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yeah the patch is too good to be true
How is it too good? Even if it was real, those changes are mediocre and stupid. No justification behind them all. Probably some whiner who thinks "OMG [Insert Champion Name] OP!!!!"
kass, vlad, skarner, cass, ahri, morgana, sona, soraka
yes, all balanced champs and unknown for being powerful*
*im being sarcastic
I'm confused. Are you trying to say that Ahri, Skarner, Cass, Vlad, etc are not balanced? Sorry but in the hands of a good player they're extremely strong. The cap is the skill for some champs and the gap between an average player and one that is an expert shows.
fuck yeah they're not balanced
they're OP and the majority were must pick/bans
good riddance
It's not real so I wouldn't worry too much.
I completely disagree. Ahri is not OP. I'm not sure about the other champs since I don't play them but I don't think Ahri is OP. Hell, people still think Akali is OP.
What planet do you live on where Ahri isn't OP? If people still rag on Akali I don't see them anymore.
Tell me why you think Ahri is OP so I don't say some stupid nonsensical crap.
yeah, these nerfs were way too good to be real
in reality i think kass probably got his CD lowered on his ult and sona probably got a tiny love tap and will still anally violate us with pokes
Great damage, great laning, great ganking, great escape. Oh and an AP carry with a ranged taunt. She has few real weaknesses and depending on who's playing her they can essentially catch/escape everything.
in fact, glancing at her wiki info, isn't this a buff? instead of having to get 3 charges she only gets 2 now? (I don't play Ahri but I have experience playing against her)
surely you agree every other nerf is warranted? only one I find questionable is kass nerf but if it gets people off of my first baby I'm fine with it
MultiCore
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The morg nerfs are what makes me question this.
Otherwise, I could see Riot making these sort of drastic changes to try to shake things up and sell some different champs.
Edit: The name of the skill is just totally wrong, and I don't see that kind of mistake coming from Riot. Far too ambiguous, and would cause a lot of confusion.
Otherwise, I could see Riot making these sort of drastic changes to try to shake things up and sell some different champs.
It seems that it's reducing her ult output to 2 flames instead of 3, per activation.
Edit: The name of the skill is just totally wrong, and I don't see that kind of mistake coming from Riot. Far too ambiguous, and would cause a lot of confusion.
Ahri's ult isn't like akali's in that you build up charges. When the cd is up you get to use her ult three times in fairly quick succession, if these notes are true, you will only be able to do it twice. Stupid nerf.
oh so she can't gank/escape everything with impunity once a minute and so
god if only these were confirmed real
So not only Ahri, but you hate all AP mids?
I like to think I'm reasonable in hating Cass, Vlad and Morgana.
to me kassadin is in the same boat of Shaco, not necessarily OP but very overwhelming for most people too lazy to learn to counter/deal with him
Sorry but your previous comments make me think that you're completely unreasonable.
I enjoy change and nerfs to must pick/ban champions what can I say.
I feel like there are a lot of of overtuned AP champs right now as a reaction to the old bruiser heavy meta.
Jazzy Network
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Damn I was hoping those Master Yi changes were real.
kiunchbb
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How do you balance AP mid anyway? The whole point of AP is to do burst damage, since AP always solo, they will be at least 1 or 2 levels ahead. Another advantage AP had is they benefit a lot more from level up, so in early game with no item, AP will win against most people 1 vs 1.
Ahri is kinda OP, if most champion with gap closer chase you down, you can flash, stun, root to escape while their gap closer is in CD. Against Ahri or Akali, they will just keep diving toward you.
Ahri is kinda OP, if most champion with gap closer chase you down, you can flash, stun, root to escape while their gap closer is in CD. Against Ahri or Akali, they will just keep diving toward you.
Fantasy patch notes, Authored by Jenga.
Ahri can't ult through walls though, so if you flash through terrain to escape, the Ahri player will have to burn their own flash to pursue you (assuming they have it). If Ahri burn's her ult and flash to kill you, she has no way to escape anything for a while, and if she's out of position after pursuing you, she can be really easily counter ganked.
kiunchbb
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It can ult through all wall except for the big one, its only a tiny bit shorter than flash range. There are hardly any wall that you can flash over that ahri can't ult over.
Chasing down opponent is always risky, but at least she has the option to chase down to do so if it is relatively safe. Someone like annie can only type in all chat "HP???" to get some comfort.
Ohh yes Ahri ult nerfed. She will definitely be balanced now (and gankable).
Cass got nerfed quite hard though... That +0.4 on her Q is really going to make her hard to play in laning.\
I'm loving the Orianna buff!
And Ahri is OP. Her ult makes her ungankable in lane and a good Ahri who has warded well will never die in laning phase after 6. She pushes the lane, goes to gank another lane and secures kills easily with her mobility and cc. If she gets caught pushing a lane, she ults 3 times and survives.
Almost everytime i've been caught pushing mid as Ahri by 2 people, I get 1 kill and survive the encounter because of her amazing burst.
TL
R, Ahri's main problem was she was ungankable and couldn't be punished by pushing all game.
Cass got nerfed quite hard though... That +0.4 on her Q is really going to make her hard to play in laning.\
I'm loving the Orianna buff!
And Ahri is OP. Her ult makes her ungankable in lane and a good Ahri who has warded well will never die in laning phase after 6. She pushes the lane, goes to gank another lane and secures kills easily with her mobility and cc. If she gets caught pushing a lane, she ults 3 times and survives.
Almost everytime i've been caught pushing mid as Ahri by 2 people, I get 1 kill and survive the encounter because of her amazing burst.
TL
R, Ahri's main problem was she was ungankable and couldn't be punished by pushing all game.She... can... ult through terrain 0_0
I had no idea, I need to go into a custom game when I get home and practice this!
Wasn't the list was confirmed as fake?
I don't like how much 'OP' get thrown around in the LoL community. It's like no one will be happy until every champ is nerfed to point of boring near-uselessness. Coming from a fighting games background where everyone looks at the most lopsided match-ups you can imagine and says 'learn to play! learn the match-up! tough it out!' it's especially disconcerting how the minute something seems good in LoL, people run crying to Riot for nerfs.
Minions OP?
I've taken my share of heavy damage (and deaths?) from minions, man. *glare*
League of Legends is a game that has been tweaked and added to for years. It has a gigantic character roster and a changing item set that augments them. There are lots of champions that fall way out of favor, and there are other champions who just excel without many (or any) weaknesses. The power disparity between the tiers of champions is just huge.
Try jungling Mundo or Fiddlesticks right now versus a Lee Sin or Udyr of the same skill level. You will get stomped. You can learn the champ or improve, but you're still at a disadvantage, and sometimes it's one that can't be overcome. You can't be some big man who comes in and makes Leona top viable, because you will get dumped on by any other top lane duelist. Other times there are simply hard counters. If you think you can learn the Jax versus Kennen match up you're wrong, because there's nothing you can learn that will make that matchup one you can win.
This isn't a fighting game, and if it was 1/5th of the characters would be Sagat, another 1/5th Ryu, and everyone else would be Dan.
I'm not saying terrible match-ups don't exist- and given a significantly lopsided match-up, a battle between two people of roughly equal skill will be decided by the match-up. It's just it seems to me that match-up inequalities 1) exist deliberately as part of the design of the game and 2) unless you're at an extremely high level of play they don't matter nearly as much. I'm sure there are champs that can't counter hardly anyone, and they should be buffed, of course.
Inskipp
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Lol, Wukong and Ziggs untouched.
Good thing those notes are fake. Most of those changes are pretty ridiculous (not just the nerfs)
wut?
Expunge max damage = 150
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100 ap
+ 6 stacks of passive = 6x60 = 360
= 250 + 360 = 610 max damage with 100 AP.
or am I missing something here?
throwawayname
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Riot, leave skarner alone!
slidewinder
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No, you're right.
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