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[CRS]

fiora's ult ad ratio got lowered too

zzzzz

Fine with me. Fuck that ult of hers.

 

[jerd]

Fiora is modern ap yi

 

[Ghost is Bad]

Sustain junglers will probably be super strong and it shouldnt take too long to relearn jungle routes.

 

[Nekofrog]

and then none of it matters as lee sin because king again

 

[Achtius]

MALZ SKIN HAS VOID POROS

day 1

 

[Ghost is Bad]

Lee Sin is a sustain jungler.

 

[Nekofrog]

i meant all the overall changes to the jungle

none of it will matter

cuz lee sin will be #1 baybee

if u dont lee sin u dont win

 

[Mister Negative]

the cho changes are interesting. NB3 was playing him on stream earlier and seemed to be liking him, and now riot essentially buffed his jungling. I'll have to try him.

 

[Ghost is Bad]

Lee Sin will get his ass handed to him by chickens tho.

 

[CRS]

Sustain junglers will probably be super strong and it shouldnt take too long to relearn jungle routes.

Isn't the jungle route now, "Ignore beaks until level 4/5"? Even junglers with forms of sustain have trouble clearing the ENTIRE jungle (because of beaks).

 

[Ghost is Bad]

Golems into lane into taxing 15 minions u mean.

 

[Nekofrog]

you can't lose as a jungler if you just duo top and don't jungle(tm)

IM A GENIUS

 

[Ghost is Bad]

I thought of it first fucker
Dont steal my ideas.

 

[Nekofrog]

yeah

but is your idea trademarked?

NOPE

 

[Fuzzery]

Jungle wolf best again

 

[Ghost is Bad]

yeah

but is your idea trademarked?

NOPE

yes it is

trademarked by gee to the host thats me.

 

[CRS]

It's going to be a lot more risky to gank if you have double buffs since you'll rarely have full health. And by the time you do the full rotation and a half of jungle to get level 4, your first buff will have run out.

Perhaps more level 2 ganks incoming.

 

[Ghost is Bad]

If thats the case then itll be league of j4 for the rest of season 5

 

[bokn]

"MORE CANNON MINIONS Cannon minions now start spawning every two waves at 35 minutes ⇒ 20 minutes
YOU CAN NEVER HAVE TOO MANY Cannon minions now start spawning every wave at 35 minutes"

Holy shit that change was not expected

going to have short games next season

 

[SteveWinwood]

wait wheres the thread

 

[Ghost is Bad]

"MORE CANNON MINIONS Cannon minions now start spawning every two waves at 35 minutes ⇒ 20 minutes
YOU CAN NEVER HAVE TOO MANY Cannon minions now start spawning every wave at 35 minutes"

Holy shit that change was not expected

going to have short games next season

less of those ziggs stall 50 minute snoozefests are always good.

 

[dimb]

wait wheres the thread

You are our only hope.

 

[bokn]

wait wheres the thread

yea srsly

wheres dis thread

dont make me take a bullet

 

[Bacon]

Only people that have smite can buy hunters machete now. One time I played as Lucian after a long streak of playing in the jungle and bought hunters machete by accident. Had those 4 pots in lane tho. No one noticed but it was embarrassing.

 

[Schmattakopf]

I'm so overwhelmed right now with the amount of changes.

And also really sad at the removal of 15% MS for 20 stacks on Sword of the Occult.

I need new ways to get like 700 MS.

 

[Ghost is Bad]

Just stack zephyrs.

 

[Achtius]

snow day mal
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gC1B55-tFGA

 

[dimb]

I'm so overwhelmed right now with the amount of changes.

You have to teach me everything though. Crack those books open.

 

[Schmattakopf]

You have to teach me everything though. Crack those books open.

This legit feels like studying for an exam.

Does anyone know if they're replacing the Spirit of the X items with the new jungle items or are these just all new?

 

[dimb]

This legit feels like studying for an exam.

Does anyone know if they're replacing the Spirit of the X items with the new jungle items or are these just all new?

All of the old jungle items are gone.

 

[Ghost is Bad]

All spirit items are being replaced.

 

[Dreams-Visions]

snow day mal
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gC1B55-tFGA

looks good.

 

[SteveWinwood]

You are our only hope.

oh ill make it

itll be great

 

[Bacon]

Does the patch go live after the server maintenance or tomorrow?

 

[PhillipCostigan]

sorry I got lost in Dragon Age

so many things

all the things in that game

I'll make da thread now

 

[bokn]

oh ill make it

itll be great

will it have oracle in it

 

[Crab Milk Mickey]

The poro for Sejuani's skin looks like an early draft. Very rough model, unlike the majority of Riot's recent work. Also I wish Sejuani got the cop skin (like a robo-pig with sirenes) and Trundle received the Poro skin instead, at least then the icey particles would've made sense.

Probably no more jungle for me, lol. I wasn't great to begin with, I don't want to relearn it haha.

Dragon is gonna be huge now. Udyr and Nunu are going to be THE junglers next season.

Trundle instead of Udyr, I'd say. Shame about the bonus gold income for the counter-jungle item being nerfed to shit, though.

 

[SteveWinwood]

will it have oracle in it

with base hats and new creep models

 

[dimb]

Bear Cavalry continues to be the best Sejuani. I feel okay with my purchasing decisions.

 

[Ghost is Bad]

Idk man traditional sej looks pretty good.

 

[dimb]

Idk man traditional sej looks pretty good.

If you're not planting mines on people it's not good enough.

Blood Moon Elise looks really nice. Too bad the eye(s) on the back don't move. Blood Moon Thresh has weak particle effects, awkward color scheme. Malazhar is still lame even with nice tweaks to old VFX.

 

[CRS]

lol at no Jayce nerfs.

 

[Ghost is Bad]

Jayce isnt that strong lol.

 

[subtles]

lol at no Jayce nerfs.

I thank the heavens everyday.

As a lowly Silver, one day I'll be able to utilize that kit effectively. Don't cripple him until then.

please

 

[Stone Ocean]

Kalista
Kalista, the Spear of Vengeance, will be released with Patch 4.20!

So no waiting like with Azir? Can't wait for her to be disabled with bugs

 

[PhillipCostigan]

Here's your thread

 

[bokn]

oh i was expecting it to celebrate the release of the new map and a new era of leeg with the massive changes and maybe a look at some of the new VUs n champs like kalista cos shes cool and all the skins that are amazing

 

[PhillipCostigan]

oh i was expecting it to celebrate the release of the new map and a new era of leeg with the massive changes and maybe a look at some of the new VUs n champs like kalista cos shes cool and all the skins that are amazing

if you wanna post that stuff in the thread, go for it. I mainly wanted to get the preseason stuff across and highlight the big changes that are actually related to the patch. We probably should have had another thread when the new map release (I did one when it was announced like 4 months ago) but it's too late now really.

Could throw Kalista and the new map in as a reply if you wanted

 

[bokn]

Didnt the new map completely came out yeterday tho

 

[Skux]

One thing that people have overlooked - no more Conservation stacks on jungle items. That's 6.7 GP10 that you no longer get (assuming maximum efficiency).