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Linkin Park may be Reuniting

TheInfamousKira

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How did they get such clear vocals at a live show? Turn up the band! :p

I've seen LP a few times and its weird to see them so stripped down. I always associate them with a pretty techno lightshowy elaborate stage, not like a regular rock band. But now that I've seen Transsiberian Orchestra no amount of led light displays, lasers, or fire can impress me :p
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I'd wager after the initial tour dates they'll probably up the knob on every factor by the time the big touring in 2025 starts.
 
Tokio Blues

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LordOfChaos said:
Chester's son on their choice 💔



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What people do for money is amazing. What a shame for Mike.
 
HAYA8U5A

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They sounded great in the LA show and much better than the launch show but I still say nerves and emotions probably impacted that. Still a few things to iron out but as they get more comfortable it will work itself out. More than anything the guitar player needs to start standing out as the lead guitar player since Brad isn't doing the live shows. His stage presence still feels more like a temporary fill in than they permanent live guitarist.

Great to see some neglected live songs make the set list including some they had never performed live. Would have liked Valentines Day to make the list but understandable they might want to avoid the songs like that which people feel really took on new meaning.

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This guy is unhinged. His Instagram bio implies that Chester did not kill himself and includes "I AM NOT SUICIDAL" as if he expects to be killed next.
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Even crazier than that is that he thinks Mike is the one that had Chester killed off in order to replace him. Hence why in his rant against Emily he started going on about this actually being planned in 2017 in secret meetings between Mike and Emily. He has even come up with things like even if Chester did kill himself it was because Mike's lyrics were done intentionally to put those thoughts in his head and drive him to it.
 
TheInfamousKira

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HAYA8U5A said:
They sounded great in the LA show and much better than the launch show but I still say nerves and emotions probably impacted that. Still a few things to iron out but as they get more comfortable it will work itself out. More than anything the guitar player needs to start standing out as the lead guitar player since Brad isn't doing the live shows. His stage presence still feels more like a temporary fill in than they permanent live guitarist.

Great to see some neglected live songs make the set list including some they had never performed live. Would have liked Valentines Day to make the list but understandable they might want to avoid the songs like that which people feel really took on new meaning.



Even crazier than that is that he thinks Mike is the one that had Chester killed off in order to replace him. Hence why in his rant against Emily he started going on about this actually being planned in 2017 in secret meetings between Mike and Emily. He has even come up with things like even if Chester did kill himself it was because Mike's lyrics were done intentionally to put those thoughts in his head and drive him to it.
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As someone who's listened to Grey Daze and Dead By Sunrise, that last bit is hilarious.

Mike writes in intentionally hammer-over-the-head metaphor, but it's still a metaphor. His lyrics are like "The razor's edge, the vices swell, I'm trapped in a place that I made called hell,"

And Bennington was more "I'M GONNA SLIT MY WRISTS AND DO HEROIN~,"
 
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I've got to disagree she doesn't sound that good to me in that video. Then again maybe I need to listen to some more old live linkin park. She sounds like she is struggling in some of those songs. They probably should have either went with a radically new voice or maybe had 2 singers, one for the hardcore screaming stuff and one for the gentler music.
 
Chuck Berry

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NahaNago said:
I've got to disagree she doesn't sound that good to me in that video. Then again maybe I need to listen to some more old live linkin park. She sounds like she is struggling in some of those songs. They probably should have either went with a radically new voice or maybe had 2 singers, one for the hardcore screaming stuff and one for the gentler music.
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If they simply renamed themselves it would be a million times more bearable and easier to swallow.

Play all new shit with some LP covers thrown in. Done.
 
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Tokio Blues said:
Should had been a man's voice. She is trying too much, it doesn't sound good.
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Disagree. A voice is an instrument like any other. She’s bringing her own take on it, and while comparisons will always be made because Chester is a legend and holds a special place in many of our hearts, her take is great. His voice always had a bit of a feminine quality to it too, few men can match it. She fits nicely.
 
_Idea_of_Evil_

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Thaedolus said:
Disagree. A voice is an instrument like any other. She’s bringing her own take on it, and while comparisons will always be made because Chester is a legend and holds a special place in many of our hearts, her take is great. His voice always had a bit of a feminine quality to it too, few men can match it. She fits nicely.
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Her own take on it (based on the 9/5/24 live performance) sounded like she couldn't decide when she wanted to do Chester-esque growl vocals or fall back onto a generic female rock vocal style. I didn't hear anything unique or particularly impressive about her approach. More than anything, I'm happy for them as a band that they're performing and being creative again if that's what they want to do. I'm not into the new song or singer though so I'm not gonna stay in the loop with what they're doing now.
 
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_Idea_of_Evil_ said:
Her own take on it (based on the 9/5/24 live performance) sounded like she couldn't decide when she wanted to do Chester-esque growl vocals or fall back onto a generic female rock vocal style. I didn't hear anything unique or particularly impressive about her approach. More than anything, I'm happy for them as a band that they're performing and being creative again if that's what they want to do. I'm not into the new song or singer though so I'm not gonna stay in the loop with what they're doing now.
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You’re not wrong, but I can’t knock someone for having to figure out a 25+ year catalogue and having slip ups playing live. If she’s taking care of the vocal cords (there’s a way to scream where you don’t blow out your voice), she should only get better over time and find the groove.

Also if I’m playing drums to some Iron Maiden, I often can’t decide if I’m playing a real tight version of a song like Clive’s style or playing a real flamboyant version like Nicko’s, or some combo of the two. So I can understand inconsistency, and don’t necessarily think it’s bad…but it can be bad if it’s like, back and forth a lot in the same song.
 
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TheInfamousKira

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She just needs time to settle in. Better with each performance:

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There's probably something to be said about confidence when performing songs that she was in the studio for the conception of. I can only imagine the disconnect of being a fan of a band or album, getting into the industry yourself, losing that icon, then finding yourself performing with that band and responsible for conveying all the emotion and quirks of a set that's been fine tuned for the better part of three decades.

She's nailed The Emptiness Machine every time I've seen it performed, and she's slowly finding her own pocket in the old catalogue. Obvious life long fan here, so I'm biased/super informed, but it passed my standard.
 
Mr Reasonable

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TheInfamousKira said:
There's probably something to be said about confidence when performing songs that she was in the studio for the conception of. I can only imagine the disconnect of being a fan of a band or album, getting into the industry yourself, losing that icon, then finding yourself performing with that band and responsible for conveying all the emotion and quirks of a set that's been fine tuned for the better part of three decades.

She's nailed The Emptiness Machine every time I've seen it performed, and she's slowly finding her own pocket in the old catalogue. Obvious life long fan here, so I'm biased/super informed, but it passed my standard.
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I also think she did a good enough job from the outset.

But I also think that she's in a weird position in that band, Mike Shinoda is up front with her taking vocals and is a focal point half the time. Gotta be tough to work out how to present and perform the songs if you haven't been in that position but add that you're performing in the round, nobody knows you, everyone associates what you're singing with a mourned band member.

Quite a lot to balance.
 
Mr Reasonable

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I'm fascinated by Joe Hahn's role on stage. This might sound a bit negative, but I don't mean it to be, I just want to understand.

I am practically certain that aside from the occasional record scratch, he does nothing onstage, but effectively mime a performance. If anyone knows different, I'd love to know.

This is what I think the live show is in terms of the parts that are attributed to him. I know he does solos and so on, but I'm talking about in actual songs where the whole band are playing together.

LP definitely play to a click track (band listen to a metronome that they play to so everyone is in time with everything), they have to because they use samples and if the band are going too fast/slow it won't work, nothing will be in sync with the samples. You COULD keep adjusting the tempo during the performance, but I'm confident that isn't happening.

I think the samples are programmed to play automatically, because even if the tempo is entirely correct, if you trigger a sample too late then for the duration of that sample it will be out of time, in the case of something like "Faint" entire verses would sound terrible and there's no way to correct it. So he's not doing that, it's too high risk.

I guess he could be doing a tiny bit of percussion on his midi pads. But other than a bit of record scratching, I don't think he's doing anything.

What goes against that is that if I were him, I'd definitely learn to play piano and play the keyboard parts that Mike Shinoda plays, it'd make loads of sense for that to happen. Shinoda is a front man has a handheld mic when he can. So, maybe Hahn is busy doing something else? But what that might be, I can't work out. I googled it and apparently he posts to the bands social media during performances.

So, is he doing anything? Does anyone know? It'd be a miserable way to make a living. Standing onstage with 5 other musicians all playing instruments while you pretend to.
 
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RagnarokIV

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Mr Reasonable said:
I'm fascinated by Joe Hahn's role on stage. This might sound a bit negative, but I don't mean it to be, I just want to understand.

I am practically certain that aside from the occasional record scratch, he does nothing onstage, but effectively mime a performance. If anyone knows different, I'd love to know.

This is what I think the live show is in terms of the parts that are attributed to him. I know he does solos and so on, but I'm talking about in actual songs where the whole band are playing together.

LP definitely play to a click track (band listen to a metronome that they play to so everyone is in time with everything), they have to because they use samples and if the band are going too fast/slow it won't work, nothing will be in sync with the samples. You COULD keep adjusting the tempo during the performance, but I'm confident that isn't happening.

I think the samples are programmed to play automatically, because even if the tempo is entirely correct, if you trigger a sample too late then for the duration of that sample it will be out of time, in the case of something like "Faint" entire verses would sound terrible and there's no way to correct it. So he's not doing that, it's too high risk.

I guess he could be doing a tiny bit of percussion on his midi pads. But other than a bit of record scratching, I don't think he's doing anything.

What goes against that is that if I were him, I'd definitely learn to play piano and play the keyboard parts that Mike Shinoda plays, it'd make loads of sense for that to happen. Shinoda is a front man has a handheld mic when he can. So, maybe Hahn is busy doing something else? But what that might be, I can't work out. I googled it and apparently he posts to the bands social media during performances.

So, is he doing anything? Does anyone know? It'd be a miserable way to make a living. Standing onstage with 5 other musicians all playing instruments while you pretend to.
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I’m pretty sure he does nothing.

Everything is to a click and based on that. There’ll be the lights, instrument patch changes, vocal effects pretty much everything automated via MIDI to the click.
 
SirKicksalot

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"What does Mr. Hahn actually do?" reminded me of the classic Depeche Mode joke - Dave sings, Martin does the music, third guy cashes the checks...
Hahn plays the samples on stage and takes over some of Mike's MIDI work. He also used to have his own little DJ-goes-nuts section.
 
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What Hahn does is going to vary wildly by what song they’re playing- but I really doubt he’s out there miming. You can hear variations in their performances the same way two Daft Punk concerts don’t sound exactly the same:



There are fake DJs out there but I don’t think he’s one of them.
 
TheInfamousKira

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Mr Reasonable said:
I'm fascinated by Joe Hahn's role on stage. This might sound a bit negative, but I don't mean it to be, I just want to understand.

I am practically certain that aside from the occasional record scratch, he does nothing onstage, but effectively mime a performance. If anyone knows different, I'd love to know.

This is what I think the live show is in terms of the parts that are attributed to him. I know he does solos and so on, but I'm talking about in actual songs where the whole band are playing together.

LP definitely play to a click track (band listen to a metronome that they play to so everyone is in time with everything), they have to because they use samples and if the band are going too fast/slow it won't work, nothing will be in sync with the samples. You COULD keep adjusting the tempo during the performance, but I'm confident that isn't happening.

I think the samples are programmed to play automatically, because even if the tempo is entirely correct, if you trigger a sample too late then for the duration of that sample it will be out of time, in the case of something like "Faint" entire verses would sound terrible and there's no way to correct it. So he's not doing that, it's too high risk.

I guess he could be doing a tiny bit of percussion on his midi pads. But other than a bit of record scratching, I don't think he's doing anything.

What goes against that is that if I were him, I'd definitely learn to play piano and play the keyboard parts that Mike Shinoda plays, it'd make loads of sense for that to happen. Shinoda is a front man has a handheld mic when he can. So, maybe Hahn is busy doing something else? But what that might be, I can't work out. I googled it and apparently he posts to the bands social media during performances.

So, is he doing anything? Does anyone know? It'd be a miserable way to make a living. Standing onstage with 5 other musicians all playing instruments while you pretend to.
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You can clearly hear on songs like With You and Points of Authority that there's live scratching - it even sounds different from the studio recording. Past That, there's arranging the samples, making sure the right vinyls are in place, and the synth pads for Numb/Crawling/etc. You can definitely tell the latter is performed live because he'll often screw up portions. For good examples of proof of live performances, check out The Catalyst from the Year Zero livestream - Joe gets out of timing with the song on the intro scratches. Another example is Battle Symphony from the memorial concert - Joe fucked the intro so hard that they actually restarted the song.
 
Slothbeing1209

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Kurotri said:
New song just dropped:

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That's pretty good world song. That scream is crazy.
For LoL world songs ranking I think "Rise" is still the best.
For animation, League of Legend never failed when doing music video.
I know this is thread about Linkin Park It feels like so much of the screentime is dedicated to showing Linkin Park. Feels like its more a music video for them than it does for LoL worlds. They did Faker and T1 dirty lmao.
 
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Chuck Berry

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I think the new song sucks. This whole thing reminds of Metallica post St Anger. Like they're trying too hard. Like they're just putting riffs out there that they feel and think their audience wants to hear rather than stuff that they think is good enough to put on an album.

Also this drip feed of tracks before release is I think one of the worst things to happen to modern music. By the time of release you've most likely heard nearly half the album already. Totally kills surprises let alone a big chunk of anticipation.
 
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TheInfamousKira

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Chuck Berry said:
I think the new song sucks. This whole thing reminds of Metallica post St Anger. Like they're trying too hard. Like they're just putting riffs out there that they feel and think their audience wants to hear rather than stuff that they think is good enough to put on an album.

Also this drip feed of tracks before release is I think one of the worst things to happen to modern music. By the time of release you've most likely heard nearly half the album already. Totally kills surprises let alone a big chunk of anticipation.
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Singles are, by design, the most accessible and radio friendly music on any artist's album, and we're talking about Linkin Park - one of the most popular rock bands of the '00's. They weren't Throbbing Gristle or Burzum or some shit. So you're picking the most mainstream song from a mainstream album created by mainstream artists that you're likely to find.

I respect the opinion, though.

I liked HITC, granted it's short, which is my chief complaint for this album/the band in general.
 
Chuck Berry

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TheInfamousKira said:
Singles are, by design, the most accessible and radio friendly music on any artist's album, and we're talking about Linkin Park - one of the most popular rock bands of the '00's. They weren't Throbbing Gristle or Burzum or some shit. So you're picking the most mainstream song from a mainstream album created by mainstream artists that you're likely to find.
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I thought the same about that first single too.

I feel like this album will entirely be "Hey, remember us? "sounding songs, which I guess is fine considering how long it's been and the fact that everyone has the attention span of a gnat nowadays. Might as well not burst out onto the scene with some entirely fresh, unique sound that might take a few listens to properly digest. You need to pull everyone back in with familiarity, I get it.

Say what you will about One More Light, but at least they were stepping outside of the comfort box and trying something that Im sure they had a feeling wouldn't be accepted by the masses (and it wasn't. Chester tweeted a bunch around its release about how angry and saddened he was by the response from fans. And then he died not long after). It's why Ive enjoyed their catalogue the most from A Thousand Suns onward. Each album felt more and more experimental and evolving while keeping occasional sonic throwbacks in for good measure.

So far this feels like a very safe step backwards, which again, I understand why they'd do it. I just fuckin don't like it lol And I really am not a fan of her, Scientology or whatever bullshit aside.
 
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On a live music Discord, seeing great reviews coming out live of the London show.

They'll be announcing a big festival headline tour soon, as least in Europe. Live Nation handling it so any EU people reading, expect Werchter, Mad Cool, Rock AM Ring. No idea on the US front but imagine the plan is the same. Headline a bunch of festivals in 2025 and then their own shows in 2026, something along those lines.
 
TheInfamousKira

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Chuck Berry said:
Hey Kira TheInfamousKira TheInfamousKira ever heard Dead By Sunrise? Another Chester side

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Loved this little period. I wasn't a Julien-K guy, but I've been known to listen to Orgy, so I was interested in seeing Chester in a vaguely electronic oriented otherwise straight rock band.

I thought a good portion of Out of Ashes (while good) was overproduced to the point of detracting and defanging the songs themselves. Maybe I'm a garage band guy at heart, but I need at least a LITTLE bit of raw or messy qualities in my music. I heard Let Down for the first time when Chester performed it solo for some Music for Relief benefit show or some shit, and it sounded like a proper ballad, not the beep boop programmed drown out the vocals Apple commercial theme it became.

For that reason, I really prefer the leaked collection of demos from that album. Tracks like Give Me Your Name and Into You just fucking breathe when you aren't trying to make them Walmart jingles.
 
Chuck Berry

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TheInfamousKira said:
Loved this little period. I wasn't a Julien-K guy, but I've been known to listen to Orgy, so I was interested in seeing Chester in a vaguely electronic oriented otherwise straight rock band.

I thought a good portion of Out of Ashes (while good) was overproduced to the point of detracting and defanging the songs themselves. Maybe I'm a garage band guy at heart, but I need at least a LITTLE bit of raw or messy qualities in my music. I heard Let Down for the first time when Chester performed it solo for some Music for Relief benefit show or some shit, and it sounded like a proper ballad, not the beep boop programmed drown out the vocals Apple commercial theme it became.

For that reason, I really prefer the leaked collection of demos from that album. Tracks like Give Me Your Name and Into You just fucking breathe when you aren't trying to make them Walmart jingles.
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This was originally a Grey Daze demo. Some rare piece I found during the BearShare early 2000s. I would love to know how it wound up here.



Edit: Was too excited to read the whole post before I posted.
 
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kevboard

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Kurotri said:
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ok... I still think she sounds like complete shit live,
but this song is actually kinda good and she doesn't sound as shit here as she did live. sounds like heavily "adjusted" tho lol. effects galore on her voice
 
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