I think people like to complain but not actually change anything. It's not fear of countless hours, it's just plain laziness.
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I think people like to complain but not actually change anything. It's not fear of countless hours, it's just plain laziness.
I've always thought of trying something like this, but I love long workouts. I'm not sure I'd be satisfied, lol.
If you do it right, you'll be too tired and out of breath to care.
Shorter, higher intensity workouts are more my style. Hell, I drop down and do push-ups at random moments, even at work.
I don't think you can limit that just to gay community; it's men in general. Straight guys are the same - they too have unreastic (or very high) standards for women, since pop culture and porn promote those perfect never-aging women (or men) with lean bodies, good hairstyles, makeups and photoshop touches. Don't tell me that you've never heard a bunch of guys criticizing average girl's look, because she has small boobs, flat ass, slightly bigger tights etc.
And as you said, even in gay community guys have different tastes. Some like ripped guys, some lean or skinny ones, others fat ones.
From my own experience I can say that actually starting to working out is the hardest part. But once you're past that part, when you realize that you don't really have to invest that much time and/or money into it, and that working out can be satisfying (despite burning muscles and sweat all over you), it's quite easy to continue.
I disagree. Sometimes it is lazyness, but it can also be fear of pain, shyness (i.e. "I don't fit among those ripped guys with my flapping arms and flat chest, they will only laugh at me") or fear of failing. That's why I think it's important to have someone or something that will motivate you and help you start working out.
Fimbulvetr
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So, by "despite" do you mean "because"?
CornBurrito
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Is it odd that I don't sweat very much? I ran cross country in Florida during high school in like 85+ degree weather and never ended up drenched in sweat. My skin got clammy and such, but never did I need a towel to dry myself or that kind of crap.
CornBurrito
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I am a short twig. You wouldn't want my body.
I haven't read that thread, but this is my opinion anyway 
Not being in absolutely terrible shape is not hard. Walk whenever possible, don't be unreasonable with your eating habits, etc. That's it. Now, getting an athletic build? That's definitely more complicated and involves drastic lifestyle changes for most people. You don't need extra planning, time or money to NOT eat a muffin, but you do if you want to add a lifting session to your day. You don't need to change clothes to not eat half a pizza, but you need to if you're going to do some cardio and you're bound to get soaked. On top of that, the learning curve makes Virtua Fighter look like Mario Party in comparison Because if you're not in good shape you'll start with terrible performance, obviously sssslllloooowww results, and at first you're going to feel in pain and lacking energy which is indeed not very encouraging for beginners.
Are those all excuses? Well, yes. Because at the end of the day it's not impossible, and if you -really- want something then you would be doing everything you can to achieve it.
Not being in absolutely terrible shape is not hard. Walk whenever possible, don't be unreasonable with your eating habits, etc. That's it. Now, getting an athletic build? That's definitely more complicated and involves drastic lifestyle changes for most people. You don't need extra planning, time or money to NOT eat a muffin, but you do if you want to add a lifting session to your day. You don't need to change clothes to not eat half a pizza, but you need to if you're going to do some cardio and you're bound to get soaked. On top of that, the learning curve makes Virtua Fighter look like Mario Party in comparison
Because if you're not in good shape you'll start with terrible performance, obviously sssslllloooowww results, and at first you're going to feel in pain and lacking energy which is indeed not very encouraging for beginners.Are those all excuses? Well, yes. Because at the end of the day it's not impossible, and if you -really- want something then you would be doing everything you can to achieve it.
RatskyWatsky
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Errbody's got unrealistic physique standards, tbh.
Except me. All I ask is for the guy to have a normal, average adult sized 10+ inch (flaccid) cock. In my estimates, 80% of the world's population of men meet my requirement, so I don't think it's too much to ask for.
I started working out last year because I felt a new hobby was required (was obsessively comparing myself with everyone else in regards to how much they did). It wasn't until I properly started when I was doing it to feel attractive. I know I shouldn't, maybe start doing for self confidence as well.
Henchmen21
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About 71, so for me it was only warm, but for them it was the hottest day this year
Man did I call it or what.
Is it only me or does xbone sound like a porn site?
Ah you. Always the sensible one.
umop_3pisdn
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Just running or doing ordinary cardio for like 45 minutes to an hour is actually better than HIIT from a general health perspective. HIIT is good for burning fat while preserving muscle mass, but running for about an hour a few times a week isn't going to turn you into an endurance runner or anything in terms of your build, and HIIT doesn't do as much to strengthen the cardiovascular system.
Depends what unrealistic means. But I think one thing that might be unique to the "gay community" is that you're bombarded with ideas of what is attractive in a partner as well as how you should look from the same sources. Whereas straight girls might see a Taylor Lautner type as ideal, straight guys are looking at the ripped Chris Evans and Hugh Jackman body types in Captain America/Wolverine as ideal. Yes, I'm generalizing, but I just mean there's probably a different source of the ideal body for different sexes and orientations.
Maybe I'm visiting the wrong blogs/news sites, but I've never seen twinks lauded as the optimum body type. I think there's also an underlying psychological component that affects gay men's idolization and desire to achieve an "uber masculine" body type, as a sort of countermeasure to the perceived inferiority of being gay. I just read an opinion piece the other day talking about the gay overachiever stereotype.
The Best Little Boy in the World - That's Me
I don't necessarily think gay people face more pressure to conform to certain beauty standards, but the pressure is experienced differently.
The skin under his eyebrows freaks me out, it's like really pale or something. His eyes are also really dark and kinda shaped in a peculiar way, so it's kinda odd.
Is pale eyebrow skin the new sharp knees?
The weirdest complaint I've read on GAF about someone's appearance. lol
I'm a bit self-conscious about my skinny-ness and shirtless Rm88 is not a thing that happens a lot, but at the same time, if it really bothered so much then I would have done something about it already To be honest I'm okay with my body right now even if I don't represent ideal male beauty.
To be honest I'm okay with my body right now even if I don't represent ideal male beauty.I said it freaks me out, so it's not a "sharp knee" thing.
Maybe he needs a tan or something.
Charles Foster Kane
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I saw a picture of you. Not fat mate.
Aeriscloud
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The only answer to this is yes.
There is nothing wrong with chubby guys, you can just stop now. Well, I mean to say, unless they don't want to be chubby. Then I guess they should do something about it.
I just had a go around with Brera on the gaming side, you are next Dari.
MyAbsolution
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GayGaf especially does NOT have unrealistic physique standards....
Ya that's sarcasm. I guess im one of the only people who likes average looking folks? Near every guy gif/pic posted here seems to have a 12 pack abs and 5% body fat which is impossible.
Ya that's sarcasm. I guess im one of the only people who likes average looking folks? Near every guy gif/pic posted here seems to have a 12 pack abs and 5% body fat which is impossible.
I also like average looking folks. Getting a bf that low is hard!
Henchmen21
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Porn is the worst for unrealistic body image. Especially when you can't measure up in *ahem* other aspects.
I agree soo much with the porn statement. That's how I felt with it, also when you see people your age with big muscles and hot guys/girls doesn't help.
Yeah Gaygaf you say we gays have unrealistic physique standards yet you only post muscle guys with 5% body, you're part of the problem
I say we start posting pics of guys who have average bodies it's time to see pictures of guys who look like guys we see everyday.
I love average guys as well, Kurt from Glee has an average body and he's the hottest man alive.
I think this should be done.Yeah Gaygaf you say we gays have unrealistic physique standards yet you only post muscle guys with 5% body, you're part of the problem
I say we start posting pics of guys who have average bodies it's time to see pictures of guys who look like guys we see everyday.
I love average guys as well, Kurt from Glee has an average body and he's the hottest man alive.
lol no, that was when I was obese, I looked way fatter back then.
Wait, what are you talking about? I didn't understand your post, sorry. What is a Brera?
Liar. I love average guys too, they tend to be cuter, which is amazing.
I personally do no like thin, muscled, pretty boys in any mix.
CornBurrito
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Am I an oddball in that a guy's hairstyle can be the difference between me being turned on and turned off? Fucking Brad Pitt and his long hair makes him a 0/10 would never bang to me.
No, you're not the only one,the same happens to me. I prefer short hair for my guys
I was just reading the 'Are men starting to have unrealistic physique standards for their bodies?' and wanted to ask gaygaffers a question. Somebody said that the gay community have unrealistic physique standards and expect everyone to be ripped. Do you think this is the case?
To answer my own question I don't think the gay community has an unrealistic physique standard. From what I've seen from the internet and real life the gay community loves the twinks and I wouldn't say a twinks body is an unrealistic physique standard. Me personally I don't really care how 'ripped' somebody is, as long as you have thick thighs and a bubble butt then you're fine in my eyes
My problem with the image of the male body within the gay community is that (under the banner of "diversity") the images you see are quite extreme, and, in a manner, fetishised. You either get really skinny twinks, or super hunky (hairless) underwear models, or big, beefy bears. You don't really get anything that's a bit round, unless you're especially fat. Like I also said in that thread, where's the gay Zach Braff?
As I said in that thread, incidents of annorexia (and so I presume other forms of body dysmorphia) occur at pretty much the same rate among gay men as they do among straight women. That is a big problem.
(I should probably post an exclaimer, in that I'm pretty sure I have some kind of BDD. Anyone know any good online resources for it? Or, alternatively, tips on how to get rid of a stomach?)
CornBurrito
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Shit, for real?
One resource I found says it's even worse for gay men as it is for straight women.
It shouldn't be surprising. Every day you're compounded by images of what you should find attractive, and when that doesn't match what you see in the mirror you can feel pretty shitty about yourself.
I think you'd have to scan the literature for and answer to that yourself. (I'm on my phone now so searching and linking is difficult.)
I think the way I see it is that you're more likely to self-objectify when you're a gay man than when you're a straight man. What a straight man fancies (big breasts, a big ass, or the reverse, and so on) has no relation to what a straight woman fancies in them. But for gay men the criteria they judge others by may very well be the criteria by which others judge them (or, more importantly, which they perceive that others judge them by) and so which they judge themselves.
(That's just me spitballing. In any case, afaik, studies do repeatedly show that body dysmorphia is a bigger problem among gay men than among straight men.)
They're both examples of body dysmorphia, just expressed in different ways.
Aeriscloud
Banned
You don't want to know. It's a scary thing.
Oh, and I wanted to ask you, were you able to get into the Mario Kart 7 community last Thursday?
No, I couldn't. My laptop is dead and I just get here through mobile and quoting that post to see the comunity codes was annoying and oyldn't register the comunities. Could you please send me the codes by pm?
And nothing scares me, you can tell me.
May I ask where I said there was a problem with chubby guys, I'm actually confused lol. My post was about people who want to workout but think it's time consuming I'm not saying everyone needs to workout I love all body types
RatskyWatsky
Hunky Nostradamus
Finally remember squatting is fun it gives you a bubble butt and bubble butts= guys flocking round you
Can you squat using weight plates instead of a barbell?
<+)O Robido O(+>
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You ain't the oldest, rob is
WTF?!?!?!
Probably true.
Son of a......
Yeah you can hold the weight plates behind your head or against your chest. You could even put the weight plates in a backpack then do squats.
I thought you said you had a bubble butt. We bubble butt queens don't have the squat when we already got that junk in the trunk
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