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LGBTQIA Thread |OT5| Can't even drink straight

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Kater

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All this drug talk makes me crave some Opium. Gods, such a weird experience I had on Opium when I tried it years ago for the first and only time.

Isn't it kind of taking advantage having sex with someone who's under the influence of drugs or drunk?
Depends. You can't generalize it.
 

Captcha

Member
Isn't it kind of taking advantage having sex with someone who's under the influence of drugs or drunk?

imo yes, but it can also be kind of a grey area.

Agree. Like 80% of my sexual encounters have been drunken hook ups. Everybody is way prettier at that point and hopefully out of my damn bed by the time I wake up.

The only time I'd avoid is if I was sober and they weren't or they were blacking out.
 

Kevyt

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imo yes, but it can also be kind of a grey area.

Yeah, like if both persons are drunk. Honestly, I grew up being told that gays take advantage of people to have sex with them - "adding something to a person's drink" and how they (we) lust over straight guys. So the idea of weed, drinks and sex with a curious "straight" guy makes me feel uneasy about it. I don't know, it's hard to explain... it is a grey area.
 

Crayons

Banned
Yeah, like if both persons are drunk. Honestly, I grew up being told that gays take advantage of people to have sex with them - "adding something to a person's drink" and how they (we) lust over straight guys. So the idea of weed, drinks and sex with a curious "straight" guy makes me feel uneasy about it. I don't know, it's hard to explain... it is a grey area.
I was more fucked up than him and he was the one suggesting the sexy stuff
 

Dany

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What an absurd generalization. I don't crave straight friend to be in my bed. Nor do I attempt to get them drunk enough so I can have sex with them.

It's like saying every straight male wants every girl friend drunk so he could sleep with her. It's an absurd fear.

The people who add ruffies to people drinks are rapists. They aren't just gay men.
 

Kater

Banned
Yeah, like if both persons are drunk. Honestly, I grew up being told that gays take advantage of people to have sex with them - "adding something to a person's drink" and how they (we) lust over straight guys. So the idea of weed, drinks and sex with a curious "straight" guy makes me feel uneasy about it. I don't know, it's hard to explain... it is a grey area.
I really don't see how Crayons took advantage of him. I mean, his friend talked about his d a lot and he didn't even take him up on that vague "kinda flirting".

And people who generalize it and say that all homosexual people do this are just stuck up little bigots who want to bully minorities in subtle ways.

Sorry for the rant at the end.
 

Captcha

Member
This seems like the height of over thinking things. People generally don't do shit while drunk that they don't want to do in some capacity while sober. It's just lowered inhibitions. Don't scare him away from getting that dick (GO FOR IT).
 
Re: Gay for Pay Pornstars

I don't care if they're straight as long as they get into it. Obviously it'll be easier for gay dudes, but some of my fave performers are straight and they do a great job.

I also don't buy the "most gay pornstars are actually straight" deal. A lot of them? Sure. But the majority? Nah.
 

Kevyt

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I really don't see how Crayons took advantage of him. I mean, his friend talked about his d a lot and he didn't even take him up on that vague "kinda flirting".

And people who generalize it and say that all homosexual people do this are just stuck up little bigots who want to bully minorities in subtle ways.

Sorry for the rant at the end.

Woah, I wasn't talking about crayon... just the whole concept of being drunk and having sex... and how homophobes use this against us.

Now imagine your own father telling you this... "watch out from the gays, they'll try to add something to your drink" it makes me as mad as all of you.
 

DOWN

Banned
Sobriety and consent are a far bigger concern among encounters where one person could reasonably have been led by and uncomfortable rejecting the partner. Most common with women where men don't realize that the girl may be uncomfortable having to say for a second time she doesn't want to go all the way, but he assumes wrong as the night goes and tries again. Not everyone is comfortable telling their ride home to stop, or someone bigger than them, or someone who is getting sloppy and agitated.

That's why true consent is officially considered a verbal and sober agreement.

But as stated above, many people do pursue sex in a situation where sobriety is unlikely and many people have a rapport that allows comfort without sobriety. Thus it is hard to generalize.
 

Kater

Banned
Woah, I wasn't talking about crayon... just the whole concept of being drunk and having sex... and how homophobes use this against us.

Now imagine your own father telling you this... "watch out from the gays, they'll try to add something to your drink" it makes me as mad as all of you.
Wasn't directed at you, though I obviously should have said so in my post. So, I apologize if you felt attacked by my post because I forgot to add that it was not you I meant.
 

daripad

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Now imagine your own father telling you this... "watch out from the gays, they'll try to add something to your drink" it makes me as mad as all of you.

My father has told me that many times, it is so disgusting. He even says that they would pay me to have sex with them. What he doesn't know is that his son is gay but would never do those things to a straight guy. 😈
 

Kevyt

Member
Who would be taken advantage of if crayon tried something with his hot friend?

Missed this, but my question isn't about crayons... my question arised from the whole talk of salvia, weed, alcohol, sex, the nature of consent, and homophobic stereotypes.

What an absurd generalization. I don't crave straight friend to be in my bed. Nor do I attempt to get them drunk enough so I can have sex with them.

It's like saying every straight male wants every girl friend drunk so he could sleep with her. It's an absurd fear.

The people who add ruffies to people drinks are rapists. They aren't just gay men.

Preaching to the choir, Danny boy :)

I completely agree. I have said those exact same words to my father, and we always end up having huge arguments about it.


Re: Gay for Pay Pornstars

I don't care if they're straight as long as they get into it. Obviously it'll be easier for gay dudes, but some of my fave performers are straight and they do a great job.

I also don't buy the "most gay pornstars are actually straight" deal. A lot of them? Sure. But the majority? Nah.

It begs the question, what is "straight"? If we look at early sociologists and sexologists, they looked at the actions of a person to determine if said person was gay or a "homosexual." I think it was Kinsey who said we must look at a person's sexual history to be able to fully identify that person's sexuality. In the case of porn stars, they're acting, and its their job. Henceforth, are they gay or straight, or simply gay for pay? Well it doesn't really matter. Some of them know how to do their job :p

Wasn't directed at you, though I obviously should have said so in my post. So, I apologize if you felt attacked by my post because I forgot to add that it was not you I meant.

I didn't feel attacked. But I felt like "ooops" I should have worded my post better. In no way shape or form was my intention to criticize crayon or be condescending or judgmental towards him or his posts. I just wanted to clarify that.

My father has told me that many times, it is so disgusting. He even says that they would pay me to have sex with them. What he doesn't know is that his son is gay but would never do those things to a straight guy. ��

I'm out to my father but he still thinks I'm confused or that it's a phase. He will say those things to make me angry, and get a response from me. I don't understand how he can be so understanding of certain topics yet so close minded about others. Not only that, but he's a homophobe. He has said really nasty things... he thinks we're sexual deviants who just lust every men we see. However, I feel it's just his reaction and to a certain extent, a state of denial. We always argue, lol.
 

DOWN

Banned
My dad asked "is this something you decided recently?" when I came out. I think it came from ignorance
like a few months before I came out when he said the thing about gay marriage means beastiality next
. We have an overall good relationship but dodge the subject of homosexuality or marriage equality intensely.
 

Kater

Banned
My father has told me that many times, it is so disgusting. He even says that they would pay me to have sex with them. What he doesn't know is that his son is gay but would never do those things to a straight guy. 😈
Getting payed to have sex with hot boys? Ka-Ching!

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We have an overall good relationship but dodge the subject of homosexuality or marriage equality intensely.
Yeah, my family and I have a don't ask don't tell understanding of things right now. It fucking blows sometimes, but it keeps our relationship otherwise good.
 

daripad

Member
I'm out to my father but he still thinks I'm confused or that it's a phase. He will say those things to make me angry, and get a response from me. I don't understand how he can be so understanding of certain topics yet so close minded about others. Not only that, but he's a homophobe. He has said really nasty things... he thinks we're sexual deviants who just lust every men we see. However, I feel it's just his reaction and to a certain extent, a state of denial. We always argue, lol.

That's why I don't want to come out to him, he is homophobic and has some preconceived ideas that he will never change.

Getting payed to have sex with hot boys? Ka-Ching!

yJItnOy.gif

I was offered to pay once lol
 

VegiHam

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That's why I don't want to come out to him, he is homophobic and has some preconceived ideas that he will never change.
I'm sure you know your own family and I don't want to give you false hope or whatever but I thought my father would never change and he did after some dramatic stuff in his own life. So like, don't give up hope I guess?
 

DOWN

Banned
I'm sure you know your own family and I don't want to give you false hope or whatever but I thought my father would never change and he did after some dramatic stuff in his own life. So like, don't give up hope I guess?

That's why I don't want to come out to him, he is homophobic and has some preconceived ideas that he will never change.

People's minds will change, so hang in there and see it happen.
 
My dad was a little bad up until a few years before I came out, I think he might have figured out possibilities about me that caused this change. But also he changed careers from factory work to caring work and maybe this changed things. Not generalising to people with these jobs.
 
One of these days I should come out to my family. But I'm kinda waiting until I'm in a relationship with someone. So probably won't happen lol.
 
No clue. But if the "Coming Out on Top" thread is any indication, people love straight jock type characters.
The amount of "I don't really like muscular men" comments followed by the "Brad and Ian (the two most muscular guys) are my favorites!" comments is pretty humorous too.

People are finally seeing the light~
 

Enzon

Member
I'm really grateful for my experience with my family, i actually came out with my mom when i was 8, we used to watch TV all the time and then a gay character came out and i said "mom i'm like him, i like boys and i've always liked them", she looked at me and said "it's too soon, i have no problem with it but i want you to tell me when you're 15" and i did, i was 15, again, watching TV with her and the exact same episode came out, it was a rerun. She looked at me with a smile and i thought that was her way to tell me that she was still fine with it, i said "mom, i still am" and we hugged, that was it, the next day i told my father and sister and they were great too. So, yeah i wanted to share my experience hahaha. Sometimes it's easier than you think guys, i know i was lucky but they may surprise you (my dad totally did surprise me with his reaction)
 

Captcha

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The amount of "I don't really like muscular men" comments followed by the "Brad and Ian (the two most muscular guys) are my favorites!" comments is pretty humorous too.

People are finally seeing the light~

They can stay losing. Muscles are hot as fuck, and yes, I mean even those super balloon looking dudes. They need love too ;_;.

I find a pretty large range of body types attractive though. Just not super young looking guys.
teamdaddies
 

Mr_Zombie

Member
Now imagine your own father telling you this... "watch out from the gays, they'll try to add something to your drink" it makes me as mad as all of you.

Unfortunately, the idea that gays want to rape every men is really popular and is an object of many jokes and insults :/

When an openly gay guy was elected for a president of a city (Słupsk) in recent local elections (which, by the way, is a huge thing - Poland is still a pretty conservative country and no one expected him to win) there were a lot of comments that male citizens of Słupsk should now walk with their asses sticked to walls ("because otherwise they might get raped by the president, duhr"). :|

Why are straight jocks so fucking hot? And why can't I resist befriending them when I know it'd just lead to nowhere? :/

The worst is when they start to act gay-ish for fun (grabbing their asses or nipples, hugging, sweet talking etc.) and you know it is just for play.
 

RatskyWatsky

Hunky Nostradamus
It's really not gonna make a difference to me, as long as his penis is bigger than mine I'm satisfied.

why does it need to be bigger than yours?

Your previous post make more sense now. Very philosophical. You're thinking of a hippy. A hippie is different from a hippy.

whats the diff

He has said really nasty things... he thinks we're sexual deviants who just lust every men we see.

some of us are

My dad actually took it better than my mum. She was the 'you're kidding yourself' one, he wanted to know which dudes I liked :p

cool dad does he still ask you about boyz

The worst is when they start to act gay-ish for fun (grabbing their asses or nipples, hugging, sweet talking etc.) and you know it is just for play.

the best thing you mean

better than rain, cookies, and puppy doges

btw you're the water color artist, right?
 

Captcha

Member
I rode the bull tonight. Well, the Herald did. Hehehe

Fun game :). I romanced Dorian even though I meant to do the Iron Bull. Did you realize that was Freddie Prinze Jr. doing Bull's voice? When I saw the credits I was like, "u wot m8?" Didn't sound much like him to me.
 

Replicant

Member
The worst is when they start to act gay-ish for fun (grabbing their asses or nipples, hugging, sweet talking etc.) and you know it is just for play.

Heh. We don't even have to go that far. The things that they do when they first see you and want to get to know you...Holy crap. On the one hand, it's flattering because they wouldn't even look at you or even do half of the things they do if they don't find you 'interesting'.

But the things they do..... like circling around you like a shark, exercising in front of you with their ass covering your view of the gym mirror, or staring at you a lot makes you wonder if they want to fuck you or just want to friend you. Unforch, 9/10, it's always the later. :/

I did have a few guys who went to grab/slap my cock/ass ("Everyone does it in Sweden!" Lol) or pulled me into a bear hug ("Lemme show you my Rugby tackling moves"). Those were fucking hot and I found myself unable to resist despite my brain going "He is STRAIGHT, have some shame and stop him, this is a public gym/park".
 

Captcha

Member
Heh. We don't even have to go that far. The things that they do when they first see you and want to get to know you...Holy crap. On the one hand, it's flattering because they wouldn't even look at you or even do half of the things they do if they don't find you 'interesting'.

But the things they do..... like circling around you like a shark, exercising in front of you with their ass covering your view of the gym mirror, or staring at you a lot makes you wonder if they want to fuck you or just want to friend you. Unforch, 9/10, it's always the later. :/

I did have a few guys who went to grab/slap my cock/ass ("Everyone does it in Sweden!" Lol) or pulled me into a bear hug ("Lemme show you my Rugby tackling moves"). Those were fucking hot and I found myself unable to resist despite my brain going "He is STRAIGHT, have some shame and stop him, this is a public gym/park".

Where are you making friends? I need to get in on that.
 
Jock personalities are the best, that's practically the entire reason I like them. But maybe not in high school or through most of one's twenties, I think as is the case with everyone, some life experience and growing up some is to their benefit.

I like them because they're like the opposite of me. I'm always stuck in my head and they're usually really unpretentious and tuned in to the world around them. It's refreshing.
 

Crayons

Banned
I also love the jock personality. If a guy ever tries that playful touching or innuendo comments on me I pretend not to care but on the inside they've intoxicated me with thirst
 
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