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SouthernDragon
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Yeah, I'm trying my best to be decent at this game. I don't have the luxury some of you got of being able to screw around and still do ok.
Try playing Singed?
My guide for people who are beginning League of Legends who never played a MOBA.
1. No, don't practice with bot matches. Outside of the first two or so games where you may get a smurf, you'll be playing with people just as new as you. All bots do is teach you bad habits and keep you soft.
2. Don't spend any money on this account. You'll realize why later.
3. Get to level 30, hooray! Pat yourself on the back. You realize that for the past couple of levels you're playing with a lot of people who are soft in the head. Chances are, you ended up in ELO hell. Some say it doesn't exist, but it does. You may of been in this ELO because you had to learn how everything works, that's okay (you gotta walk before you run), but the game decides you're in an ELO with people who've played a thousand more games as you but are in the same hellish ELO as you. Really sucks if you spent money on several champions just to play them in games where a Shaco AFKs because a Brazilian Yi stole it and immediately died. And it's just as likely to happen to the other team so your enjoyment level between games shift from "I want to kill the whole world" to "I won, but it didn't feel like it." You can grit your teeth and try to fight your way out of it as Janna, or...
4. Make a smurf account, and stomp on a bunch of skulls for a couple games (while apologizing!) until it flags you as a smurf and sky rockets your elo.
5. Watch madness unfold for a few games as you end up fighting a menagerie of smurfs. Some are incredibly skilled, some are bad players who didn't realize the game has flagged them, etc. It's going to be like watching galaxies explode, but you start to notice that the more games you play, the more things balance out.
6. You are now smurfing at an ELO that puts you up with and against other smurfs that are actually around your skill level! You may see new things such as actual junglers, coordination, and impressive feats of teamwork! Holy crap, people aren't trolling or feeding. You can start spending money.
7. Hit level 30, look at how much higher your win:loss ratio is on your account is. Smile.
1. No, don't practice with bot matches. Outside of the first two or so games where you may get a smurf, you'll be playing with people just as new as you. All bots do is teach you bad habits and keep you soft.
2. Don't spend any money on this account. You'll realize why later.
3. Get to level 30, hooray! Pat yourself on the back. You realize that for the past couple of levels you're playing with a lot of people who are soft in the head. Chances are, you ended up in ELO hell. Some say it doesn't exist, but it does. You may of been in this ELO because you had to learn how everything works, that's okay (you gotta walk before you run), but the game decides you're in an ELO with people who've played a thousand more games as you but are in the same hellish ELO as you. Really sucks if you spent money on several champions just to play them in games where a Shaco AFKs because a Brazilian Yi stole it and immediately died. And it's just as likely to happen to the other team so your enjoyment level between games shift from "I want to kill the whole world" to "I won, but it didn't feel like it." You can grit your teeth and try to fight your way out of it as Janna, or...
4. Make a smurf account, and stomp on a bunch of skulls for a couple games (while apologizing!) until it flags you as a smurf and sky rockets your elo.
5. Watch madness unfold for a few games as you end up fighting a menagerie of smurfs. Some are incredibly skilled, some are bad players who didn't realize the game has flagged them, etc. It's going to be like watching galaxies explode, but you start to notice that the more games you play, the more things balance out.
6. You are now smurfing at an ELO that puts you up with and against other smurfs that are actually around your skill level! You may see new things such as actual junglers, coordination, and impressive feats of teamwork! Holy crap, people aren't trolling or feeding. You can start spending money.
7. Hit level 30, look at how much higher your win:loss ratio is on your account is. Smile.
Yorick is pretty fun, but I generally run AD reds and Quints, his ghouls scale of it, and his shovel does pretty weak dmg so it helps with last hitting as well. My biggest problem with Yorick is every time I play him in blind solo queue, I ult our carry, he dies and then when he is revived for 10secs stands there and complains about the server lag.. urgh.
I'll wait for the patch then decide, I'm not bothered if their OP, they just look fun to play.
Well in that case I think I might just buy Ahri, cheers.
Ahri's almost certainly getting a small nerf next patch although Riot hasn't said anything about it. She's very strong right now and a top tier caster. Wukong is very good in lower-medium elo, but he seems to be countered in high elo matches.
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http://i.imgur.com/PTuOi.jpg fantastic wallpaper
What counters Wukong other than like a Malphite top?
Sustain.
Ahaha 3. assumes you get stuck in (normal games) ELO hell. If you really are "stuck" and it's impossible for you to get out of there, that means you belong there. Simple as that.
You could also hit level 30 and just do ranked - it offers an ELO reset every season. I don't see the benefits of having to play 150 more games all over again just to hit level 30 again. All that wasted IP too. Eurgh.
Wukong uses Mana. Try Kennan or Rumble. Basically characters who can outlast him and force him to use his mana more. Sometimes its not about beating the other lane, rather just preventing that lane from becoming a problem.
Phoenixazure
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This would've been useful a year ago when I started. Oh well.
Legato.Reborn-
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You can add Vladimir to that group of mana-less champions that beat Wukong top lane. Tryndamere might be the exception though. Wukong takes a big dump on him.
Kennen and Rumble are good against almost everyone right now though.
Jazzy Network
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Most of the people I play with I like. Or I wouldn't play with them.
I heard some gafers rage quit the other day. I've played with a few good sportsman players. We had to be patient because we were playing with a few nubs lol.
That is kind of why I said them. Having no mana gives you a massive advantage. I'd say try a Morde or Garen too for the same very reason.
All LOLGaf does is AFK in chat, so the latter is true.
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Legato.Reborn-
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Can you not confirm or deny?
It's always funny to see this sort of point of view. It's like some rich guy complaining about how poor people need to lift themselves up by their bootstraps.
Dragging yourself out of ELO hell is a painful, long experience. Oh cool, you managed to win six consecutive games. Enjoy being flagged for multiple losses and getting stuck with three people with the reputation for leaving. It's more chance than anything.
Deny. So you heard.
I don't think you know how the matchmaking system works. Or maybe you just believe in divine providence. But win streaks have nothing to do with the chance of future losses. Aha
Ya, that was the recipe for a late game nightmare. Tryn + Yi = eff my life. We made Vayne useless at least.
I ended up 13/3/12. We were actually melting vayne and akali, nearly melting trynd and finishing him off, and taric was just an annoyance. It was just so late by the time we started winning teamfights that we had too few turrets, I guess.
Ctrl + the letter.
Result of 21-game boots-first silly non-scientific experiment with Riven:
Won 11, lost 10. However, I won 7/10 of those first 10 games, but lost 7/10 of the second 10 even with some decent scores (9/3/2 loss, 9/3/5 loss, 10/1/7 loss, 13/3/12 loss).
Over all 20 games, I averaged (rounded) 7 kills, 2 deaths, 6 assists. Not all games were solo top however. Some had 2 players on one or both sides.
My conclusion is that yes, boots first IS a good general choice for riven. In particular, I went up against a boots-first garen, and I think I would have had severe problems harassing and farming had I not gotten boots first. With the boots though, I was able to harass and farm, with just enough speed and Q's left to get out. I don't know if it will be viable in the future with the ki burst and health regen nerfs, but one key thing boots allows you to do is dash in, stun, and hop out or walk back. The hop range isn't very far, but if you get boots and a melee person against you doesn't, you may be able to avoid taking damage entirely.
The most recent game, I laned against a caitlyn top. They apparently didn't play caitlyn much, but they still called me OP and said they couldn't wait for a ki burst nerf. I guess I should take that as a compliment but it made me want to cry. ;_;
Won 11, lost 10. However, I won 7/10 of those first 10 games, but lost 7/10 of the second 10 even with some decent scores (9/3/2 loss, 9/3/5 loss, 10/1/7 loss, 13/3/12 loss).
Over all 20 games, I averaged (rounded) 7 kills, 2 deaths, 6 assists. Not all games were solo top however. Some had 2 players on one or both sides.
My conclusion is that yes, boots first IS a good general choice for riven. In particular, I went up against a boots-first garen, and I think I would have had severe problems harassing and farming had I not gotten boots first. With the boots though, I was able to harass and farm, with just enough speed and Q's left to get out. I don't know if it will be viable in the future with the ki burst and health regen nerfs, but one key thing boots allows you to do is dash in, stun, and hop out or walk back. The hop range isn't very far, but if you get boots and a melee person against you doesn't, you may be able to avoid taking damage entirely.
The most recent game, I laned against a caitlyn top. They apparently didn't play caitlyn much, but they still called me OP and said they couldn't wait for a ki burst nerf. I guess I should take that as a compliment but it made me want to cry. ;_;
SouthernDragon
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Bullshit. Some of us get ill-tempered, but that usually wears off before the next day. I will admit that I have been guilty of that yesterday, and I apologize.
I honestly can't think of more than, like, 2 people out of 40 or 50 that I've played with that I'm like "what a jerk", and even then they're back to normal the next time.
Also, LoL-GAF plays together every day... multiple teams and multiple times, to boot. Heck, in-house is becoming more and more common, which is why you are starting to see complaints about in-house setups.
IsayFever
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y u trollin bro.
Legato.Reborn-
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No doubt "elo hell" is a painful experience, but I am often reminded of many plat players being reset to 0 elo after a certain hack and playing all the way back up to plat -- Solo-q.
Someone told me that's the way it was. I'm not a good troll in general.
You must be trollin', 'cuz LoL-GAF is an extremely pleasant group. The vets are very willing to help teach newbies the ropes.
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We have a little somethin' somethin' for naysayers like you
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