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Stop pretending that you know how to play top kayle - the best build is straight AD like an adc. This buff makes items like rage blade or trinity a little better for kayle to give her more itemisation choices since the initial design of her was to use her righteous fury through ap/as anyway
I know this. Maybe if you were as good at League as you are at putting words in other peoples mouths you'd know that there are still numerous situations where she will see a small damage boost from the increased AP scaling without building AP herself, even through simple things like WotAs on the team.
Itemization choices only open up if they offer more power. Did Kayle need more power? Of course not. This is AP scaling increase is a lazy fix that doesn't even do that to begin with.
Remember that conversation a few pages ago about how abrasive and hostile you are? Don't know where they got that idea
Because Boken is being nothing but insulting to both me and people who haven't even posted today.Remember that conversation a few pages ago about how abrasive and hostile you are? Don't know where they got that idea
SouthernDragon
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Maybe if you were nice to people, people would be nice back.
Anyway,
Kayle's abusiveness comes from her laning. Why would you bring up wota?
And Not all itemisation choices have to be a competitive itemisation choice. It's about allowing people to play builds that aren't gimped. Like how ap teemo isn't gimped but isn't his best build either.
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I don't get this, you know I'm better than you at league so why would you try to play that card?
Kayle's abusiveness comes from her laning. Why would you bring up wota?
And Not all itemisation choices have to be a competitive itemisation choice. It's about allowing people to play builds that aren't gimped. Like how ap teemo isn't gimped but isn't his best build either.
Already said my piece about it, but if you want to play bruiser Akali, Trinity is a decent item. Curse EU's Angush goes Trinity on Akali, as does Voyboy on occasion. It's not an assassin build, it's for sustained damage and chasing (like any top lane bruiser plays).
XeroSauce
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It's fine that pros build it, doesn't mean that it's great. I don't see why she would need anything but the Sheen. Rylai's gets her slow, and she gets more resistances from a simple Guardian Angel or something. 250 health is really not much, and Phage/Zeal don't help her as much.
I'm not saying it's great, I think people are just misunderstanding the differences in the builds. It's apples and oranges. Trinity is a poor choice on an assassin build, but that's not what bruiser builds are going for. Phage and Zeal help because more auto attacks = more magic damage from her passive, which is crucial in a bruiser build that focuses on sustained damage. Also more spell vamp from her passive as well. The only truly wasted stat is the mana.
Additionally, Gunblade + Rylai's + GA costs a lot more than Gunblade + TF.
That's like saying Rylai's is a genuinely terrible item on Kog - it isn't if you're going AP.
XeroSauce
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I would never say Rylai's is terrible on Kog.
And comparing those two builds is ridiculous because they don't come close to giving the same stats, so you can't compare costs like that.
I don't play Akali so I can't say more on the subject but from what I know of Trinity Force, it wouldn't work for a champion made and designed to be an assassin. I'm sure it has it's uses but why light a fire with a rock when you have matches right over there.
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That was posted already twice.
I don't have to be nice to you, and you certainly don't return the courtesy.
I'm at such a loss for words at this point. You aren't even good at this game but you think you're such hot stuff. I really just don't want anything to do with LoLGAF so whatever, bye.
I literally can't explain it anymore than I have. Akali does a lot of really good sustained damage when built with Trinity Force + Gunblade. She scales well with attack speed due to her passive bonus magic damage and AD improves her spell vamp. It ultimately depends on the team comps, but if she can get into prolonged team fights, she will do a ton of damage (likely even more that assassin Akali).
I'm not saying that bruiser Akali > assassin Akali, and in fact, probably 90 percent of the cases, burst Akali will do more consistent damage with way fewer caveats. But in certain team comps, bruiser Akali can be a viable pick and a little bit of AD + attack speed + a consistent slow does her very well in these situations.
Champions like TF and Sion were DESIGNED to be played as AD. It's really hard to pigeonhole characters based on how they are "supposed" to be played, especially a lot of the earlier ones.
XeroSauce
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I'm gonna take your word for it, again I don't play Akali. It just doesn't theoretically seem right.
Bruiser Akali is never viable because other bruisers are much more viable than her if she built bruiser. No point. As a result it's either Burst or no Akali.
Don't take that so literally, I don't mean myself here. You put people down constantly when they are wrong, stating the ultimateness of your correctness. I simply felt compelled to always tell you when you were wrong.
That's a bit rich sodacop - I remember seeing how you put everybody down, acting as if you know the best about everything. I'm not saying I'm hot stuff, you put the card down so I just had to say that I'm better than you.
I to do you what you do to others (and arguably less condescendingly), and you cry and run away. How should others feel?
Wolf Akela
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This is why we can't have nice things. V_V
Not even the first time he stated or implied leaving anyway. I still remember you implying that you'll just leave after I showed numbers that an AP ult Kog is better built with mana and mpen before AP.
Not even the first time he stated or implied leaving anyway. I still remember you implying that you'll just leave after I showed numbers that an AP ult Kog is better built with mana and mpen before AP.
you could say the opposite as well, Other champs burst harder than akali as well. Her burst isn't the only reason shes a good pick, her mobility is also a powerful tool.
At any rate, this is a dumb debate that stemmed from me miwunderstanding a post. I've made my points, and if you want to continue to think bruiser akali is unviable or a troll pick in every situation, go ahead. If you want to see some good bruiser akali play, check out crs eu angush.
Akali is a great pick. She's just not used in tournaments because she needs to be in melee range to do instant damage making her an easy target. She has one of the highest bursts in the game. Period.
Just because you're not good mean you have bad game sense. Sometimes it's a matter of performance during actual game, etc. Don't equate game performance to game knowledge. It's a dumb thing to say.
Voyboy built Trinity Force Akali recently in a tournament game against a Chinese team. It sucked, he couldn't kill anything. Jumps on Sona, does 30% damage to her and dies.
Akali doesn't need to build as a Bruiser. She gets off big damage then hides until her CDs and energy are back up.
I'm sure it can work sometimes but it doesn't seem particularly good. In Voyboy's case the team had a Karth, Sona and Corki - three squishy targets - and he couldn't kill any of them. I'd rather build Triforce on Cho lol. (Don't laugh until you try it!)
As far as this mean / who is better than who talk: being exclusively a player of normals, a non-competitive mode, while trash talking everyone is a fairly inane combination.
Akali doesn't need to build as a Bruiser. She gets off big damage then hides until her CDs and energy are back up.
I'm sure it can work sometimes but it doesn't seem particularly good. In Voyboy's case the team had a Karth, Sona and Corki - three squishy targets - and he couldn't kill any of them. I'd rather build Triforce on Cho lol. (Don't laugh until you try it!)
As far as this mean / who is better than who talk: being exclusively a player of normals, a non-competitive mode, while trash talking everyone is a fairly inane combination.
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edit: wait I just took time reading all the drama.... really? triforce?
After gunblade merc deathcap you will need defensive item to be relevant, GA, hourglass/rylais, voidstaff.
There are simple no space for lichbane or triforce.
All the time.
Bruiser Akali (trinity force) basically trades damage for a bit more survabilty. So generally, it's not worth it. There may be specific times where it is acceptable though.
Re: the clg v iG game, voyboy played bruiser Akali as an attempted evolution on the shyvanna-lulu-orianna combos that exist (or maybe shy was just banned). His main role was to get into perfect position so orianna could ult and then lulu could ult. Hence, it wasn't his damage that was valued but his ability to position the ult - therefore they went for survivability Akali.
Re: the clg v iG game, voyboy played bruiser Akali as an attempted evolution on the shyvanna-lulu-orianna combos that exist (or maybe shy was just banned). His main role was to get into perfect position so orianna could ult and then lulu could ult. Hence, it wasn't his damage that was valued but his ability to position the ult - therefore they went for survivability Akali.
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Some ap on kayle is pretty decent.
i usually get a nashors, malady, rageblade, and gunblade on kayle, the ap definetly doesn't hurt, but my build tends to be more of a troll atkspd build, throwing on a madreds at some point too.
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