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Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker HD |OT| Tingling with HD excitement...only 398 Rupees
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Kevin Shields
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Amen, I played twilight princess before this and those wolf sections in beginning of game were atrocious. And half the time I couldn't even freaking see my tv it was so dark. I've heard lots of bad things about triforce hunt in WW but I find it hard to believe it will be worse then the wolf sections in TP.
Jaded Alyx
Member
What if you aim with the Gamepad?
I can do that, I suppose. I think I just need to get used to it.
Refreshment.01
Member
XD
My apologies in advance for these OT posts:
Yes, the only sword movement that makes a difference in combat is an stab from a slice in whichever direction. But im talking about this for inmersion purposes. Swinging the remote from left to right for a slice instead of wagling wihile pressing right on the stick feels better.
What gamepad benefit? Inventory management was fantastic in the Wii version. For item slots plus the quick weel.
No qualms with the introductory sequence from my part, if you check my post out, i did recognise the "3 Days" are deeply very ingrained with the plot. I was just thinking of alternate way as an option for revisiting players in a sort of like "Hero mode" at the game's start. Since you are a TP veteran, you wouldn't miss much to have the 3 days summed up in a cinematic sequence. For a new player the introduction could still be there.
What i have a big problem with is the bug collecting
You were playing those games with the Kinect?
Nintendo should have remapped the Wind Waker HD controls in a different way, using one of the shoulder/trigger buttons as a dedicated item button. It works better that way.
NO.
A remake like this for WW would do MM justice. Not being on the damn 3DS. Fuck even a OOT remake on the Wii U would sell truckloads,
I agree.
I'd say get rid of the cat & fishing crap. Goat herding is okay as it's basically the horse combat tutorial, but perhaps reduce the number of goats that need herding. Halve the amount of light/bug tears needed. Also whilst WWHD can get away without a pure orchestral score, this game needs it as some of the sound samples and audio quality is weak. (Other fixes such as super fast text speed and cutting the rupee cut-scenes).
I'll just throw in a vote for a remake of all the Zelda 3D games starting from OOT as a collection release, WW included as well as Skyward Sword. That kind of compilation would kick some serious ass. The Legend of Zelda anthology, including a special edition that includes the original LttP HD remake, as well as the new 3DS LttP-type game for Wii U. Charge $90 for the Special Edition, and $60 for the regular and watch the pockets at Nintendo fill up.
You're dreaming if you think they will remake an N64 game in HD. The whole thing would have to be redone from scratch basically, while MM3D could use the existing engine and many of the same assets from OoT3D. MM HD doesn't make any sense.
MM3D is pretty much inevitable. Grezzo's probably already working on it.
popsicle_sundays
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I've had this downloaded since 7PM yesterday and have yet to even launch it. Firewall upgrades always produce problems, I've been working since 9PM last night.
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Save me GAF!! Tell me the game sucks
They pretty much made this new WW from scratch, didn't they? They didn't just upscale the res and fix up a few textures and a bit of AA. The same could be done with MM if enough effort went into it. Considering it's the best 3D Zelda so far, or at least most unique. 3D on 3DS is really a pure gimmick and nothing else, haven't seen a game yet that uses it in a novel and unprecedented way.
My thoughts are Nintendo needs to abandon the handheld market. But I'd have to make a long thread explaining in detail why it would be a good move. Otherwise their stretching themselves too thin and sacrificing great games for one platform for another. Which in a way makes zero sense...any game on 3DS should be fully compatible with Wii U, right? Their the same exact idea, just one has HD and one has 3D (which is optional). So why not make ALL 3DS games cross-platform and expand the Wii U library by a order of magnitude? This is really the only way to subvert the issues that plague Wii U not getting the new Luigi's Mansion or 2D Zelda, Nintendo if executed correctly could be making a lot more money this way. And selling a lot more Wii U's.
Another OoT version? Really though, what you're proposing isn't feasible and not even necessary. The groundwork for MM3D is in place already. A console version would require everything to be rebuilt completely from scratch. At that point it's a huge waste of time that could go into a brand new game whereas a 3DS version would be relatively easy and quick to do while yielding many benefits already.
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A MM remake on 3DS is the most likely of the two. So many assets for OOT 3D have already been redone and/or translated to the 3DS, Grezzo has already gotten a relatively sizable amount of the work done.
No, this wasn't remade from scratch.
It's an HD remaster with a few bells and whistles.
Oh, I heard A LOT was remade significantly specifically for this game, but whatever. My points about the 3DS and Wii U still stand.
Read my post above.
Read post above.
just got this along with the wii u, download took a bit long but started the game. the last time I played wind waker was probably 8 years ago, I never beat it, didn't even get half way through when I played it back then. Now I'm playing it again and I can't remember anything lol but wow it's a bit jarring to how fast wind waker starts up compared to TP and skyward sword :I also toon link is too slow
Not going into this. You have terrible ideas.
Yeah, yeah whatever man. Doubt you could go into this.
PS3 does cross-platform and it works fine (on two different handhelds no less), no reason why it couldn't be done on Wii U as well. And as for my initial MM HD complete remake. It COULD be done, if Nintendo cared enough...
JacksUsername
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Finally got the sail, camera, and Tingle bottle. Man, bottles are showing up everywhere now. Set sail for the first time, and had a flood of nostalgia of my college days.
I will say though, the sailing music doesn't seem as powerful as I remember. It's still great, but I think receiving the Zelda orchestra CD with Skyward Sword and listening to that rendition for the last couple of years spoiled me a bit.
I will say though, the sailing music doesn't seem as powerful as I remember. It's still great, but I think receiving the Zelda orchestra CD with Skyward Sword and listening to that rendition for the last couple of years spoiled me a bit.
peanutbutterlatte
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Majora 3D is almost certainly happening. Majora HD never will.
*almost. People give Nintendo so much shit for Twilight Princess and Skyward Sword, but I'd take that level of quality a hundred times over rather than them continue to live in the past.
*almost. People give Nintendo so much shit for Twilight Princess and Skyward Sword, but I'd take that level of quality a hundred times over rather than them continue to live in the past.
So why not make it cross-platform with the Wii U? And just upscale the graphics on it? We can already play Majora's Mask in HD through Dolphin. But it would be cool to have the 3DS version be cross-platform so any owner of the two platforms could enjoy it. Or is it just too hard for Nintendo to do?
Astrogavol
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I use project64 to play MM in HD, not dolphin.
I've had this downloaded since 7PM yesterday and have yet to even launch it. Firewall upgrades always produce problems, I've been working since 9PM last night.
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Nah man. Its fantastic.
!Vyse The Legend
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They could, but why would they? You've given no compelling argument for why Nintendo should make a console and portable version of MM 3D, when the latter will satisfy the fan base just fine.
And no, "Sony does it" isn't a compelling argument.
You just reminded me, for the inevitable VC release of OOT, I hope as an option, they offer the upgraded 3DS version, just in 1080p (same with Starfox 64).
plank
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I miss her...
Do you guys think she really loved link from OoT? I wonder what ever happened to her? Also anyone have that Fan art of her over links dead skeleton and master sword?
Jaded Alyx
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Save yourself the disappointment. You know it won't happen.
Leave building, go back in. Repeat until sail.
It's in the auction house. Just keep going outside/inside to have a different item appear.
The question isn't "why would they", the question is "why not?".
1: It's better for all gamers on Nintendo's platforms.
2. It would likely sell better if a player could simply download the new Luigi's Mansion on Wii U for the price, or if you already own it on one, sync the two. Same with any 3DS game.
3. ALL great games that come to 3DS would be available to Wii U owners through the eShop, and a simple upscale option. Increasing the value of the console (imo) and likely spurring more sales of the console.
4. It wouldn't be too difficult for any competent programmer to emulate 3DS content on the Wii U, since they both share the exact same idea of innovation (dual screens). So it would likely be a cost effective effort.
5. The circle pad sucks, the Wii U controller (with all of it's problems) could actually improve many games from a gameplay perspective. It has everything the 3DS has, and more. So theoretically the Wii U cross-version could have additional features.
There, my own opinion of a compelling argument.
It would be nice and pretty awesome, I agree! But this is Nintendo we're talking about. The only manufacturer with a current next-gen console and the slowest and poorest to navigate OS of the three. That alone should show Nintendo's commitment to cutting edge performance or even perfectly fine execution on their hardware/software characteristics. So far at least....
I know, but I want to believe
(They did a 3D re-release of DKCR, so Dumb & Dumber there's a chance
)This is borderline fan fiction.
Jaded Alyx
Member
Nice thread derail.
I bet I know a lot more programmers than you do. So please, Mr. Guru, tell me why? Especially when you're a Nintendo programmer intimately familiar with both hardware and software characteristics?
I miss her...
*sniff* (╯︵╰,)
The 3DS and Wii U don't have similar hardware. Yes, technically it's possible to port 3DS games to Wii U (you can port anything to anything if you have the time and money), but it's not done with the flip of a switch.
Nintendo 2013.
But I agree, Hero Mode will be pretty fun, I can't wait. Although Hero Mode in Skyward Sword was still relatively easy, since the monsters are dumb as fuck, and the sequences to get through aren't too bad to each save point. At best, I hope the Hero Mode in this game is truly hard.
It still requires an actual porting job unless you have an engine like Capcom's MT Frameworks that makes it relatively easy to port things, while what Nintendo is planning in the future is more in-line with what you are talking about.
Iwata: "What we are saying is that we would like to integrate software development methods, operating systems, and built-in software and software assets for each platform so that we can use them across different machines."
From http://www.gengame.net/2013/02/iwat...integrating-handheld-and-console-development/
equippedwithtowel
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Absolutely, totally different hardware. And I never implied it would happen overnight. But it wouldn't be a complete headache either, not with this being Nintendo's own hardware's and software and knowing exactly what to do. As I said any competent programmer/s (or team of) could take 6-9 months to perfect it, and lay the groundwork for great 3DS games on Wii U cross-platform.
Think of it this way, why not test the waters financially? Why not pick 5 best-selling 3DS games once the emulator is finished and updated to Wii U. Including titles like Luigi's Mansion, Kid Icarus, NSMB2, new 2D Zelda and Donkey Kong Country 3D and see how it goes financially. If it's a success, then there's a brand new feature and revenue stream, if it fails, then at least they tried and probably broke even or even profited. In the end, a great idea and thing for Nintendo gamers. I'm just trying to be a advocate for Nintendo gamers really.
If people can create emulators outside of Nintendo for all their systems, then surely Nintendo could do it for the Wii U and 3DS with enough effort.
Thanks, couldn't find the link. If this cross-platform idea did come to fruition Nintendo would almost surely have a way of porting the games quick and easy. Or at least easy-ish.
TourianTourist
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Where did you hear this? Nintendo released an Iwata Asks about this game, where they admitted that they only had three designers work on the game. They developed a tool that let them port GameCube graphics data to Wii U, they improved the textures and added some various shaders. That's it. The models remained the same and didn't get improved.
The only reason, why Miyamoto greenlighted this game, was because it could be made cheaply by a very small team within a short time. The main team has to work on Zelda U after all.
Something like Majora's Mask HD would be as expansive as a making new game. It would need detailed HD textures and models and would have to be made from scratch. So, don't think that they could have made MMHD instead of TWWHD. Not a chance. It would be more like "MMHD instead of Zelda U".
Don't know why I thought that, but thanks for clearing that up.
And pretty lame of Nintendo, and Miyamotot's "Greenlight". Wind Waker deserved all the support it could get for a port. They need to be focusing on expanding the company-size GREATLY instead of deciding what can be done cheaply and with least amount of effort.
Jaded Alyx
Member
Not even close to fast enough...
Oh wow, pretty graphics, HERO MODE! OH WOW, can't wait, gonna stick my stick in Gannon's head for the 8th time now! And the water dungeon is my favorite. Also love coming into the big Volcano Island range, greatness awaits.
On a side note: Did they improve draw distances? This game could have really used it well.
Jaded Alyx
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There's no more blurriness when you look into the distance....or more than 20 feet.