Play Graves.
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Play Graves.
He's a bad combination of Miss Fortune, Caitlyn and Ashe. He's not terrible by any means but there are better ADCs out there.
His blight(?) makes clearing dragon solo at low levels pretty quick. In hard engages though, you rarely get the chance to maximize the stacks. I like his CC from E and R.
XeroSauce
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Works better with a shredder build then ADC, because there are other ADC's that straight up beat him.
boring as fuck, draven is the real deal.
scumbag riot need to stop releasing tons adc because they dont need to balance the shit out of them.
SouthernDragon
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Shredder?
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Where is that character from? I know I've seen her before. Persona?
Low mobility ADC with no real escape besides his ult =/. Play Corki or Graves if you want a good ADC.
Persona 4 Arena.
Probably one of my favorite ADC to play but he's definitely not top tier. His ult is crazy good for fights and his Q is pretty neat but other than that there are better champions to play like Kog or Graves. His W stacks and extra damage is really good for lvl 1-3 fights.
VanillaCakeIsBurning
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Maybe later. I would feel bad because I just claimed this avatar yesterday.
Jazzy Network
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I thought you said bathroom Morgana.
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rule 34 paheal site man... some awesome and terrifying stuff.
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Mister Wilhelm
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Varus is one of the better AD carries in the game. Problem is nobody plays him right.
He NEEDS magic pen to be effective. Don't max Q in lane. It's minimally effective in harassment. W is your main tool.
For masteries do not go all the way down in the offensive tree.
http://solomid.net/masteries.php#1300440411010000000224021000000000000000000000000
I know it looks funny, but the magic penetration is HUGE for your damage.
What you want to do is constantly trade autoattacks. Last hit a minion for the AS buff, get two quick AAs in, then back up and hit them with a spell to detonate the blight.
Early-mid game there are only two ADs that can beat you in a trade: Corki and Draven. Graves will win if he gets a close range buckshot off.
You need to get a good support to help you with this goal. Nunu synergizes well with Varus as you can get all three stacks on fast and detonate for at least 30% health every time. If not him, Soraka will give you a heal every time you trade and silence your opponent so they can't get any big damage casts off before you retreat. Other than them, Lulu is actually pretty decent and so is Janna.
Once your opponent is at about 40-50%, go all in. Hit them with a few AAs, arrow rain if they have a healing support to stop it, then AA again and ult them. They will be dead in the next few seconds.
Not the easiest AD to play because he requires a VERY specific mindset and a support that knows what you re doing, but his damage output mid game is nuts. He does not drop off late game at all and his ult can end games if it hits the right targets.
VanillaCakeIsBurning
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Now I don't feel like playing Hecarim anymore.
Feels like if I play really well with a certain champion and consistently get high scores, I need to stop otherwise I will start doing poorly somehow, so as not to stain my good record with said champion.
Feels like if I play really well with a certain champion and consistently get high scores, I need to stop otherwise I will start doing poorly somehow, so as not to stain my good record with said champion.
Yeah, that must suck....
Good thing I never play well with any champion.
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Ashamed. Always ashamed, forever alone...
Nice to see someone actually likes the poor guy
Might try him next time he goes on free week.
Ashamed. Always ashamed, forever alone...
Nice to see someone actually likes the poor guy
Might try him next time he goes on free week.
lol. I used him the most on LoLGAF when he first came out. He isn't the best but he's definitely not the worst. Honestly, people don't choose him because they find other carries to be much more worthwhile. Hence why we still see Graves and Ashe a lot.
I dunno. Varus really might be the worst AD carry choice. Very inconsistent kit. I haven't played him to really say though.
Meh. I'd rather take Varus over Caitlyn or Draven. Though Draven has a BA laning phase.
Draven should not be doubted. He probably has the highest potential damage output of any character in the game. Caitlyn at least has some utility, her range, some form of mobility and positioning, and a crazy late game.
XeroSauce
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Draven should not be doubted. He probably has the highest potential damage output of any character in the game. Caitlyn at least has some utility, her range, some form of mobility and positioning, and a crazy late game.
Caitlyn does not have a late-game that's nearly as good as almost any other carry with a steroid.
He has some useful stuff in his kit but it feels like nothing stands out as truly being great. But I haven't seen any really good Varus players either.
That said, I would have him over Caitlyn for the most part. But, then again ... cupcakes man. Cupcakes.
VanillaCakeIsBurning
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Draven should not be doubted. He probably has the highest potential damage output of any character in the game. Caitlyn at least has some utility, her range, some form of mobility and positioning, and a crazy late game.
I think that title belong to Hecarim.
Jazzy Network
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What game?
To begin with, Caitlyn does have a steroid. It's her passive. It's crazy late game because it will go off all the time with a high attack speed and it hits for obscene amounts of damage. It's similar to Corki really but with bigger burst. Attack Speed steroids are most valuable in lane trades and in mid game, but with a full build up they're not really as essential. Caitlyn has an amazing and undervalued late game because of how weak her mid game is.
Unrelated, but Cho'gath got way overbuffed. Dude is going to be everywhere.
Wolf Akela
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Finally. REALLY annoying when someone just clicks to where the battle is happening, but not noticing that they're walking over every health relic.
why
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Yeah his W is where you get all of your real damage from, but it's hard to stack maximize in 5 on 5 team fights if another team really pushes the engage and you get focused.
His W is the main damage dealer and if applied to full stacks can actually out damage most of the other ad carriers in game 1 v 1 especially early on.
I've tried this and agree. I've played Varus has my main AD Carry Wise, and it's all about that extra magic damage from the W. That's your main damage source. I'd agree with the magic penetration.
Problem I have is his W doesn't synergize well with what an AD carry usually is. Makes it hard to not try and get hybrid runes as well as items. That gimps him IMO compared to other AD top tier characters. Also means he falls off to an extent late game. There just aren't any easy fixes to this IMO.
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