird packet loss/ping spikes. I thought Cass would be a good champion to round it off, but I'm not sure. I could always go back to Jayce but the tank meta still gives me nightmares. I guess those three will be more than enough for the foreseeable future.
I haven't played Ranked in almost two months but I'm going to try for Plat before the season ends. T_T
i mean, ori's the best champion in the game imo so can't recommend her enough
tf is really good if you know how to play safe in lane. i don't so i don't like him but he's a cool champion
lulu's ok, i think she's a bit weak right now as a solo lane cos u depend so much on having a decent adc and those are hard to come by
