Legend of Korra Book 3: Change |OT| SCHEDULEBENDING

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El Pescado said:
I wish there was somewhere where I could get word on an iTunes release. Doesn't this show have any kind of official Twitter account or anything?
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Honestly, I wouldn't expect it. They pulled Book 1-2 off iTunes at the beginning of the season (without an explanation). And have never added Book 3. Something strange happened between Nick and Apple with this property.

I wouldn't say NEVER, in that I wouldn't be surprised if it eventually went back on iTunes. But I don't see it being a main outlet for the remaining digital releases. =/
 
Azula said:
Honestly, I wouldn't expect it. They pulled Book 1-2 off iTunes at the beginning of the season (without an explanation). And have never added Book 3. Something strange happened between Nick and Apple with this property.

I wouldn't say NEVER, in that I wouldn't be surprised if it eventually went back on iTunes. But I don't see it being a main outlet for the remaining digital releases. =/
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Yeah, the strange way it disappeared from iTunes is why I'm so agitated about it. I guess if it's on Hulu+ I'll still be able to watch it easily, but I like purchasing things.
 
RedSwirl said:
Is this because nobody's buying the toys or something? Wasn't that why Young Justice got shit on?
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It would help if there was actually merchandise from the show to buy
But this is more to do with how bad its ratings have been recently which Nick is completely at fault of
Erratic scheduling, lack of advertising etc
 
CreeperBlocks said:
What. The. Fuck.


Since its going digital. I don't have ANY of the platforms to watch it on because I'm from Canada.... I'll find another way to watch this then.
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Its in response to PJ Byrne not attending SD Comic Con panel but it does look pretty bad out of context considering whats being happening in the past few days
 
Well, at least we're getting the rest of Book 3, and it sounds like we'll be getting Book 4. Which is better than the whole thing being canned, at least.

Hamlet said:
It would help if there was actually merchandise from the show to buy
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I don't get why there isn't any merchandise out there. Isn't that how most cartoons/anime make their money these days, through merchandise? Shame, as I'd love to pick something up, be it a Korra figurine or whatever. I'll certainly be getting the game, as Platinum + Korra should be a fantastic match up.
 
Cloud Strife said:

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this shady ass tweet smh

what does that even mean

are they not recording voices at nick anymore


edit o nvm i see
 
Hamlet said:
First five episodes are now up on the Nick site took them long enough
http://www.nick.com/videos/playlist/legend-of-korra-season-two.html?xid=NickTwitter

https://twitter.com/NickelodeonTV/status/492373232067284992
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What took so long? I like supporting streams online since I don't have cable, and was surprised that the episodes were never added for the longest time. First 3 eps are on Hulu, but apparently new eps are only added 21 days after airing. Ugh, one of THOSE contracts :/
 
I don't think this is about personal issues with the creators. I thionk people are taking the tweet to personally

Nick studios approached me and a few friends about pitching show ideas for a new online digital initiative they were planning on debuting late this year(maybe early 2015). What was interesting about the situation was that Nick set specific outlines against "gender targeted and teenage-content" which they clarified as 13 and above. They were aiming right at 7-10.

That is extremely odd. The networks rarely set hard fast rules, but is expected that action shows and female shows are harder to pitch.
A female oriented action show is a true rarity

At the time i didn't think anything of it, but looking at what Nick is doing now, and what I've heard their future slate of shows is, it sounds like Korra no longer fits the demo they want to hit, and they just want to wipe the slate.

The show is probably dead if season 4 isn't already in production.
 
So I guess this means a DVD (let alone a Blu Ray) release is just completely out of the question?

I don't want to subscribe to an online site. And Nick's site is beyond broken.

This is worse than anything Disney or CN has done.

Tron SBT and DC Nation hurt.

But this...this is beyond cold business decisions.

Somebody's spouse got fucked, or was on the receiving end of an ass whooping, and never got over it.
 
Honestly, I'm surprised it took Nick this long to pull the plug. Season 1 did well, but Friday night season 2 was a disaster, and season 3 is doing even worse.

Anyway, sucks.
 
I've watched Korra strictly online through its entire run. I was pretty ticked off and annoyed that we were five episodes into Season 5 and I hadn't watched a single one because they just didn't show up on nick.com. It wasn't until I read this thread today that this was by design, some hilariously misguided attempt at boosting up ratings by making Season 3 a "TV exclusive".

Like, what the fuck. I'm sure there's tons of people like me who only watch the show digitally. I've never even seen the commercials in question advertising this so-called TV exclusivity. Those who weren't in the know of this lame ratings stunt weren't going to magically start turning on their TV, they were simply going to see that the show never showed up online, become frustrated, and never saw the show again.
 
I hope by amazon they mean Prime Instant Video. Would rather not have to pay and I don't want to watch it on the Nick website.

I really hope Nick doesn't cancel the DVD/BD releases. I don't want to be stuck with half a collection ;__;
 
Odoul said:
So I guess this means a DVD (let alone a Blu Ray) release is just completely out of the question?

I don't want to subscribe to an online site. And Nick's site is beyond broken.

This is worse than anything Disney or CN has done.

Tron SBT and DC Nation hurt.

But this...this is beyond cold business decisions.

Somebody's spouse got fucked, or was on the receiving end of an ass whooping, and never got over it.
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???

Korra is still going to be finished, what happened to Young Justice is 10x worse than this.
 
remnant said:
I don't think this is about personal issues with the creators. I thionk people are taking the tweet to personally

Nick studios approached me and a few friends about pitching show ideas for a new online digital initiative they were planning on debuting late this year(maybe early 2015). What was interesting about the situation was that Nick set specific outlines against "gender targeted and teenage-content" which they clarified as 13 and above. They were aiming right at 7-10.

That is extremely odd. The networks rarely set hard fast rules, but is expected that action shows and female shows are harder to pitch.
A female oriented action show is a true rarity

At the time i didn't think anything of it, but looking at what Nick is doing now, and what I've heard their future slate of shows is, it sounds like Korra no longer fits the demo they want to hit, and they just want to wipe the slate.

The show is probably dead if season 4 isn't already in production.
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if true then yikes.

Also no itunes mention looks like whatever deal they had with Apple didn't continue (iirc the season itself didn't appear and books 1 and 2 eventually were pulled).
 
remnant said:
I don't think this is about personal issues with the creators. I thionk people are taking the tweet to personally

Nick studios approached me and a few friends about pitching show ideas for a new online digital initiative they were planning on debuting late this year(maybe early 2015). What was interesting about the situation was that Nick set specific outlines against "gender targeted and teenage-content" which they clarified as 13 and above. They were aiming right at 7-10.

That is extremely odd. The networks rarely set hard fast rules, but is expected that action shows and female shows are harder to pitch.
A female oriented action show is a true rarity

At the time i didn't think anything of it, but looking at what Nick is doing now, and what I've heard their future slate of shows is, it sounds like Korra no longer fits the demo they want to hit, and they just want to wipe the slate.

The show is probably dead if season 4 isn't already in production.
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That's interesting. I think fan bases are always quick to assume malice. The reality is, most companies don't want their products to fail. However, there are cases where studios and the creators clash, and things get personal (or where a new CEO comes in, and just doesn't like a product). Even in cases like this, it's rare for a company to willingly sabotage something (because at the end of the day, money is money). But it can happen.

I still think it was just pure incompetence and people running the company with their head up their ass. You see this far too often, where someone comes in and takes over, and they really have no business running it. They have a business degree or an impressive background, but they don't know jack shit about the entertainment industry, or the company they are running. Companies can also get tunnel vision and obsess over the wrong things.

My only issue with how Korra was handled, was their failure to try to course correct. To even ATTEMPT to course correct. It almost becomes unbelievable the insane steps they took to make this show struggle, and then their refusal to try to fix it (and in some cases, doubling down on what wasn't working).

If what you say is true, it's possible that while someone at the top didn't want this to fail, they also have a different vision for where the company is going. And so they allowed the show to fail (because it wasn't really hitting the upcoming demographics they wanted to hit anyways). So this would be a case where they let it die on purpose (by inaction).
 
Azula said:
That's interesting. I think fan bases are always quick to assume malice. The reality is, most companies don't want their products to fail. However, there are cases where studios and the creators clash, and things get personal (or where a new CEO comes in, and just doesn't like a product). Even in cases like this, it's rare for a company to willingly sabotage something (because at the end of the day, money is money). But it can happen.

I still think it was just pure incompetence and people running the company with their head up their ass. You see this far too often, where someone comes in and takes over, and they really have no business running it. They have a business degree or an impressive background, but they don't know jack shit about the entertainment industry, or the company they are running. Companies can also get tunnel vision and obsess over the wrong things.

My only issue with how Korra was handled, was their failure to try to course correct. To even ATTEMPT to course correct. It almost becomes unbelievable the insane steps they took to make this show struggle, and then their refusal to try to fix it (and in some cases, doubling down on what wasn't working).

If what you say is true, it's possible that while someone at the top didn't want this to fail, they also have a different vision for where the company is going. And so they allowed the show to fail (because it wasn't really hitting the upcoming demographics they wanted to hit anyways). So this would be a case where they let it die on purpose (by inaction).
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That doesn't make me feel better at all.

:(
 
Kinvara said:
That doesn't make me feel better at all.

:(
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There is no way to feel good about any of this. I actually feel really shitty about this. Ruined my week. :(

I mean flaws aside, I really like spending time in the Avatar world. Book 3 was incredible so far. All this fuckin sucks.
 
Azula said:
That's interesting. I think fan bases are always quick to assume malice. The reality is, most companies don't want their products to fail. However, there are cases where studios and the creators clash, and things get personal (or where a new CEO comes in, and just doesn't like a product). Even in cases like this, it's rare for a company to willingly sabotage something (because at the end of the day, money is money). But it can happen.

I still think it was just pure incompetence and people running the company with their head up their ass. You see this far too often, where someone comes in and takes over, and they really have no business running it. They have a business degree or an impressive background, but they don't know jack shit about the entertainment industry, or the company they are running. Companies can also get tunnel vision and obsess over the wrong things.

My only issue with how Korra was handled, was their failure to try to course correct. To even ATTEMPT to course correct. It almost becomes unbelievable the insane steps they took to make this show struggle, and then their refusal to try to fix it (and in some cases, doubling down on what wasn't working).

If what you say is true, it's possible that while someone at the top didn't want this to fail, they also have a different vision for where the company is going. And so they allowed the show to fail (because it wasn't really hitting the upcoming demographics they wanted to hit anyways). So this would be a case where they let it die on purpose (by inaction).
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I wish I could beleive that, but then I remember how Paul Dini said they cancelled Young Justice because it had to many fans that were girls. I think there is some kind of sickness that only affects CEO's of american animation studios or something.

I don't think they want their shows to fail, but they come up with the most asinine reasons to fail them.
 
Azula said:
That's interesting. I think fan bases are always quick to assume malice. The reality is, most companies don't want their products to fail. However, there are cases where studios and the creators clash, and things get personal (or where a new CEO comes in, and just doesn't like a product). Even in cases like this, it's rare for a company to willingly sabotage something (because at the end of the day, money is money). But it can happen.

I still think it was just pure incompetence and people running the company with their head up their ass. You see this far too often, where someone comes in and takes over, and they really have no business running it. They have a business degree or an impressive background, but they don't know jack shit about the entertainment industry, or the company they are running. Companies can also get tunnel vision and obsess over the wrong things.

My only issue with how Korra was handled, was their failure to try to course correct. To even ATTEMPT to course correct. It almost becomes unbelievable the insane steps they took to make this show struggle, and then their refusal to try to fix it (and in some cases, doubling down on what wasn't working).

If what you say is true, it's possible that while someone at the top didn't want this to fail, they also have a different vision for where the company is going. And so they allowed the show to fail (because it wasn't really hitting the upcoming demographics they wanted to hit anyways). So this would be a case where they let it die on purpose (by inaction).
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I've never worked production for either of the bigger animation networks(nor really want to) but the stories I've heard about Nick are pretty awful. CN has been going through a revamp lately, which is plain to see but Nick is almost more of a licensing house than animation studio these days. Outside of Spongebob and a few other shows they don't really make shit. Korra was this weird outlier

What a lot of people don't understand is that most stuff being done and pushed is because one guy champions the shit out of it. It's not so much rating and merchandise. It's who has the higher execs ear. Who made the best pitches. Who was lucky.

I can only guess that Korra lost priority after the first season and less people championed the show. Add onto that the show is insanely expensive. It's was going to be cancelled sooner or later.

I'm just surprised it's ending this way. Most shows on the chopping block are pumped for cash before they are sent to die. Marathons, one last push, etc etc..this is bizarre..
 
The Silver said:
Korra is still going to be finished, what happened to Young Justice is 10x worse than this.
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Yep. Came back from reruns with two episodes, then yanked so quickly that cable DVRs still showed that the DC Nation was airing, then it didn't show up again for like three months
 
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