Support NeoGAF

[Boss Doggie]

Anyone have map mods to play the original campaigns of L4D to L4D2? It'd be interesting to have the new SI in areas like NM4.

 

[syllogism]

Anyone have map mods to play the original campaigns of L4D to L4D2? It'd be interesting to have the new SI in areas like NM4.

There's a way to get them running but it requires some effort and doesn't work very well. Have to probably wait until the SDK is out.

 

[Zeliard]

There's a way to get them running but it requires some effort and doesn't work very well. Have to probably wait until the SDK is out.

I wonder if it'd be particularly tricky to get them running properly with the new AI Director.

 

[syllogism]

I wonder if it'd be particularly tricky to get them running properly with the new AI Director.

Well apparently they already work pretty well (contrary to what I said before, apparently they managed to fix some things) so unlikely. Why would it considering the whole point of the AI director is that you don't have to do any of that stuff but just mostly make the map?

 

[gregor7777]

There's a way to get them running but it requires some effort and doesn't work very well. Have to probably wait until the SDK is out.

Isn't it the same SDK as the first game?

 

[syllogism]

Isn't it the same SDK as the first game?

No, it's a new version of authoring tools and not just an update. Not exactly clear what the difference is but that's what Chet said. Apparently they are/were hoping to get it out today.

 

[NullPointer]

Anyone have map mods to play the original campaigns of L4D to L4D2? It'd be interesting to have the new SI in areas like NM4.

Weren't there rumors, and rumors of rumors that the 360 version of L4D2 might include the original Left 4 Dead maps?

I guess that didn't happen, but anybody know if its even likely that we'd see a DLC pack of the original maps?

 

[gregor7777]

No, it's a new version of authoring tools and not just an update. Not exactly clear what the difference is but that's what Chet said. Apparently they are/were hoping to get it out today.

Oh, no kidding. I seem to remember hearing otherwise, but I can't back that up.

Well, good to here they're releasing it soon.

 

[RocketDarkness]

Red:

At some point this weekend, we've got to try our hand at HR-Expert Realism. Should be delightfully painful.

 

[Shake Appeal]

HR Realism is my favourite gaming experience of the year. It must be the most terrifying thing in the world on Expert. :lol

 

[BlazeHedgehog]

No, it's a new version of authoring tools and not just an update. Not exactly clear what the difference is but that's what Chet said. Apparently they are/were hoping to get it out today.

They talk about it in the commentary, I think. One of the final commentary nodes talks about how before, they needed two separate tools to make content for L4D2 - I'd assume one for generating BSPs (level geometry) and one for generating MDLs (props). For L4D2, they created a new tool that allows them to create both types of content in a single editor.

 

[fistfulofmetal]

HR-realism?

 

[crimsonheadGCN]

HR-realism?

I think he means the level, Hard Rain.

 

[MNC]

HR-realism?

Hard Rain, methinks.

E: Goddamnit!

 

[Sibylus]

HR-realism?

Like tears in rain.

 

[1up]

Do you only get it if you play through all the chapters in one sitting?

I know that I wont get the completed campaign achievement if I don't start from the lobby of the game to the end.

 

[wayward archer]

I know that I wont get the completed campaign achievement if I don't start from the lobby of the game to the end.

I got Dark Carnival Achievement and I joined a game in progress. I joined right before they reached the safehouse on the first level.

It surprised me because I thought that's how it was too based on my L4D experience.

 

[Deleted member 1235]

sorry to skip out earlier ridley, only had steam running without realising and the lady just got home.

Just had a nice game of vs on the mall level with the car. it was VERY even. people playing well together.

Nobody successfully completed a round I think, but everyone got to about 75% couple times.

Are the vs versions shorter than campaign?

 

[Booshka]

Yeah I've only played the game on Expert Realism with some friends, it's really hard, we can't even get past the second chapter of the first campaign. Usually friendly fire problems or random special infected cluster fucks cause us to all die. The levels are all new so it makes it much harder, more fun though as well. Hopefully we can get another guy who is good and patient so we can finish it. It's really fun, but it gets frustrating after about an hour with no progress.

I played a little bit of scavenge, like it, good concept, it's fast and has some potential to be competitive, it's just hard to find a good random game. Going to have to find friends to play it so it's more fun.

 

[SleazyC]

Anyone know if you can play with someone who has the demo with a copy of the full game?

I have a friend who is interested in the game but wants to try it out and I want to play some with him but I can't seem to get the demo downloading. I'm not sure if you can't download a demo once you have the full game but I click on the link in the Store and it won't download.

 

[Fireye]

edit: I'm a dummy, the demo is still up on the store.

Retail won't play with the Demo from what I've read, so you're SOL unless you sign up for another steam ID just to play with him.

 

[masterkajo]

my game switched to english and I cannot get it back to german even if I choose german setting ingame. steam is in german too. any ideas?

 

[feel]

Question to 360 users:

Yesterday I was playing the demo with some friends using the Local Host/p2p option, I was host, and everyone was green, and all my friends were saying it was a completely lagless experience. Is is still like that in final version?? Or did they screw that up too?? (I'm reading that playing in dedicated servers on the 360 version is horrible at the moment, but it was fine in the demo)

 

[Cynar]

Question to 360 users:

Yesterday I was playing the demo with some friends using the Local Host/p2p option, I was host, and everyone was green, and all my friends were saying it was a completely lagless experience. Is is still like that in final version?? Or did they screw that up too?? (I'm reading that playing in dedicated servers on the 360 version is horrible at the moment, but it was fine in the demo)

Dedicated servers were crap in the demo when xbox live put the demo out, it was fine after a few weeks though. If you played off a dvd of the demo a week early it was fine. It'll probably be crap for a few weeks if you plan to use dedicated servers but til then just use local host with your friends and as long as they're not torrenting or downloading porn you should be okay. :lol

 

[Red Scarlet]

Doesn't the description say to get through the sugar mill without "killing" any witches? I was wondering if that meant you could spook them as much as you want.

I'm not positive if we shot the one that got spooked or not. We definitely spooked one then died on the map and got through without the next time and got it.

 

[masterkajo]

Afaik you can sook them and get killed by them as long as you do not kill one.

 

[Red Scarlet]

Oh ok, really not sure if we killed it or not. :lol

Can anyone confirm this for me?

In order to get the beat-this-campaign Achievement, do all of you have to survive? The first time I played Dark Carnival I was the only survivor; then it was two of the AI and no Achievement. I switched it to easy the next time and was extra careful (having the gnome, too :lol) and I finally got it when we all made it.

Was this an example of Achievement glitching or is it normal? I'm inclined to say normal, but I'm not sure.

I've also noticed a couple stats not increasing, like my defib uses I purposely killed Nick twice and Rochelle once to use them and they're still only at 1 use...or do they not count toward the allotment if you incap them yourself?

Friend of mine got 'beat Dead Center' campaign and he came in halfway through map #1.

Can you fight Jimmy Gibbs Jr normally?

 

[Majora]

Am I the only person not having problems with the dedicated servers on the 360 version? I wonder if the fact I'm from the UK is affecting it. Just played through some campaigns with 2 other UKers and we all had green bars on the ded servers. The American in our group had a red bar but he played through all 3 campaigns so the lag couldn't have been that bad for him.

 

[darkpaladinmfc]

Scavenge is pretty amazing so far, and I've only played the Dark Carnival Motel.

 

[Deleted member 30609]

this is probably going to be my gotee, unless Spirit Tracks and Assassin's Creed 2 really blow me away. I'm yet to play Demon's Souls and Borderlands as well.

We shall see.

 

[BenjaminBirdie]

this is probably going to be my gotee, unless Spirit Tracks and Assassin's Creed 2 really blow me away. I'm yet to play Demon's Souls and Borderlands as well.

We shall see.

I'm thinking the same. This game is really scratching an itch.

 

[Reno7728]

Wow. The game really has so much more variety and excitement than the first, only played the first 2 campaigns so far but they have been amazing - so much harder and the finales are awesome, especially dark carnival.

Anyone who claims that this is just an expansion deserves to never play a valve game again

Also, does the DLC tab on the overlay mean that it will be paid for DLC, or is it always there?

 

[MrNyarlathotep]

Also, does the DLC tab on the overlay mean that it will be paid for DLC, or is it always there?

Don't think anyone really knows. The preorder baseball bat is listed under it, and theres precedence for games on steam having a DLC tab where free DLC is added (eg The Witcher).

 

[Reno7728]

Don't think anyone really knows. The preorder baseball bat is listed under it, and theres precedence for games on steam having a DLC tab where free DLC is added (eg The Witcher).

Yeah i was thinking, (especially with the furore over MW2PC and the 'expansion pack' claims) that valve wouldn't be 'dumb' enough to charge for anything so early

Spoiler

even if it was the midnight riders

 

[Twig]

I'm sure it's just a more structured way for bigger updates and shit to be listed. I don't expect Valve to start charging us fees for DLC any time soon.

(But who knows, maybe they made a lot of money from 360 L4D1 Crash Course, and now they're gettin' greedy!)

 

[Shoogoo]

If this game isn't in my mailbox tomorrow morning I'll throw myself out the window.

You're all warned.

 

[Teknoman]

Up for more zombie blasting, campaign style tonight. Trying to at least play through each chapter campaign before hitting versus. Also i'd like to give realism and the other co-op modes a shot.

 

[Fireye]

If this game isn't in my mailbox tomorrow morning I'll throw myself out the window.

You're all warned.

Respose 1) Can I have your stuff?

Response 2) Cool! When you come back as a zombie, make sure to kill Rochelle first.

 

[CrookedRain]

I'm pretty sure you get the campaign achievements as long as you're there for the completion of all the levels. In other words, as long as you join before the first level is completed, don't leave the game and you manage to survive on the finale, you'll get the achievement. My game crashed on my first campaign and I didn't get back into the game until about halfway through the first level and I still got the achievement after surviving the finale.

 

[Twig]

make sure to kill Rochelle first.

Son of a beesting!

Y U B HATIN

 

[Red Scarlet]

Up for more zombie blasting, campaign style tonight. Trying to at least play through each chapter campaign before hitting versus. Also i'd like to give realism and the other co-op modes a shot.

Give me a hollar.

 

[sgnhh]

Can someone invite me to the GAF group? Steam ID is sgnhh. For what it's worth, I made it through L4D on Expert, and am looking to kick some ass tonight (seems like Advanced/Realism is popular, might try that off rip).

 

[Fireye]

Son of a beesting!

Y U B HATIN

Oh my god she is sooooooo annoying at times. It takes all of my strength to not take off my headset.

 

[Rubezh]

Just finished the Swamp Fever finale for the first time with a group of randomers. Loved the map design. When the rescue boat came I jumped from the second floor and incapacited myself on the floor :lol Some other guy rescued me but the tank and a bunch of zombies started beating on him and he didn't make it. I managed to make it to the escape boat with around 10HP in a frantic limp.

 

[Deleted member 30609]

I'm thinking the same. This game is really scratching an itch.

yeah, it's weird. it's like this game is doing for me what L4D1 did for others. I finally 'get it' now.

 

[Shawsie64]

Decrypting game files :O cant wait!

 

[Rubezh]

Forgot to ask, but is there a way to tell when the chain gun on the Swamp Fever finale mansion overheats? At first I wasn't sure whether it would overheat or not since I didn't see any meters or indication, then all of a sudden it was out for what seemed like an eternity.

 

[Deleted member 30609]

Decrypting game files :O cant wait!

have fun! I'd play some with you, but I'm going out for an hour or so.

 

[Zzoram]

Forgot to ask, but is there a way to tell when the chain gun on the Swamp Fever finale mansion overheats? At first I wasn't sure whether it would overheat or not since I didn't see any meters or indication, then all of a sudden it was out for what seemed like an eternity.

All the chainguns in L4D1 glowed red when overheating.

 

[Rubezh]

All the chainguns in L4D1 glowed red when overheating.

Yeah that's right, I noticed the miniguns in the original glow red. Maybe I missed it or something in L4D2 but I didn't notice any glow on that mounted gun in the mansion.